Hacking can you defrag a WBFS hdd?

[vettacossx]

So just a curiosity but would it hurt or can i defrag my western digital book? will it help keep my drive in check? does it even need to be done? thanks guys...

 

[AllWiidUp]

So just a curiosity but would it hurt or can i defrag my western digital book? will it help keep my drive in check? does it even need to be done? thanks guys...

I'm not sure if someone wrote a defrag yet, but it's relatively simple. It has to be part of libwbfs or one of the tools, windows/linux defrag utils won't work as they don't understand wbfs.

 

[vettacossx]

Thanks!....Ill be patient then thanks for the info

 

[mmik]

Last I heard there was no way, and that's why you don't want to delete any games you've installed. It'll screw up a bunch of your games the next time you install one.

 

[Darkzero51521]

Defrag is a windows thing. Theres no defrag for Mac or Linux. Defrag's are just needed for windows, i highly doubt it'd be needed in WBFS.

 

[mmik]

It's very much needed. If you delete a game, it leaves a space where the game was. If you try to install a game that's bigger than that empty space, it'll overwite some of the next game on the HDD.

 

[jwcgator]

Actually, the problem with deleting games was some incorrect code in the source code for libwbfs. From what I understood, when it deleted a game it deleted the game + 1 byte or block or something, essentially screwing up the game that came after it on the Hard Drive. It's fixed in WBFS Manager 2.2 and USB loader 1.4

 

[raptor5001]

^Yeah that sounds about right, I think.

WBFS doesn't fragment its files, so there is no way to defrag it. What people are speaking of (the free space gaps) would be corrected with a compactor, not a defragger.

 

[jesterscourt]

So forgive me for asking the obvious, but say we formatted the HDD back during 1.1 or so, if have the latest loader is it now safe to remove games?

 

[dodol]

^if you didn't delete any of your games during 1.1->1.3, you don't even need to perform anythings. the problem is with delete function not format function.

 

[ajd4096]

Defrag is a windows thing. Theres no defrag for Mac or Linux. Defrag's are just needed for windows, i highly doubt it'd be needed in WBFS.

Defrag ain't just a windows thang.

ext/ffs based file systems do suffer from defragmentation, just not as much as FAT.
There are defrag tools available, but it is usually faster/safer just to dump/restore.

WBFS does not (currently) fragment files per se, but can end up with fragmented free space if you were to repeatedly add/delete games.

I expect there will be some sort of cleanup tool available sooner or later; I also expect the loader to be modified to use other file-systems.
I am not taking bets as to which happens first.

 

[raptor5001]

Okay, well let's say that defrag is a Windows problem then. Defragging programs for Mac or Linux do exist, but they are near useless, because if you have fragmentation on your HFS+ or ext2/3 drive, it means it's close to being full. Because of the way those filesystems work, they only fragment files when absolutely necessary, which makes the results of defragging them unnoticeable. Defragging ext2/3 or HFS+ could arguably actually hurt performance in several ways. It's best to just let those filesystems do their job, haha. For a quick primer, check out this: http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php...d_defragmenting

 

[antiaverage]

Okay, well let's say that defrag is a Windows problem then. Defragging programs for Mac or Linux do exist, but they are near useless, because if you have fragmentation on your HFS+ or ext2/3 drive, it means it's close to being full. Because of the way those filesystems work, they only fragment files when absolutely necessary, which makes the results of defragging them unnoticeable. Defragging ext2/3 or HFS+ could arguably actually hurt performance in several ways. It's best to just let those filesystems do their job, haha. For a quick primer, check out this: http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php...d_defragmenting

For Mac fragmentation info:
http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/chapter12/hf...gmentation.html