Hacking Can Nintendo ban gateway users?

[osm70]

Have you given them any form of ID whatsoever? If that's the case then I'll have you know that the eShop does hold records of your purchases for fiscal reasons (and in case of such emergencies) but again, those ID variables cannot be used to ban a system.

Why not?

 

[Langin]

Have you given them any form of ID whatsoever? If that's the case then I'll have you know that the eShop does hold records of your purchases for fiscal reasons (and in case of such emergencies) but again, those ID variables cannot be used to ban a system.

Thanks for clearing it up Foxi ;3 We shall see soon enough if Nintendo can ban or not, they've created the 2DS monster so I am not surprised if the can ban people who use Gateway.

They needed my console ID for the transfer btw, both systems.

 

[Foxi4]

Why not?

Because again, the shop key can in fact be changed - it's generated upon your first connection. If you're a pirate, you're unlikely to use the eShop anyways so you'll hardly be bothered if you lose your "original" key.

They needed my console ID for the transfer btw, both systems.

That clears it up then.

Now, don't get me wrong - I don't think that banning in the event of piracy would be a bad thing. To the contrary - if you haven't paid then don't expect to be eligible to use online services. Honestly people, if you pirate, you should stay offline anyways and if Nintendo devises a banning scheme then good for them.

 

[evandixon]

Gateway users currently use an outdated firmware. They could just require a system update to play online, when current updates block it.

 

[Foxi4]

Gateway users currently use an outdated firmware. They could just require a system update to play online, when current updates block it.

Gateway also spoofs the firmware revision, making this check entirely useless unless it's very in-depth, but in that case it could still be patched over just like it was on 3.55 PS3's. Where there's a will there's a way, especially when you happen to have kernel level access.

 

[McHaggis]

Actually there is an account! I lost my first 3DS, and Nintendo could actually remove ALL content and placed it on my new 3DS from a distance. They could remove your eshop content, so why not ban a console?

The bastards didn't do that for me when my first Wii fucked up! Son of a... I'm going to email them and complain right now.

 

[Langin]

The bastards didn't do that for me when my first Wii fucked up! Son of a... I'm going to email them and complain right now.

:o oh maybe Nintendo Netherlands is different? I dunno?

 

[William Bernhard]

Your powers are too strong young one but seriously i hope gateway doesnt work online because i hate seeing perfect pokemon ... but im hoping nintendo cant find any trace of the gateway so they wont ban

Actually it's possible to get perfect IV's/shinies/allwhatyouwantonyourpokemon in a retail cartridge... it's called RNG exploit, it's what is used on the "pro" tiers of pokemon gaming. just saying. but don't confuse my words I'm with you, it's very boring see pokesav/pokegen teams, and the became very obvious when the silly guy doesn't know how play the pokemon they carbon-copied from smogon... but it's incredibly funny see them rage-quitting when you beat their "perfect creations" to the dust

 

[McHaggis]

:o oh maybe Nintendo Netherlands is different? I dunno?

It's all governed by NoE. Maybe it's an improvement that was part of those infrastructure upgrades I was talking about earlier. ;-)

 

[Chaldron]

Actually it's possible to get perfect IV's/shinies/allwhatyouwantonyourpokemon in a retail cartridge... it's called RNG exploit, it's what is used on the "pro" tiers of pokemon gaming. just saying. but don't confuse my words I'm with you, it's very boring see pokesav/pokegen teams, and the became very obvious when the silly guy doesn't know how play the pokemon they carbon-copied from smogon... but it's incredibly funny see them rage-quitting when you beat their "perfect creations" to the dust

Sure, maybe people who really care use RNGs. But mainly. "I could have done the same thing with an RNG exploit" is just an excuse for pokegen'd teams. If the pokemon is legal, there is no problem with it. You can claim you simply got lucky or spent a lot of time.

 

[evandixon]

Gateway also spoofs the firmware revision, making this check entirely useless unless it's very in-depth, but in that case it could still be patched over just like it was on 3.55 PS3's. Where there's a will there's a way, especially when you happen to have kernel level access.

Nintendo could change the server and then require an update through the eshop to access the new ones.

 

[Thirty3Three]

My honest opinion...

Gateway is a no buy... unless you really want to run pirate games...

• No homebrew support
• No online play
• Possibility to get banned
• not compatible with higher firmwares
• no idea if will ever be compatible with higher firmwares
• no gui

Well.. the only positive is that it runs commercial games...


And yes nintendo will ban everyone if they want to... they never did until today, however... if they want to they can.

Fixed.

I don't think they'll be able to ban. Look back at Foxi's post.
They've mentioned they're working on homebrew support. Whether people create homebrew for it, that's a different stort.
They're working on higher firmwares.

 

[Thirty3Three]

Nintendo could change the server and then require an update through the eshop to access the new ones.

But if you want to use gateway, you don't update. There's really no way to block it ;P

 

[dragonblood9999]

Ban them from what?
last time i checked Nintendo did not have a online service like PSN or LIVE.

 

[Thirty3Three]

Ban them from what?
last time i checked Nintendo did not have a online service like PSN or LIVE.

This^

Also they can't ban consoles if you have the WiFi switch turned off...

 

[Yamagushi]

Also they can't ban consoles if you have the WiFi switch turned off...

Why do people keep saying this. It is incredibly stupid.. No shit they can't ban you, but if your wifi switch is off you aren't using online anyway so it makes it a moot point.

 

[Yepi69]

How would nintendo know - gateway does not work online
if you install the gateway exploit and then play a legit game the exploit is gone
next you update off a legit cart to the latest firmware and then go online - i doubt there would be any trace of it left.

Sigh, this is what ticks me off on GBATemp, according to Gateway3DS's website:

- Can you play multiplayer local and mostly online?
Yes, but we advise not to use online features

- Do the game keep internet capacity?
Yes, but we advise not to use online features

 

[Thirty3Three]

Why do people keep saying this. It is incredibly stupid.. No shit they can't ban you, but if your wifi switch is off you aren't using online anyway so it makes it a moot point.

Dude, chill out. Knock it off with the insulting swearing. You're being childish...

Listen,

With most hacked consoles nowadays (ie PS3 - or at least when it was 3.55) you couldn't go online. During later CFW updates, you could. But you'd get banned.

You'd be stupid to want to go online with a hacked system of any kind.


Now stop being rude and stop misinterpreting my words. It's not 'moot' it's good advice.

 

[Ryukouki]

Sigh, this is what ticks me off on GBATemp, according to Gateway3DS's website:

- Can you play multiplayer local and mostly online?
Yes, but we advise not to use online features

- Do the game keep internet capacity?
Yes, but we advise not to use online features

The thing is, when me and Devin did the Gateway reviews and tested online, the online gave us both Nintendo error codes (002-0123) so online does not really work yet. Local multiplayer does though.

 

[Yamagushi]

Dude, chill out. Knock it off with the insulting swearing. You're being childish...

Listen,

With most hacked consoles nowadays (ie PS3 - or at least when it was 3.55) you couldn't go online. During later CFW updates, you could. But you'd get banned.

You'd be stupid to want to go online with a hacked system of any kind.


Now stop being rude and stop misinterpreting my words. It's not 'moot' it's good advice.

No it still is a moot point. If you keep your wifi switch off it doesn't matter if you are banned or not. Thus it is a moot point to make.