Biden steps down, endorses Kamala

[sarkwalvein]

Do you guys think Kamala and Pete would be a winning duo?

I wonder... Pete for President right? I mean, at least I know what are his positions.
I prefer Buttigieg over Harris tbh. I don't think he will go senile soon, not at all.

 

[x65943]

Her dad is mixed race. His dad was white and his mum was Jamaican with Irish ancestry. Her mum is indian. This hardly makes Harris Black - she's as much white as she is black, but she's mostly indian.

I think it's far less straight forward than you are letting on

Her dad's dad who you classed as "white" was multiracial as well

Here is a photo of her dad's dad's mom

https://gw.geneanet.org/marycummins?lang=en&pz=mary+k&nz=cummins&p=christiana+chrishy&n=brown

And her dad's mom was black, although she had an irish name (which btw many black people do)

Here is a photo

and again here are two photos of her father

Like nearly every black person in the US, as well as the Caribbean, there is an element of european DNA - as I said if you randomly test black people in the US, on average there will be 20% european DNA

again it's silly to try to say her dad isn't black, and that makes her not black as well somehow - when her dad identifies as black, is black on both sides of his family - and she would be perceived as black herself especially during civil rights movement times

 

[KingVamp]

Some people want Josh Shapiro.

 

[TraderPatTX]

So the Dems were finally successful at forcing Joe out because his polls are shit. So much for 'muh democracy'.

 

[lerpderp]

So the Dems were finally successful at forcing Joe out because his polls are shit. So much for 'muh democracy'.

its weird your side is suddenly mad that biden dropped out when you've all been bitching for weeks that he should

 

[x65943]

its weird your side is suddenly mad that biden dropped out when you've all been bitching for weeks that he should

well of course they wanted biden to stay in when it seemed he would lose, in the same way democrats wanted trump to stay in in 2016 when they thought he would lose

 

[sarkwalvein]

So the Dems were finally successful at forcing Joe out because his polls are shit. So much for 'muh democracy'.

Well, if that were the case I don't know what is not democratic about doing something based on the polls, in the end the polls are supposed to reflect that what the people wants to be done, i.e. democracy.

 

[TraderPatTX]

its weird your side is suddenly mad that biden dropped out when you've all been bitching for weeks that he should

Maybe it's because we are the ones who respect the voters' will.

The Dems have billionaire donors, lobbyists and super delegates controlling your party. Your primaries and your votes meant nothing.

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Well, if that were the case I don't know what is not democratic about doing something based on the polls, in the end the polls are supposed to reflect that what the people wants to be done, i.e. democracy.

Do you think polls are the same as elections?

 

[sarkwalvein]

Maybe it's because we are the ones who respect the voters' will.

The Dems have billionaire donors, lobbyists and super delegates controlling your party. Your primaries and your votes meant nothing.

What voter was willing to vote for Biden over an alternative less senile candidate?

 

[lerpderp]

Maybe it's because we are the ones who respect the voters' will.

The Dems have billionaire donors, lobbyists and super delegates controlling your party. Your primaries and your votes meant nothing.

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Do you think polls are the same as elections?

it just sounds like you got what you wanted and now you're scared shitless, cope harder bro<3

 

[granville]

Some people want Josh Shapiro.

There's major concern among party leaders that his religion would be a significant liability. Even a Jewish friend at the DNC noted this liability and overall agreed with it (despite liking him personally). And also that he can't win over white moderates in more rural areas that Kamala needs.

Other serious names being floated Andy Beshear (governor of Kentucky) and Roy Cooper (governor of North Carolina). I'm seeing these in the mainstream media, and they are names I heard were internally under strong consideration even back in early July. Either one seems to have a significant chance of being the pick.

Well, if that were the case I don't know what is not democratic about doing something based on the polls, in the end the polls are supposed to reflect that what the people wants to be done, i.e. democracy.

Polls often deviate from actual election results. And the ones asking people whether Biden should stay or go have fluctuated. Sometimes depending on whether people other than Democrats are allowed to participate. There is some very obvious truth in donors exerting their influence to force a candidate out here. I'm not going to twist that reality.

 

[TraderPatTX]

it just sounds like you got what you wanted and now you're scared shitless, cope harder bro<3

I'm not your bro, guy...

 

[x65943]

Gretchen Whitmer would be a good VP, could swing some rust belt voters

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer

 

[lerpderp]

I'm not your bro, guy...

im not your guy bro, why you so scared?

 

[x65943]

Maybe it's because we are the ones who respect the voters' will.

The Dems have billionaire donors, lobbyists and super delegates controlling your party. Your primaries and your votes meant nothing.

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Do you think polls are the same as elections?

Super delegates can't vote in the first round of the convention, a change in 2018 thanks to Sanders

Essentially this removed all power from super delegates

 

[granville]

Gretchen Whitmer would be a good VP, could swing some rust belt voters

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer

She isn't expected to do well in the rust belt at all outside of her own home state (and even then she may not pick up as much support as you'd expect). She has the same sort of liberal bubble that Newsom has and is a dangerous choice for trying to court independents and white moderate Democratic men.

Kamala needs a VP who can help patch out her own weaknesses with getting white and male moderates on her side. Just as she herself was a strategic pick by the Biden campaign to help him with women and minorities.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Super delegates can't vote in the first round of the convention, a change in 2018 thanks to Sanders

Essentially this removed all power from super delegates

Do you think it removed their influence?

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im not your guy bro, why you so scared?

The only thing I'm scared of is our democracy being attacked by the Democrats. They're taking away our right to vote as we speak.

 

[x65943]

Do you think it removed their influence?

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The only thing I'm scared of is our democracy being attacked by the Democrats. They're taking away our right to vote as we speak.

Super delegates are simply senators and congress people - so of course they influence no matter what party and whether they can vote or not

There is never a second vote at the convention tho so it's meaningless

Edit: the last time there was more than one vote at a convention was over 70 years ago

https://www.history.com/news/contested-conventions-presidential-elections

 

[The Catboy]

it just sounds like you got what you wanted and now you're scared shitless, cope harder bro<3

He's never going to stop huffing copium

 

[lerpderp]

Do you think it removed their influence?

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The only thing I'm scared of is our democracy being attacked by the Democrats. They're taking away our right to vote as we speak.

how are they taking away your vote? did you vote for biden in the primary? just sounds like projection bro~