Gaming Best DS RPG(s)?

[Law]

The DS has an incredible lack of quality RPGs. Another reason I still pledge allegiance to the GBA.

The DS has loads of quality RPGs...

They just don't get translated into English, instead we get games like "Horsez 3" and "Bratz".

 

[GeekyGuy]

I've just started Magical Starsign, and whilst it has a small amount of potential, I'm finding it to be incredibly mediocre and am not sure if I can bring myself to invest 30 plus hours into this game.


But in the same respect, if there are no better RPGs I may be tempted to stick with it a little more.

Cheers guys

"Better" is certainly a relative term when you're talking about RPGs, but, personally, I think there are far better games out there for the DS.

Pokemon, of course, is great. Dragon Quest Monsters - Joker was, in my opinion, every bit as great as Diamond / Pearl. Final Fantasy III is absolutely wonderful and highly under-rated. There are also a handful of action / RPGs and RPG hybrids, such as Revenant Wings. Rune Factory is now one of my favorite games of all time; though it's definitely a niche RPG, I think it's amazing, warts and all. And if you can get into some straight dungeon crawling, Tao's Adventure is perhaps the most under-rated game on the DS, RPG or otherwise.

 

[Gene98]

Izuna is a decent roguelike.

Don't care much for the dialogue or story, but actual dungeon crawling is quite nicely animated, along with a somewhat interesting equipment system.

Actually I played Izuna ONLY for a dilogues. Humor was EPIC some times with load of fan-service XD. btw there is second part coming




Mario rpg is ok. Too bad I don't like action games

ff12 is awesome after like... 2/3 of game, when difficutly pumped up GREATELY and chars developed new userfull skills(no more best-skill-spam). but mediocore in first part(too easy+boring).

ff3 is actually really crappy old game but with new visuals.

In other hand ff4 is the second great ff game for me(after ff6) and i'll 100% enjoy it. But only after off. eng. release

FF:CC is somewhat descent action rpg

Contact... It was TOO linear. I mean... Even Diablo had more ways to finish level(island here)

Izuna - as told. Boring game but excelent dialogues.

Custom robot Arena gets boring at the end, because of... SAME DAMN ROBOTS WHOLE GAME. I mean c'mone. What is the meaning of in-game $, if we can get best(for us) weapons/parts after like 15 mins of gameplay. Same about opponents. They use SAME ROBOTS WHOLE GAME TOO. Only diff - they also have that super-powah of R4 pirating. Too bad it's just old-same weapon but in other color and with bigger dmg.

Draglade... It's ok....

Pokemon is great as always (=

DQM:J is good. But I can't find any reason to play this game when i have Pokemon D/P. DQM series is too linear in terms of monster-upgrading and also DQM:J lacks some parts from previous one.

FFTA is one of my all-times favorite. And FFTA2 looks promising.

Heroes of mana looks just like poor version of ff12

 

[Gimmy]

To be honest, I played most of the games you are talking here, and I cannot recommend on any of those, well maybe Luminos Arc (like the dialogs).
When we will se a decent RPG to the DS ):

 

[Tyralyon]

I agree the DS lacks rpgs, but it's got some decent games that has rpg elements. Some mentioned here, but I would like to add the Castlevania games and also Puzzle Quest.

 

[taggart6]

Etrian Odyssey is the best Dungeon crawling RPG out for the DS right now. However, its old school RPG with a strict rule set and sever penalties for dying. It's not for the faint of heart.

 

[Urza]

Pokemon, of course, is great. Dragon Quest Monsters - Joker was, in my opinion, every bit as great as Diamond / Pearl. Final Fantasy III is absolutely wonderful and highly under-rated. There are also a handful of action / RPGs and RPG hybrids, such as Revenant Wings. Rune Factory is now one of my favorite games of all time; though it's definitely a niche RPG, I think it's amazing, warts and all. And if you can get into some straight dungeon crawling, Tao's Adventure is perhaps the most under-rated game on the DS, RPG or otherwise.

You have no idea what a "good" RPG is.

 

[GeekyGuy]

Pokemon, of course, is great. Dragon Quest Monsters - Joker was, in my opinion, every bit as great as Diamond / Pearl. Final Fantasy III is absolutely wonderful and highly under-rated. There are also a handful of action / RPGs and RPG hybrids, such as Revenant Wings. Rune Factory is now one of my favorite games of all time; though it's definitely a niche RPG, I think it's amazing, warts and all. And if you can get into some straight dungeon crawling, Tao's Adventure is perhaps the most under-rated game on the DS, RPG or otherwise.

You have no idea what a "good" RPG is.

Wow, don't hold back anything there...feel free to let the insults fly. Anyway, that's your opinion, as rude as it is.

In any case, I've been playing RPGs well before they made their way into the digital realm. I might not run with the pack, with respect to what's considered "good," but I definitely don't have to justify why I like a particular game. And you know what they say about opinions...

 

[Urza]

but I definitely don't have to justify why I like a particular game.

Then its not worth the effort for you to type them out, as opinions without justification carry little to no value.

 

[Tyralyon]

You have no idea what a "good" RPG is.

Izuna is a decent roguelike.

Don't care much for the dialogue or story, but actual dungeon crawling is quite nicely animated, along with a somewhat interesting equipment system.



POWDER is still better though.
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=1709

Sorry, but had to comment since you attack irpacynot with no apparent reason (other than to start a flamewar?)
You yourself didn't not justify why you think POWDER is a good game, and to say you like an rpg because of nice animation, is quite frankly, ridiculous. That's never a good reason to play a game. Good story on the other hand, is...

(To be honest, I respect that you have that opinion, but you know, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones

)

 

[Kellicros]

Not to cause a fuss or anything but I have to agree with Urza, whiles I respect irpacynot's opinions, I have to disagree with his/her list of good RPG. RPG needs a good plot/story, and all games he listen are seriously lacking in that, they might be fun to play, but they are hardly RPG, in my opinion.

The Pokemon games and DQM are seriously lacking in plots and story, they may only appeal to those who liked Pokemon games, not true RPG players.

FF3 is a NES games in better graphics, older RPG has simple story, but seeing it today, this game is seriously aged and only old-school RPG players/hardcore FF fans will find it likable.

Revenant Wings may have great story and plot but it is more of a strategy game with mix of RPG elements, I love this game though.

Rune Factory on the other hand, is a life/farming-sim with bits of RPG elements, and may only appeal to Harvest Moon fans who wants a less repetitive game. I loved Harvest Moon series, so this is Superb for me, but I hardly consider it a "good" RPG.

 

[GeekyGuy]

Not to cause a fuss or anything but I have to agree with Urza, whiles I respect irpacynot's opinions, I have to disagree with his/her list of good RPG. RPG needs a good plot/story, and all games he [listed] are seriously lacking in that, they might be fun to play, but they are hardly RPG, in my opinion.

Well, thanks for being a little more civil in the way you "discuss" RPGs, but I guess we have different ideas of what an RPG is. When I first started playing D&D in the early `80s, we had to create our own stories -- someone had to be the DM (dungeon master, for those of you too young to remember). Story, though, was never a big part of the adventure -- leveling up and engaging various monsters / gods was. Sure, it was always more entertaining when you had a friend who really had a great ability to articulate their imaginings, but role-playing for most RPGers, back then (and into the early days of video-game RPGs), was always about going through the motions of rolling the dice, engaging new creatures, acquiring new items and equipment, and becoming a demigod.

Yeah, RPGs have changed. When I played Tales of Symphonia for the first time, after taking a hiatus from RPGs, I was blown away by how much story there was. That said, chess and checkers are still good games. You could add story elements to those games, too, but liking classic chess and checkers doesn't necessarily mean you don't have a fundamental grasp on what a "good" game of chess or checkers is. Just look at Club House Games; there's nothing new there, but it's still a very highly rated, very well-regarded DS game.

That's fine that Ursa, or anyone else, for that matter, doesn't agree with my opinion -- and I can tell you why I like those games, but, again, I don't have to justify that to anyone. However, no one has to be an ass about how they disagree with people. Discussion doesn't always mean agreeing with one another, but it also has nothing to do with a pissing contest. That's all I'm saying. I love Pokemon (playing Pearl again right now) and I love DQM-Joker. I make no apologies for that. I think they're great RPGs. Nope, the story for both games is nothing epic, but each game is fun, and that's all I require from a game.

 

[Requisite]

but I definitely don't have to justify why I like a particular game.

Then its not worth the effort for you to type them out, as opinions without justification carry little to no value.

Oh, such a wonderful and kind person you must be in real life to insult someone based on your sole opinion.
Seems you were only hoping for a flame war, hm?

 

[CannonBallZ]

Flame-yo! flame-yo....

Anyways back on topic.....

I hate the grinding in RPGs but I found the following RPGs rather fun and actually completed them.

Phantom Hourglass - How come so little love? I though it was pretty epic

the Tingle RPG - i liked the sense of humor, it really made the game

dragon quest rocket slime - lol pure joy

Contact was pretty different as an RPG...you basically levelled up doing anything.