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  1. smile72
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    She needs to have her license revoked.
    Damn title cut out bullying.
     
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    The teacher should only get her license revoked if they can prove she was either making any comment or didn't stop the comments. As it said in the article, no one is really sure the teacher said...anything, and how could she stop it if she wasn't around at the time? I say they should still investigate, but if no proof comes about then I see no reason why she should have her license revoked, especially if she is truly good at her job (as it says in the article).

    EDIT: Oh wait, she was cleared concerning any statements being made...
     
  3. Chikaku-chan

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    What did I just read..? :blink:
    From what I understood of it.....
    Unreliable source is unreliable..?
    Since its just a wire and the wire really is only audio where is the proof that it was a certain person,
    instead of it being another woman who works in the same facility...

    That is just my little input there.
     
  4. Hyro-Sama

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    Never gonna to happen. Teachers are untouchable in the States. Unless a teacher shoots a kid point blank, they won't ever get fired.
     
  5. Edgedancer

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    Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. I am training to be a primary teacher and it outrages me that people would treat children, regardless of their condition, like this. I hope that everyone gets their teaching license revoked. They are horrible people.
     
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  6. ZAFDeltaForce

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    How about teacher-student relationships? :creep:

    But honestly though, if all that was said is true, I hope those responsible get what they deserve. Picking on a kid is bad, picking on an autistic child is even worse
     
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    Because everyone talks in the same way, and same tone o_o?
    Yeeeah, that's how.
     
  8. Chikaku-chan

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    I personally don't recognise people from there voices... so I wouldn't know,
    Plus if it was that simple, why hasn't it been dealt with if that was enough proof
     
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    Well at work we talk over the radio all the time and it's easy to tell voices apart.
    It probably is that simple, but it's probably also halted by the fact people, and especially the legal system, are completely retarded.
     
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    True.... damn you legal system!!! >.>
     
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    Weird how some people go all "well you can't say for sure who it was from their voice!!!!!!!"

    It's ridiculous, really. A little familiarity goes a long way here. People are just too visually-reliant to really realize how distinctive the human voice is. Hell, if you can recognize one voice actor/actress from one anime/cartoon/video game to another, what more if it's a person you have actually talked to?

    Plus, there are audio equipment capable of tracking down vocal patterns IIRC [not voice per se, but the core of how sound - and thus a person's voice - works].


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    If these people are proven to have done this horrible, horrible thing, I hope they really pay for it.

    I mean, seriously, pick on someone your own mental capacity, for crying out loud!
     
  12. Haloman800

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    If it is as bad as the recording makes it out to be, surely she'll be fired. Our legal system isn't so bad as to let blatant harassment slide by, especially when the victim is an autistic child.
     
  13. Sora de Eclaune

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    That reminds me of the "autistic" girl (everyone said she was autistic, but she didn't act like it) who lived down the street from me in first grade. I vividly remember the time someone tripped me into her and I didn't even get the chance to say sorry before she screamed and ran away.

    I think it was because of that kind of behavior that this group of kids bullied her up until the day she wielded this big huge stick like a madwoman and chased them around the playground screaming something that vaguely sounded like "BULLY ME, YOU WILL NOT". I can't remember if the teachers did anything about that or not, since that group of kids really did deserve it.
     
  14. Gahars

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    That's... that's just horrific.
     
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    Right about the time when the unions took over education.
     
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    Don't hate on the unions.
     
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    Education unions are fucking awful and probably one of the biggest obstacles in real education reform.

    Like I get a union "by teachers, for teachers", and they should exist, but they've become so ungodly powerful in terms of how education is handled that almost nothing happens.

    I think something like out of 55,000 tenured teachers last year, ten were fired. Tenured teachers can be notorious for basically doing whatever the fuck they want, like this, and getting away with it. Because if you go after a teacher's job, if they're unionized, you're kinda fucked. For small offenses like this they can probably walk away without an issue because they've got tenure. It's not even just issues like these. Awful teachers get shoveled around school districts because they can't fire them. So you're stuck with suboptimal teachers getting an ever-increasing paycheck and benefits because they can't get fired. I mean almost every other profession you get fired if you fuck up. Almost every other licensed profession would get their license revoked and job lost by doing things akin to what some tenured teachers do.

    Unions aren't bad, they should be allowed to give workers a say in how they're treated. But often large unions become too powerful, wielding their support and funds as a weapon to enforce change or a lack thereof. It's why education has basically been unchanged for 50 years in this nation, because teachers unions make sure it doesn't happen and makes sure teachers are here to stay.

    So don't hate on unions as a whole, just hate on unions that cripple America.