Homebrew Aureinand or 10.7 battery drain problem?

[Ghost Liberator]

As i read, OP says that his battery is not bad, then it's hardware the one that's having trouble, it could ve that there is a bridge (which is very unlikely) that is leaving the energy move freely in the console even when it's turned off, either way is not AuReiNand fault to drain battery if your system is turned off, and from the start it's a stupid assumption, software only runs when the system is on and it can only take control over the system like that, once turned off, the system is not working anymore so software can't run.

Things you could check:

1.- Use a tester to check your battery on a time basis, check how much the battery should last then see how many volts it has
2.- Check how much time it takes to run out of battery, compare it with your friends 3ds, then with a 3ds from another friend.
3.- Take your system to a technician to detect any possible problem with the circuit.
4.- i'm not following the "??????" motif
5.-??????

 

[Kingofknights]

As i read, OP says that his battery is not bad, then it's hardware the one that's having trouble, it could ve that there is a bridge (which is very unlikely) that is leaving the energy move freely in the console even when it's turned off, either way is not AuReiNand fault to drain battery if your system is turned off, and from the start it's a stupid assumption, software only runs when the system is on and it can only take control over the system like that once turned off, the system is not working anymore so software can't run.

Things you could check:

1.- Use a tester to check your battery on a time basis, check how much the battery should last then see how many volts it has
2.- Check how much time it takes to run out of battery, compare it with your friends 3ds, then with a 3ds from another friend.
3.- Take your system to a technician to detect any possible problem with the circuit.
4.- i'm not following the "??????" motif
5.-??????

Finally, someone said something intelligent. Yea feel stupid now after reading your post. Why did i assump that it's a software problem. But then it could be like the poster above you state that the 3ds sometimes cant be turned off properly. Maybe the 3ds was turned off but the wifi card didnt and kept using some battery, do you think that could happen?

This is what im gonna do when i get home:
Full charge the 3ds, open mh4u, create onl room with password,leave the 3ds then count the time it goes from fullcharge to red.
Full charge again, do the exact same thing but 1 hour each, 5 hours between each test to see if leaving it turned off drain any juice. I'll have the data by tmr evening. Until then
Edit: ??????

 

[survive9]

It is Aureinand. The only way to fix it is to go back to an unmodified 10.7 firmware. Do it quick, or else nintendo will continue stealing your battery life

 

[Ghost Liberator]

EDIT: if you want to check things fast, fully charge your 3ds and have your friend's 3DS fully charged too, remove the batteries and check with a tester, if the tester shows that your batter has less volts than the one from your friend, then say goodbye to some money, the battery is not in a good condition and buying a new one is what you need to do

Do all of these tests, then fully charge your 3ds and check when turned off, write your results, then ask your friend to do the same, 3ds fully charged and check with a tester, of course it could be a pain in the ass to check the battery every one hour with a tester. if that doesn't work, make the same process, but instead of checking with a tester turn the console on and then off ever 1 hour, if your 3ds gets to red BEFORE your friends 3ds could be a bridge. Lastly, swap the batteries and check, if by then YOUR FRIENDS 3DS gets to red before yours then it's a battery problem, and if that's the case APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE WHO TRIED TO HELP YOU

 

[Kingofknights]

Do all of these tests, then fully charge your 3ds and check when turned off, write your results, then ask your friend to do the same, 3ds fully charged and check with a tester, of course it could be a pain in the ass to check the battery every one hour with a tester. if that doesn't work, make the same process, but instead of checking with a tester turn the console on and then off ever 1 hour, if your 3ds gets to red BEFORE your friends 3ds could be a bridge. Lastly, swap the batteries and check, if by then YOUR FRIENDS 3DS gets to red before yours then it's a battery problem, and if that's the case APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE WHO TRIED TO HELP YOU

What do you mean by tester? English is not my native so i dont know of it's some kind of tools or smt.
I cant do all of that cuz my friend live faraway. The only thing i can do is to test if the 3ds drain the battery while turning off.
If it's not the battery then what? Why should i apologize when so far nobody has been "tried" to help rather than just a "your battery is bad no matter what you say and fix it noob". Ofc some poster dont know and just want to be helpful, but those that ignore all my post and just keep forcing their "opinion" on me is worst.
Btw, try to find a bad battery with 5hours mh4u playtime

 

[regnad]

A simple thing you can do if you don't have a tester is just fully charge your 3DS and a friend's, run the battery out in both, compare time, and then switch the batteries and do it again. That should determine pretty conclusively if it's the battery or not.

Edit: yow, OP, be a little nicer! Jeez!

 

[Ghost Liberator]

A simple thing you can do if you don't have a tester is just fully charge your 3DS and a friend's, run the battery out in both, compare time, and then switch the batteries and do it again. That should determine pretty conclusively if it's the battery or not.

i already ninja'd you.

This is a tester

Spoiler

Also, everyone in this thread tried to help you, telling that the battery is bad is the fastest and the typical solution, you will need a tester if you are on your own.

1.- Fully charge your 3DS
2.- Remove the battery, the battery itself should say how much volts it should have
3.- If the tester says that te battery has less volts than the label says, buy a new one
3.- If the tester shows the battery has the same volts as the label says, take it to a technician.
5.-You didn't notice that there was no 4.-
6.-You checked that there was no 4.-
7.- You have the solution, but not her heart

 

[Kingofknights]

A simple thing you can do if you don't have a tester is just fully charge your 3DS and a friend's, run the battery out in both, compare time, and then switch the batteries and do it again. That should determine pretty conclusively if it's the battery or not.

Edit: yow, OP, be a little nicer! Jeez!

I respond to what ghost said, that's all and if you scroll up you can see i reject ppl idea with "reasons". It's not like i do that for the lulz or smt

 

[Ghost Liberator]

I respond to what ghost said, that's all and if you scroll up you can see i reject ppl idea with "reasons". It's not like i do that for the lulz or smt

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but, as ragnand said, yeah try to be nicer, i don't know how people reply where you live, but being too direct sounds rude here!, also, the replies from other tempers were very kind, your way of replying is what sounds rude man

 

[Kingofknights]

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but, as ragnand said, yeah try to be nicer, i don't know how people reply where you live, but being too direct sounds rude here!, also, the replies from other tempers were very kind, your way of replying is what sounds rude man

If it indeed sound rude then i'm sorry. My english is not to the level where i can detect all those things.
I think i only reply rudely to @Crystal the Graceon when she? claim that her boyfriend 3ds's battery is the same as it was 4 years ago...what kind of sorcery is that hence why i said i wont take her seriously anymore. For @Xenosaiga....i ignored him on the 1st page but he appeared again just to said the same thing and for everybody else im pretty sure i ignored every post with battery gone bad suggesting

 

[Quantumcat]

If it indeed sound rude then i'm sorry. My english is not to the level where i can detect all those things.
I think i only reply rudely to @Crystal the Graceon when she? claim that her boyfriend 3ds's battery is the same as it was 4 years ago...what kind of sorcery is that hence why i said i wont take her seriously anymore. For @Xenosaiga....i ignored him on the 1st page but he appeared again just to said the same thing and for everybody else im pretty sure i ignored every post with battery gone bad suggesting

The reason you should apologise if it turns out your battery is bad is EVERYONE said your battery was bad and you laughed at them, and we're dismissive and rude to them. If they turn out to be right you should apologise for being nasty to those trying to help you who were right all along. If you don't apologise I'll start a list of people never to help and yours will be the first name on it. And probably the people here that tried to help you will do the same.

 

[Kingofknights]

The reason you should apologise if it turns out your battery is bad is EVERYONE said your battery was bad and you laughed at them, and we're dismissive and rude to them. If they turn out to be right you should apologise for being nasty to those trying to help you who were right all along. If you don't apologise I'll start a list of people never to help and yours will be the first name on it. And probably the people here that tried to help you will do the same.

If im right? If you read the whole thread then you could see the likely that they r right is small

 

[nl255]

Stop this nonsense about batteries overcharging. They have built in protection for that and the 3ds itself probably has some charge regulating chip that also has overcharge protection. You don't need to use the battery until empty twice and so on. It was important 15-20 years ago when the battery had an "memory effect". Current batteries does not have that! In fact, if you drain the battery too much it could stop accepting charge again and the battery are dead, they have cut out protection so that this doesn't happen, under and overcharge protection and temperature monitoring built in, in the battery or in the enclosure for the battery itself.
You don't need to charge modern batteries before first use and so on. It a remnant left from the time when that was actually a thing but we have moved on since then.

1. You could leave your 3ds plugged in 24/7 without any problems.
2. You do not need to discharge the battery and charge it up again two times, three times, whatever times. Just charge and use as normal..
3. You can start to play with your new electronics right away. You don't need to plug the stuff in and leave it for x hours. That's from the old days, when it mattered. It doesn't matter now!

Actually you do need to do a couple of full discharge/recharge cycles with lithium ion batteries every so often due to the battery's memory. Not the "memory effect" but actual memory (eeprom/flash, usually) that keeps track of the charging data. There is a reason that twrp/cwm for android have a "wipe battery stats" function but unfortunately there is no way I know of to do that on the 3ds.

 

[Ghost Liberator]

If im right? If you read the whole thread then you could see the likely that they r right is small

Actually, the chance that they're wrong is the same chance as they're right my lil' fella, if you haven't check your battery you don't know if it's okay or if it's not.

And things are, the only thing i did was explaining the whole thing and giving a procedure. Also i can tell that the nintendo 3ds battery life, as well as any Li-ion Battery CAN vary, some batteries can stay years discharged and have no sequels, while some can die in the blink of an eye.

@Crystal the Glaceon said her battery still worked the same as when it was brand new , things are Li-ion batteries lifecycle are from 2 to 3 years, but that could be if the use is intensive AND ACTUALLY.... Is not, when a 3ds is in sleepmode, the screens are turned off. and the only things that are still working are the CPU for mantaining StreetPass and SpotPass working, and also the wireless connection light, but the use of battery goes down, which means, the battery cycles which are what matters aren't being used that much so far. 2-3 Years of life means 400-1000 cycles, where cycles mean times going from full battery to 0, so if Crystal charged her console less than 1000 cycles it could work as good as new, but after the 1000 cycles then comes chemical distress.

 

[Halvorsen]

I have a N3DS setup through menuhax + AuReiNand with 10.7 emunand. Twice when I've tried to shutdown the console (using power button and then clicking at the Power Down on the screen) the console didn't turned off properly, staying on, with disabled screens, but using wifi and CPU when I folded the console. When I've arrived at home to charge it, red light blinking.
I dunno if the console actually failed to shutdown properly, or if I've got a really bad timing and made it enter at sleep mode while shutting down, but there it is, sometimes you may think that the console was turned off but it isn't. Now I actually wait for all the leds to turn off with the console unfolded.

EDIT: In case you need to store your console or other Li-Ion battery, first you should charge/discharge the battery to something around 60~70% of it's capacity, then remove the battery, and once at every 6 months, guarantee that the battery is with this charge (probably you'll have to recharge a bit). The battery shouldn't be at it's maximum charge neither next to zero.

That's a fault of emunand, that's all.

 

[Pluupy]

From what I have read, Lithium-ion batteries don't fare well in heat and tend to drain more in warm environments. For all we know, they could be smothering their 3DS when charging which would cause heat to build up. They could live in a warm climate, which as someone who has lived in Dominican Republic can confirm negatively affects batteries.

 

[Kingofknights]

Actually, the chance that they're wrong is the same chance as they're right my lil' fella, if you haven't check your battery you don't know if it's okay or if it's not.

And things are, the only thing i did was explaining the whole thing and giving a procedure. Also i can tell that the nintendo 3ds battery life, as well as any Li-ion Battery CAN vary, some batteries can stay years discharged and have no sequels, while some can die in the blink of an eye.

@Crystal the Glaceon said her battery still worked the same as when it was brand new , things are Li-ion batteries lifecycle are from 2 to 3 years, but that could be if the use is intensive AND ACTUALLY.... Is not, when a 3ds is in sleepmode, the screens are turned off. and the only things that are still working are the CPU for mantaining StreetPass and SpotPass working, and also the wireless connection light, but the use of battery goes down, which means, the battery cycles which are what matters aren't being used that much so far. 2-3 Years of life means 400-1000 cycles, where cycles mean times going from full battery to 0, so if Crystal charged her console less than 1000 cycles it could work as good as new, but after the 1000 cycles then comes chemical distress.

So if im reading this correctly, if i didnt charge and full discharge a battery over 1000 times it will be as good as new like if i first bought it was 100 capacity, after 4 years or less than 1000 cycle it now 99%? (100 is ridiculous). That is what you were saying right?
....... another person i wont take anymore bs from oh and also apple ceo agree with me
http://www.macworld.com/article/1058916/smartphones/iphonebattery.html
It will not die but good as new after 4 years? Srsl, are you guys that desperate to try and defend that claim?

 

[Quantumcat]

So if im reading this correctly, if i didnt charge and full discharge a battery over 1000 times it will be as good as new like if i first bought it was 100 capacity, after 4 years or less than 1000 cycle it now 99%? (100 is ridiculous). That is what you were saying right?
....... another person i wont take anymore bs from oh and also apple ceo agree with me
http://www.macworld.com/article/1058916/smartphones/iphonebattery.html
It will not die but good as new after 4 years? Srsl, are you guys that desperate to try and defend that claim?

Wow, why are you even arguing? People are trying to HELP you. If you're such an expert on batteries then don't ask for help next time. But wait, since you didn't even know how to test it (and hadn't even thought of a simple experiment like leaving both your and your friend's console on sleep side by side or turned off side by side to see which drained faster, then swapping batteries and repeating) then I doubt you are an expert. In which case, you should listen to people who know what they're talking about.

Pride comes before a fall and mate you're so full if it I'm surprised you manage to make it out of bed in the morning without breaking your nose on the floor.

 

[Ghost Liberator]

apple =/= Nintendo. Also when i say "as good as new" i mean the battery will retain it's charge well, after a 1000 cycles chemical distress makes it's appearance, it won't go as 1001 cycles = 99% of performance it starts to decrease considerably, also as said before, temperature can do it's job too, LI-ION batteries tend to fail when overheated, also don't take overheated as "OH SH*T IT'S SO HOT!"

 

[Kingofknights]

Wow, why are you even arguing? People are trying to HELP you. If you're such an expert on batteries then don't ask for help next time. But wait, since you didn't even know how to test it (and hadn't even thought of a simple experiment like leaving both your and your friend's console on sleep side by side or turned off side by side to see which drained faster, then swapping batteries and repeating) then I doubt you are an expert. In which case, you should listen to people who know what they're talking about.

Pride comes before a fall and mate you're so full if it I'm surprised you manage to make it out of bed in the morning without breaking your nose on the floor.

Was about to and doing that take time seriously, also you seem to like his post so you agree with him that battery can be "as good as new" after 4 years? Note that the original poster specificly said her battery is THE SAME TODAY AS IT WAS 4 years ago. Did i mistranslation smt?

apple =/= Nintendo. Also when i say "as good as new" i mean the battery will retain it's charge well, after a 1000 cycles chemical distress makes it's appearance, it won't go as 1001 cycles = 99% of performance it starts to decrease considerably, also as said before, temperature can do it's job too, LI-ION batteries tend to fail when overheated, also don't take overheated as "OH SH*T IT'S SO HOT!"

Then use a better phrase. By 400 cycles her battery should be at around 90% ok you could say that it retain its charge well but battery capacity decrease over time with each cycles not just decrease after it hit a treshold. Your post clearly imply that the battery magically lose capacity after 1000 cycles, so im just pointing that out and it feel like you tried to defend an ridiculous claim and wrap your word around it