Homebrew Aureinand or 10.7 battery drain problem?

[Kingofknights]

Do you think i would spend my time on a large post on my not first language only for drama?! How can internet be that sick?! No, im not a polemicweeb, im here cus i see this thread on the first page and was related to my (paranoia?) so i came here explaining my problem to see if the problem was solved, but now i find that all you guys think its the battery! Batteries dont ruin day-to-day and i want to know what happened thats all. Im to lazy to record all this and still dont care if you believe me or not, i just came here to hear a solution, but instead of that you think its fake! If anyone more have this problem, ill record it or something like that stuff, but until that, im just a "interweeb"

Why did you even get mad? That post didnt even direct at you and you are not a part of it to begin with. Im pretty sure i said "uneducated ppl who dont know naything yet their mouth is so big". See? This is what i mean, i didnt even behave rudely to them and they just "oh you have to appologize to everyone". Like i said point that part out when i was rude. IT'S ALL ON THE FIRST PAGE YET NOONE WAS ABLE TO. After ghost there are 2 more guys and maybe aalots told me im rude, where are they now, i want to know how they came to that conclusion or it's just inferior complex

 

[CoopLink]

Double capacity batteries should obviosly charge longer and get discharged even longer than original 3ds batteries, fully charge the double capacity one and swap them between consoles, if the battery lasts longer in the other console then the original one just got descalibrated and is charging the double capacity half the way and detecting it as a normal battery. For further instructions navigate through pages 3-4 i think my posts are there. Chances are that the battery wasn't at it's full capacity when it was being jailbreaked (?), so it detected the that the quantity of energy left in the battery was actually it's full potential.

Im actually going to do that! i hope its not problem of the battery D: in that case i have the original battery of the Doubled-one for furthermore investigation

 

[Xenosaiga]

OH GOD, MY SIDES, THEY HURT!

"My battery isn't holding a charge but my battery isn't the issue"

"My battery is losing capacity but my battery is working just fine"

"People don't know what they are talking about but I don't even know what's wrong either"

"I'm a condescending asshole that demands people help me but then proceed to tell them how stupid they are because I'm a teacher! No wait, I'm a professor! No wait, I'm fricken batman!"

I truly fear for the state of GBAtemp if this how idiotic people are going to be.

You, 113 messages and only 11 likes...

Me, 956 messages and 486 likes. I must know what I am talking about if so many people agree with what I say.

 

[Ghost Liberator]

OH GOD, MY SIDES, THEY HURT!

You, 113 messages and only 11 likes...

Me, 956 messages and 486 likes. I must know what I am talking about if so many people agree with what I say.

Don't forget me! i have more likes than messages X'D

 

[Xenosaiga]

Don't forget me! i have more likes than messages X'D

Here! Have another. Lmao

 

[Kingofknights]

You guys do know that gbatemp is not even my forums right? I think i only make like 3 topics here so why counting it when im not even care? Gbatemp is like a place i use whenever i see fit. Edit: 11likes is pretty amazing when i didnt do anything

OH GOD, MY SIDES, THEY HURT!

"My battery isn't holding a charge but my battery isn't the issue"

"My battery is losing capacity but my battery is working just fine"

"People don't know what they are talking about but I don't even know what's wrong either"

"I'm a condescending asshole that demands people help me but then proceed to tell them how stupid they are because I'm a teacher! No wait, I'm a professor! No wait, I'm fricken batman!"

I truly fear for the state of GBAtemp if this how idiotic people are going to be.

You, 113 messages and only 11 likes...

Me, 956 messages and 486 likes. I must know what I am talking about if so many people agree with what I say.

Another ignorant, i restate everything on the 1st page saying that i only "feel" it and my test show that it's indeed is worrking. Now address this detective. Is this conspiracy theory where you put stuffs together to make it fit?
Btw, count that make you like some person who spent all their time lurking around here, doesnt really put you into good light isnt it? Rmb, IM A TEACHER (Will be....)

Edit: again everything you quoted have the test results now to completely destroy it. Again prove me wrong when you said i have a teacher complex bc isnt that part came after i have been proven wrong? Im going to the university now, keep the drama going ok? Good

 

[Xenosaiga]

Waaaah waaaaah waaaaah. My feelings are hurt by your condescending better than you attitude. I can't go on with life after being ridiculed by some know it all dipshit that claims his battery isn't working but then wants to tell everybody his battery is working right. Waaaaaaah. I just can't even comprehend your sheer stupidity. Waaaaah.

People like you make me sick. Go back to your "Main forum" and leave your know-it-all shit there.

 

[Alan Treecko]

just get a damn mod to lock this crappy thread.

 

[Kingofknights]

Waaaah waaaaah waaaaah. My feelings are hurt by your condescending better than you attitude. I can't go on with life after being ridiculed by some know it all dipshit that claims his battery isn't working but then wants to tell everybody his battery is working right. Waaaaaaah. I just can't even comprehend your sheer stupidity. Waaaaah.

People like you make me sick. Go back to your "Main forum" and leave your know-it-all shit there.

Instead of whinning pls do your reading and research. I do not claim it, i show it. Period

 

[hyno111]

A week earlier I have noticed more standby battery drain after updating ReiNand 3.6b, so I downgraded back to 3.4 and the problem is gone.
So maybe OP can try using an earlier version of AuReiNand.

 

[Celldweller97]

how would we calibrate the battery?

 

[bowser]

Do you happen to have a hard mod? Maybe something went wrong during the mod that's causing the battery to drain.

Did you try fully charging the battery, and then removing it from the 3DS and leaving it out overnight? That will prove if the battery is bad or if the 3DS is somehow draining it.

 

[Ghost Liberator]

Do you happen to have a hard mod? Maybe something went wrong during the mod that's causing the battery to drain.

THIS

 

[naivegirl2411]

Do you happen to have a hard mod? Maybe something went wrong during the mod that's causing the battery to drain.

Did you try fully charging the battery, and then removing it from the 3DS and leaving it out overnight? That will prove if the battery is bad or if the 3DS is somehow draining it.

Yeah this should be a great way to assess it. I also went a bit paranoid after installing arm9lh and it felt like the battery wasnt lasting as long as when I had my clean 3ds

 

[Kingofknights]

Sr, it's weekday so i cant reply much

A week earlier I have noticed more standby battery drain after updating ReiNand 3.6b, so I downgraded back to 3.4 and the problem is gone.
So maybe OP can try using an earlier version of AuReiNand.

I used Aureinand 4.1, I'll try 4.2 once i have the chance, thanks

Do you happen to have a hard mod? Maybe something went wrong during the mod that's causing the battery to drain.

Did you try fully charging the battery, and then removing it from the 3DS and leaving it out overnight? That will prove if the battery is bad or if the 3DS is somehow draining it.

It's been 2 days since i last opened my 3ds so im doing the test by not doing anything XD. Will try to remove it and no i didnt hard-modded it

 

[Hamstermascot]

Yes it could be leaking but somehow you are the first person to said that. Last night i already read it on battery university. The things is i dont even know if the play time is indeed shorter or just a placebo effect.
Seriously if Crystal suggest the idea of leaking after my reason then i would agree with her wholeheartedly, stfu then do my test to see if it was true but instead it turns to this

Edit: about the leaked. If i have 3 bars of battery and i let it sit for like over 12h and still show 3 bars, does that rule out the leak or i need to let it sit more?

Yes. Still applies to possible leaking. It can show you the wrong number (mostly with mobile phones though). Just leave it in the freezer for like 5 hours taped in a plastic bag so no moist will get into it. After the 5 hours are over just leave it out for 2-3 hours on a towel or piece of paper. Then just put it in your 3ds and charge it. Try it out then and if the issue is still there, you're pretty much out of luck. The last thing you could do it play with the brightness and time everything. Which takes a lot more work.

 

[TheCasketMan]

This might be off topic but retroarch doesn't seem to take advantage of the N3DS CPU boost when using Aureinand. I think it was worth pointing out since it seems to be a bug (I will try posting this on github)

 

[gallymimu]

That sounds like your battery might just be shot. If you leave it on charge too much (like overnight) it can ruin the battery and kill the battery life.

That is not true, you can't overcharge a Lithium Ion battery (Otherwise it would produce gas and explode). All lithium Ion charging circuits shut off when the battery is full. The 3ds internal charging circuitry shuts down when the battery is fully changed.

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Sht is charging my 3ds overnight bad ?

No, LiIon charging circuits in an reputable device will not overcharge a battery.

I've had no ill effects from it. And it's not like it keeps charging once it's fully charged. Unless someone can prove me otherwise I'm gonna keep believing that the system self regulates and stops charging once the system is fully charged.

Correct

Whenever you leave it without use for a long time i read somewhere that you need to charge it fully then drain it completetely and repeat twice(i think) to avoid battery issues.

Not actually the case. 3DS does not have a smart battery that keeps track of such things. It only has a thermistor which is the bare minimum for a prismatic (rectangular) battery cell/pack. Some smart batteries (like managed batteries in a laptop) may have some effect from the procedure you describe though unlikely as most smart battery chips merely track actual performance and charge cycles so there isn't much in them to "trick".

Phones do use more sophisticated measurements to determine battery life so they can become slightly confused but by no means can you ACTUALLY extend the battery life by charging tricks. It merely impacts how the phone predicts the charge level. Normally devices determine charge level by watching battery voltage. LiIon batteries follow a fairly predictable voltage to power ratio curve but of course it's not perfect.

 

[The Catboy]

That is not true, you can't overcharge a Lithium Ion battery (Otherwise it would produce gas and explode). All lithium Ion charging circuits shut off when the battery is full. The 3ds internal charging circuitry shuts down when the battery is fully changed.

Did you just ignore the multiple times I said I wasn't completely right in this thread?
Also yes you can break a lithium-io by leaving it on charge for too long! It just requires leaving them on charge for days to weeks on ends and or shorts/hardware faults. 3 months ago I had to actually remove a Galaxy S5 live display from my store because the battery broke and started swelling. No battery is without fault, I know because I've personally had to replace lithium-io batteries for people, that had broken due to poor treatment.
Just so people would stop quoting me, I edited my post. I made a poor choice in wording.

 

[gallymimu]

Did you just ignore the multiple times I said I wasn't completely right in this thread?
Also yes you can! 3 months ago I had to actually remove a Galaxy S5 live display from my store because the battery broke and started swelling. You can overcharge a Lithium-io battery, it just requires leaving them on charge for days to weeks on ends and or shorts/hardware faults. No battery is without fault, I know because I've personally had to replace lithium-io batteries for people, that had broken due to poor treatment.

No, admittedly I didn't read the whole thread and see your note about not being completely right, in fact update previous posts can help people avoid getting the wrong idea. It would be courteous.

clearly however you are not an engineer and don't know what you are talking about. Especially when you start throwing "well if somethings wrong with the battery of the charger is broken" WELL SURE!! If it's broken and not working right all kinds of things can happen. I too have seen swollen batteries. I never said batteries don't "go bad" It doesn't mean that a normally functioning charger and normally functioning battery will somehow get magically overcharged if you leave it on the charger. That's simply moronic logic I'm sorry to say.

Go learn something about CE mark IEC-60601, and UL standards that prohibit the sale of unsafe consumer products whose designs must be tested by 3rd parties (again this applies to reputable device manfs not random white box stuff from ebay).

It is however the case that a LiIon battery will last LONGEST if kept at around 60-70% charge (this helps preserve total lifetime of the battery and is one of the reasons these batteries are usually shipped about half charged). It's not that significant and there is a tradeoff between life lost due to charge cycles and life lost due to charge level. Generally, keeping the battery near fully charged and minimizing deep discharge and charge cycles will produce the best long term performance.

In all seriousness though. If you want me to teach you how this stuff actually works I can. If you are willing to slog through data sheets for the charge controllers I can show you exactly how/where such overcharging is prohibited by the charge controllers in general (I'm not sure which specific charge controller is present in the 3ds since their ICs are heavily customized in many cases).

Here is a pretty accurate and understandable resource on LiIon battery technology: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/is_lithium_ion_the_ideal_battery

Sorry dude, I don't mean to be gruff. I don't have anything against you. I just get wound up about bad technical advice propagating. Anyway feel free to get back on telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. I certainly don't know everything, but I have decent battery tech street cred.