Hardware Ask Nintendo to sharpen NES VC!!!

[veelk]

Man. This annoys me to no end.
Blurry NES VC. As if that wasn't enough, the colors are faded too.
This would be such an easy fix for them, unlike something like input lag which would be very difficult if not impossible to fix.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/wiiu-vc-vs-vwii-fceugx-emulator.360940/

http://www.reddit.com/r/wiiu/comments/1cmhf6/kirbys_adventure_nes_vc_looks_blurry_and_faded_on/

Here are links that talk about this, however I've provided an image on my own to give a clear example of what this is like.
3DS and Wii U BOTH are affected!!!!!!!!!!!

I wrote to: nintendo -at- noa.nintendo.com and they answered...

But if there's a better place to complain / suggest them to fix this, let me know.

 

[yuyuyup]

They expect you to pay for that crap, I'd pay for it if you must, but then just play the rom

 

[veelk]

They expect you to pay for that crap, I'd pay for it if you must, but then just play the rom

Yup
It's sad. BUT this can be fixed. If it does, it will be perfect HD VC (Wii U) and perfect portable NES VC.

 

[ChrisRX]

I suppose technically the blurriness is more like playing on an original NES instead of an emulator.

 

[Arras]

I suppose technically the blurriness is more like playing on an original NES instead of an emulator.

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if this was done on purpose to look more like a CRT. The GBA VC games that are on the 3DS are also much darker and less colorful than on something like VBA because that was how they looked on the OG GBA.

 

[RevPokemon]

Nintendo will never fix it as they could care less a bout vc

 

[The Real Jdbye]

The "blur" doesn't look bad on 3DS. Just looks antialiased a bit.
Looks awful on Wii U though, it can't possibly be that bad. Need a capture from someone with a Wii U connected to their capture card to verify this.

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if this was done on purpose to look more like a CRT. The GBA VC games that are on the 3DS are also much darker and less colorful than on something like VBA because that was how they looked on the OG GBA.

With GBA games, that's actually a good thing, as many of them were overly bright in order to compensate for that and so they look terrible on emulators.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

People paying with money for Virtual Console, oh boy.

 

[RevPokemon]

Honestly one thing that could help would be to mess around with the sharpness and display settings on your TV.

 

[Fishaman P]

The colors being faded is a simple choice of palette.
The blurriness, especially on the 3DS, is likely from scaling.

 

[the_randomizer]

GBA games actually look a lot better on the Wii U, that's because one, Nintendo hired M2 to write an emulator but two, the games use the color palettes on how they SHOULD have looked. Overly bright colors on most GBA emulators look like crap.

 

[trumpet-205]

As far as VC goes, they don't use fancy scaling algorithm or forced uprendering you see on an emulator.

 

[veelk]

All right. Something everyone needs to understand:
The NES does NOT LOOK BLURRY on the original TV and Console set up. It looked quite sharp actually.
http://mikejmoffitt.com/img/tvrgb/WP_20131211_017.jpg

Look at the mountain outline. This is more or less how sharp it looks like from a REAL CONSOLE to a REAL TV.

Look at the SNK logo
http://rcadegaming.com/images/sony27arcade6.jpg
This is how a real TV looks. Not sure that's from a NES, but it shouldnt be much different at all.

The 3DS Antialising is bad. It distorts images completely. That example in the first post i made is REALLY from a 3DS capture card.
As for the Wii U example, that is not from a capture card cause I did not have one at the time, but I'll find a pic taken from it.

Edit: uploaded a pic of MegaMan (NES) running on Wii U VC captured from the console.
FADED AS HELL COLORS OMG BLURRYNESS

 

[RevPokemon]

Honestly I feel the VC colors and how well they look are simply a thing of personal taste and opinion.

 

[veelk]

Honestly I feel the VC colors and how well they look are simply a thing of personal taste and opinion.

If it was personal taste and opinion, they should have given options then. It's true, some people like blurryness and hate blockyness, but there should be the option, dont you think?

 

[Eurasiam]

- Wii U VC recording

- Original Nes recording

I actually played on both recently and I thought it was my recorder making my video dark. But man...i'm shocked. So much brighter and vibrant on an original NES

 

[veelk]

Wii U VC recording
Original Nes recording

I actually played on both recently and I thought it was my recorder making my video dark. But man...i'm shocked. So much brighter and vibrant on an original NES

You see???? OMG That looks horrible on the Wii U. I understand that the NES didn't exactly have the best quality either, some pixels would mess up, but isnt the Wii U supposed to give us something that is at least the same or better? I wouldnt mind if it was the exact same as the NES. That would be kinda cool actually. Some NES emulators have NTSC filters for that. UGHHHHH I'm so frustrated. Can't we all complain now that we've seen those 2 videos? Thanks for posting btw

 

[trumpet-205]

All right. Something everyone needs to understand:
The NES does NOT LOOK BLURRY on the original TV and Console set up. It looked quite sharp actually.
http://mikejmoffitt.com/img/tvrgb/WP_20131211_017.jpg

That actually depends on one's TV. A standard setup looks horrible on typical HDTV. The picture you showed is one a regular CRT.

 

[Eurasiam]

For context. i used a DVD recorder for the nes recording, and the wii u recording was with a PVR 2, incase that matters much. Its awesome how the nes actually had an output for video and mono audio. I loved playing on an orignal nes and will always love it

 

[Hanafuda]

I just use this AV Famicom and Everdrive N8 on the 36" JVC television I bought in 2001. Looks pretty good.