Homebrew ARM9Loader -- Technical Details and Discussion

[Mrrraou]

In old3ds the risk is very very low and we have aureinand and cake working in old 3DS (and new).

lol!

*(Au)ReiNAND/Cakes.

I know. But if you update in SysNAND using these: you brick or you lose it.
And LCD init is not out yet. Seriously, the brick rate isn't worth it yet.

 

[Shadowtrance]

I know. But if you update in SysNAND using these: you brick or you lose it....

Not entirely true....if you do it right.

 

[Mrrraou]

Not entirely true....if you do it right.

Nope. You could only fix it with a hardmod.
Both payloads aren't patching the FIRM to never update the FIRM0 and FIRM1 partitions.

And updating using CIAs and removing the NATIVE_FIRM one is another process, too.

 

[Nintendo4DSXL]

Not entirely true....if you do it right.

How can we update sysnand correct?

 

[Supster131]

I know. But if you update in SysNAND using these: you brick or you lose it.
And LCD init is not out yet. Seriously, the brick rate isn't worth it yet.

I don't know why'd you want to update your sysNAND at this moment, but you can if you really wanted to. (Although not by normal means.)

Edit: Ninja'd.. Typing on a phone's so slow :c

 

[Shadowtrance]

Nope. You could only fix it with a hardmod.
Both payloads aren't patching the FIRM to never update the FIRM0 and FIRM1 partitions.

And updating using CIAs and removing the NATIVE_FIRM one is another process, too.

True and true. and yeah that works.

 

[Mrrraou]

I don't know why'd you want to update your sysNAND at this moment, but you can if you really wanted to. (Although not by normal means.)

Edit: Ninja'd.. Typing on a phone's so slow :c

And still, it's not worth doing it for most of the users.
A few seconds less to boot into emuNAND is really nothing. And most sysNAND system updates from 9.2 are mistakes. So you would brick/lose it by mistake.

 

[Shadowtrance]

And still, it's not worth doing it for most of the users.

Valid point.
I should just shutup so ppl leave me alone. lol

 

[A_Random_Guy]

Can anyone link me to the Arm9LoaderCakes?

 

[Supster131]

Valid point.
I should just shutup so ppl leave me alone. lol

You still getting spammed by PM's? Lol.

 

[Shadowtrance]

You still getting spammed by PM's? Lol.

Not really now, no. Shhh! Don't jinx it! lol

 

[Sgt. Lulz]

If I understand this correctly, you need ARM11 access to control screen init, but what about other outputs like LEDs and the speaker? Are they also ARM11-exclusive?
I'm not implying that we should make sound-based menus, that would be dumb as hell.

Yes I am.

Not really, that would REALLY be dumb as hell.

 

[Hector_of_Troy]

Any success stories on 2ds without hardmod?

 

[jackb994]

If I understand this correctly, you need ARM11 access to control screen init, but what about other outputs like LEDs and the speaker? Are they also ARM11-exclusive?
I'm not implying that we should make sound-based menus, that would be dumb as hell.

Yes I am.

Not really, that would REALLY be dumb as hell.

It's a must get Morgan Freeman to do the voices

 

[Raugo]

I know. But if you update in SysNAND using these: you brick or you lose it.
And LCD init is not out yet. Seriously, the brick rate isn't worth it yet.

You can still using emunand and with emunand you don't have this problems

 

[Just Passing By]

Any success stories on 2ds without hardmod?

There is one 2ds success story from what I know from R2. I would do it, but I feel like I'm gonna brick.

 

[Sgt. Lulz]

Any success stories on 2ds without hardmod?

This guy right here.
Fair warning, I DID error on my first downgrade and landed myself a nice brick, but that was on emuNAND, so it was fine.
I then followed the first edition of the guide and downgraded sysNAND directly, which I really don't recommend.
The second edition is much better.

There is one 2ds success story from what I know. I would do it, but I feel like I'm gonna brick.

Any luck with the second edition of the OTP guide?

 

[Supster131]

Any success stories on 2ds without hardmod?

My 2DS bricked when trying to update (before Decrypt9 was available for 2.1) but it downgraded and obtained the OTP just fine. So I'd say it's safe enough.

 

[Hector_of_Troy]

There is one 2ds success story from what I know from R2. I would do it, but I feel like I'm gonna brick.

Same, i'm really hesitant because the 2ds never even was on 2.1. At least i should be able to get back to 7.1 with Omega Ruby if i understand correctly

 

[Supster131]

Same, i'm really hesitant because the 2ds never even was on 2.1. At least i should be able to get back to 7.1 with Omega Ruby if i understand correctly

No! Do not update! Omega Ruby is what bricked my 2DS. Once you get your OTP, use Decrypt9 on 2.1 to restore your sysNAND backup from 9.2