Baah! So yes. Hopefully this isn't illegal to ask, but was wondering if these were any good. HP Pavilion Slimline s5311uk Desktop PC (Windows 7 Home Premium, AMD Athlon II X4 630 Processor, 4 GB DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SATA HDD, 802.11 b/g/n Networking, ATI Radeon HD, USB Keyboard and Mouse) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pavilion-Slimline-...5450&sr=8-1 Or HP IQ542 Intel Core 2 Duo - T600, 4GB PC2 6400/DDR2, 640GB SATA, NVDIA GeForce9600 512MB http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hewlett-Packard-HP...5486&sr=8-2 A place I know does these much cheaper than Amazon! I'm thinking the slimline actually looks pretty good and considering I believe I can get it around £200 cheaper (I think), it will probably be the best option? I've not really researched touch screens... Anyway I shall do so now. Oh yes, this is mainly for porn- general use. But I would like it strong enough to run current games on moderate settings. I'm thinking in that case the first one would be adequate? I'm thinking touch screens with the built in computer aren't particularly good then? Thank you very much for your time.