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Well I couldn't be bothered hanging around for comments about extra AKAIO pages - so I've moved the FAQ to it's own page & placed a link in the AKAIO WIKI page under the FAQ heading

Hope that's OK .. Oh & I've also tried grouping certain question together, if you think they should be moved - go ahead & have fun

Also moved the globalsettings to it's own page as well
 
I would have waited or instead just copied them to a new page and see what AW thought before removing them from the AKAIO page

I have created an Acekard category and moved all the AKAIO/ Acekard pages to it.
 
i want to know why it is such a problem to have all of the article on one page? when you click a link it opens on the _parent, which is why we have avoided putting longer sections into other pages. we don't want users to have to navigate all over the place to get the information they need. its better to have it all on one page. every web browser has a ctrl+f (find) feature. i tested the wiki on win2k on a 15yr old computer and it doesn't cause any problems. i'm going to switch it back.

tk_saturn: PM me, because the next public release of akaio will have different dma settings. i would like you to create a new graphic to be added when that version comes out.

-another world
 
At the moment i'm too tired lol. But I still have the PhotoShop files, just let me know what changes are needed.

I've sorted out the F.A.Q issue. It's in it's own page, and that gets included into your full AKAIO Wiki. So it's all in one page as it was before. Looks a lot tidyier too. Putting the F.A.Q in it's own page halved the size of the document, so was needed.

I've done the same for the GlobalSettings which CannonFoddr also removed (you didn't notice that!)

I've then put them all into an Acekard Category
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?tit...ategory:Acekard

I've then also added a globalsettings and faq link to the template at the bottom.

Looks better if you ask me, all in all took me quite a while to do.
 
tk_saturn said:
At the moment i'm too tired lol. But I still have the PhotoShop files, just let me know what changes are needed.

I've sorted out the F.A.Q issue. It's in it's own page, and that gets included into your full AKAIO Wiki. So it's all in one page as it was before. Looks a lot tidyier too. Putting the F.A.Q in it's own page halved the size of the document, so was needed.

I've done the same for the GlobalSettings which CannonFoddr also removed (you didn't notice that!)

I've then put them all into an Acekard Category
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?tit...ategory:Acekard

I've then also added a globalsettings and faq link to the template at the bottom.

Looks better if you ask me, all in all took me quite a while to do.
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i don't expect a new graphic tonight! i just want to get you the info so its ready when the next public release comes out, which should be pretty soon. i saw that the globalsettings.ini was removed and i saw that you put it back. i read the edit history a few times a day.

i'm not all that keen on wiki-speak so explain to me what you did again. by using the {{what}} tags it loads an article into the body of another article?

how did organizing it cut it down by half? didn't you organize the same amount of information? did you take out information?

i like the organized information, by the way. that was something i wanted to do but somehow never got around to it.

i'm fine with seperate articles for other purposes as long as the information remains in the body of the main article.

-another world
 
It's trancluding it in from another article. The FAQ is in it's own page, but gets included into your AKAIO page. If anyone edits the FAQ page, then those updates will also be reflected in your AKAIO page.

In programming turns, the FAQ has been split into it's own prodedure. You can now call that procedure anytime you want from any program.

Took me a little while to figure out, i'm new to wiki.

The size of the AKAIO page has been reduced in half, because the FAQ took up half. Because you then transclude the FAQ back, no infomation has been removed from the AKAIO page. All i've done it with the FAQ is around and organised it under headings.

The FAQ is here http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?title=AKAIO_FAQs

I've done the same with the HOWTO. It's been split into Icons, Skins and Frames pages, i've also added a bit of infomation to 1 or 2 of them. Those pages then get transcluded into the old HOWTO so the new HOWTO page looks just the old one.

i've put them all in an Acekard category. The Acekard (company) and Rom Compatibility pages didn't have any categpries asociated with them, so i've added them too.
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?tit...ategory:Acekard
 
i follow the coding speak.... =P

i have been the sole maintainer of the wiki for more than a year. i will admit that change does bug me, and most changes (just read the edit history) have not been for the better. what you did was a good idea, something no one ever told me was even possible.

you should come and idle in #acekard. it is nice that both you and CF have become interested in akaio. it has been a long time since someone wanted to do more than just bitch about releases or rom comaptibility. for awhile it felt like it was just myself, vaguerant, and vatoloco that contributed anything important and worth while to akaio.

thanks for your help,
-another world
 
Another example is this new WiFi page i've created http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?title=WiFi

It's all been taken from the FAQ part of your AKAIO page. That gets transcluded into the FAQ page which then gets transcluded into your AKAIO page.

Likewise the HWID info from your WIKI has been copied into a new page, same goes for the Clone info. The HWID info then gets transcluded into the clone page and both get transcluded into into the FAQ. Add an new HWID to the HWID page, and it will be reflected on all of them

You did suggest I learn Wiki LOL.
 
most of the flash kit review wikis are outdated or incomplete *hinthint* =P

don't get to crazy with this. i don't want to have to edit a bunch of pages just to edit the main article. so if you want to take data out of the main akaio article and use it in other articles by using this new process then fine. but don't host that info in new articles all their own. editing will become to confusing.

right now to add a new hwid i have to find that article. edit that article and then the F.A.Q. article gets edited, and in turn the main akaio article gets edited. its already getting confusing.

if you are going to do this, for now, keep a list of links in the discussion section of the main akaio article. i've already added the two i know about.

http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:AKAIO

right now i don't even know where the hwid area is, and i'm the one that compiled the list and wrote it. so i can't even update it because you moved it to its own article.

-another world
 
When I get round to it tomorrow, i'll do you a tree diagram. From that it should be clear.

This is where I learnt it from: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion
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Transclusion markup

* noinclude. The markup ... means that the text between the tags will not be transcluded onto another page, but will only appear on the page itself. This is useful for documentation.
* includeonly. The markup ... means that the text between the tags will only be used when the page is transcluded onto another page, and will not appear on the page itself. This can be useful, for example, for adding categories to pages transcluding a template, without adding the template itself to these categories.
* onlyinclude. The markup ... indicates that only text surrounded by "onlyinclude" markup should be transcluded onto another page. This is the most subtle of the partial transclusion tags because it often overrules the others. If there is at least one pair of "onlyinclude" tags on a page, then whenever this page is transcluded, it is only the material within the "onlyinclude" tags which gets transcluded. There can be several such sections, and within each such section, some material might be further excluded by "noinclude" tags, and might also be surrounded by "includeonly" tags so that it does not appear on the original page itself. But material outside the "onlyinclude" tags will be ignored when the page is transcluded onto another page. This can be useful, for example, to repeat a small part of one page on a second one: just surround the small part by onlyinclude tags, and transclude it onto the second page.
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You were actually already doing it with the Acekard template at the bottom, it's the same as that. The only difference is you put ":" before the page you are linking to.
 
tk_saturn said:
When I get round to it tomorrow, i'll do you a tree diagram. From that it should be clear.
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Yes, please do that. i'm really confused where the akaio wiki has gone. right now i look at the FAQ article you made and its further broken up into other parts i can't even locate. to be honest if you can't explain to me how these changes benefit the akaio wiki, i'm going to revert it back to how it was.

right now to change the main article i have to edit the faq article. to edit the faq article i have to edit a bunch of other articles. its sort of pointless. why break it up so much? i don't want to dig through 10 articles to edit something which edits something else, etc.

http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?tit...ying_An_Acekard
why the hell is that in its own article? what is the point of that? if you have plans to create some big web of acekard related bits of info then i can understand. but i don't like how this affects the akaio wiki. it just makes it REALLY hard to edit it now.

-another world
 
Another World said:
tk_saturn said:
When I get round to it tomorrow, i'll do you a tree diagram. From that it should be clear.
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Yes, please do that. i'm really confused where the akaio wiki has gone. right now i look at the FAQ article you made and its further broken up into other parts i can't even locate. to be honest if you can't explain to me how these changes benefit the akaio wiki, i'm going to revert it back to how it was.

right now to change the main article i have to edit the faq article. to edit the faq article i have to edit a bunch of other articles. its sort of pointless. why break it up so much? i don't want to dig through 10 articles to edit something which edits something else, etc.

http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?tit...ying_An_Acekard
why the hell is that in its own article? what is the point of that? if you have plans to create some big web of acekard related bits of info then i can understand. but i don't like how this affects the akaio wiki. it just makes it REALLY hard to edit it now.

-another world
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If you go to edit the AKAIO page, scroll to the bottom. Under "Templates used on this page: " There's a list of all the other pages it's including along with shortcut links to them.

Even with those two sections moved into their own pages you still get
"WARNING: This page is 32 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections."

Before it was 72KB and I expect there's still a ton of information to be added. Atleast this way it's smaller, but you still have it all AKAIO page.

Logan might in the end moved into into pages like CF did.

I will also add hidden comments visible only when editing on the subpages when I get round to it.
 
Another World said:
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?tit...ying_An_Acekard
why the hell is that in its own article? what is the point of that? if you have plans to create some big web of acekard related bits of info then i can understand. but i don't like how this affects the akaio wiki. it just makes it REALLY hard to edit it now.

-another world
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Well when I moved all questions onto a FAQ WIKI page (OK - I admit I should've waited until other's commented on the idea) - I thought it was best to split the questions into groups to allow easier browsing, instead of some1 having to scroll through a long list where the FAQ were all mixed up (don't forget that Newbies do seem to forget there's such a thing as 'search' or 'find on page' - just look at the GBAtemp forums)

- I wasn't sure WHAT to put those type of questions under and I didn't want to just remove them totally or stick everything them under 'miscellaneous' - so 'buying an acekard' seem the next best thing (IMHO)

If I knew anything about the 'transcluding' method (whatever the hell that is) I guess I would've done that instead
 
Another World said:
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:AKAIO

right now i don't even know where the hwid area is, and i'm the one that compiled the list and wrote it. so i can't even update it because you moved it to its own article.

-another world
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I've made it more simple, no subpages. I've done away with the HWID page and put it the clone page, the entire thing now goes into the FAQ.

I've managed to do away with the seperate WiFi faqs page, just the WiFi page goes into the FAQ. I've removed the "updating over WiFi" section too, instead it transcludes it from your main AKAIO page. You have various WiFi sections in the AKAIO page, this means that all of those can be viewed together in a single page.

I've also updated the talk page, it should be clear on there what does what.
 
1)if akaio runs, the 2i is a REAL card?
2) can i still have both folders _aio and _ak2 folders in the root of micrSDcard? or its one or the other
 
kleptodathief said:
1)if akaio runs, the 2i is a REAL card?
2) can i still have both folders _aio and _ak2 folders in the root of micrSDcard? or its one or the other

we talk about the wiki here, editing it, making it better, etc. post that questions about your ackard in the forum below.

delete12345 said:
The AKAIO FAQ seems to be lacking in plugins and multimedia stuffs. Can I request it here?

no, the plugin system has been removed. this is well known. there is also no akaio multimedia support. an area of the faq for moonshell, etc, is out of the scope of this article. those are homebrew of their own entity. while you could argue that a quick bit of info about what homebrew is good for multimedia *could* be added, i would argue that moonshell is the most popular homebrew. people hear about moonshell before they hear about flash linkers. what would be nice is a moonshell wiki that talks about the history (with screen shots), changes, bug fixes, problems, etc. also information on supported formats, encoding to those formats, etc. why not get that started?

QUOTE(tk_saturn @ Apr 6 2010, 12:43 AM)
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Before it was 72KB and I expect there's still a ton of information to be added. Atleast this way it's smaller, but you still have it all AKAIO page.
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with the next public release, as i already said, the dma modes are changing. so the dma section will be rewritten, much of what is there will be removed. this section will end up being a little bit smaller. any reference to holding certain dma buttons in the article or faq will be removed as there won't be a need to do this any longer. to the faq something will be added which mentions that the 2.1 dec 09 acekards are fixed. reference to them not working in other sections will be removed.

the compabitility page should be updated. what is there can be deleted as dma references will change. also those games have been (should be at least) fixed.

i would also like to get a new dma graphic added, which i also said earlier. but you can just knock that out after the next public release when you know more about what the dma changes will be.

that is all that i have planned for now.

i like how you cleaned up the wiki, although you have created a learning curve. try not to go to crazy, keep it organized but keep it simple! being simple to edit is the most important thing. the 32kb limit only causes some browsers to "snap" back to previous text when trying to edit. it makes editing annoying but not hard or impossible.

i hope you take what you have learned and transfer your information and images for setting up the acekard into a wiki of their own.

-another world
 
At the moment to fed too do anything, i've spent hours today to sort out the issue with the Wiki.

You can now edit like you did previously, from within the AKAIO page. If you goto http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/index.php?tit...balsettings.ini click on the edit to the right of globalsettings and it will edit the seperate globalsettings page as in it were actually in the main AKAIO page as before.

The same applies to the FAQ and the subsections of the FAQ, just click on the edit links on the right site of the page. You won't have to touch the subpages at all.

Also done the same for the AKAIO HowTo page.

So in all essence, editing it should be just like before.
 

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