3DS or NGP (PSP2)

[Ikki]

Also, everyone here thinks the 3D on the 3DS will blow your mind and be the best thing ever. I think it'll be there, some things will pop out, but in the end people will remember the 3D as a gimmick more than a revolution in gaming and a lot of gamers will keep that slider to Off on the 3DS most of the time.

I'll say this: 3D is just equal to upping the graphics. It adds no real gameplay revolutions outside of enhancing the eye candy. What makes 3D better than having the graphics on a PS3?

Simply put, 3D is better because it is something new that hasn't been done before. That's the main selling point of the 3DS for me. If the 3DS didn't have 3D and just better graphics, I would be in no rush to get it anytime soon. Which is what I see the PSP2 as - super preatty graphics but not much new that's worth 400$.

There has been 3D video cards out for a while.

 

[sKeEt]

As impressive as the specs are for the NGP it means nothing without software. Sony doesn't exactly have the best support either. Like Chaz said, they're gonna have to try harder than better graphics which they are trying with the touchscreen but since when has Sony supported these things before? Six Axis? Where has that been? Move? Does anyone even care about the Move?

Here's how you can tell what kind of support they're getting. Nintendo released 3DS dev kits to developers to create a presentation or demo for when they announce the 3DS. The developers immediately responded positively and showed the kind of support Nintendo hasn't seen from them in years. SF4, Resident Evil, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, Kingdom Hearts. Even Metal Gear? Kojima has expressed his disinterest in Nintendo's systems before but was quick to put together a demo for the 3DS and was legitimately excited for it. Not to mention the first party titles like Zelda, PilotWings, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Kid Icarus, and Starfox.

What did Sony's NGP get? Uncharted, LBP, Wipeout, Call of Duty and Resistance? With PS3 quality graphics? So if PS3 owners want to take their games on the go not only do they have to drop $60 for the game but another $60 for the same damn game just to take it with them on top of the final NGP price which may be more than $300? Basically you want more of my money so I can play the same damn games? Nope, not from me Sony.

I'll stick with the 3DS cause I'll actually be getting a unique experience.

 

[Fireballo]

I'll get both. I have a PSP and a DS now and some of the best games I've ever played on a handheld have been psp games. Games like metal gear peace walker and killzone offer a gaming experience the DS can't. The PSP2 looks like it's going to be a better platform for emulators. They both have unique features to offer and they both look like great platforms so why not get both?

 

[petspaps]

As impressive as the specs are for the NGP it means nothing without software. Sony doesn't exactly have the best support either. Like Chaz said, they're gonna have to try harder than better graphics which they are trying with the touchscreen but since when has Sony supported these things before? Six Axis? Where has that been? Move? Does anyone even care about the Move?

Here's how you can tell what kind of support they're getting. Nintendo released 3DS dev kits to developers to create a presentation or demo for when they announce the 3DS. The developers immediately responded positively and showed the kind of support Nintendo hasn't seen from them in years. SF4, Resident Evil, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, Kingdom Hearts. Even Metal Gear? Kojima has expressed his disinterest in Nintendo's systems before but was quick to put together a demo for the 3DS and was legitimately excited for it. Not to mention the first party titles like Zelda, PilotWings, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Kid Icarus, and Starfox.

What did Sony's NGP get? Uncharted, LBP, Wipeout, Call of Duty and Resistance? With PS3 quality graphics? So if PS3 owners want to take their games on the go not only do they have to drop $60 for the game but another $60 for the same damn game just to take it with them on top of the final NGP price which may be more than $300? Basically you want more of my money so I can play the same damn games? Nope, not from me Sony.

I'll stick with the 3DS cause I'll actually be getting a unique experience.

B-E-A-UTIFULLY said, thats all that needs saying.

 

[KingAsix]

I see the PSP2 as a Handheld PS3 and that just doesn't appeal to me....I think they jammed to many things into the system. It's gonna be hella expensive and unless a decent amount of games use all the features then they dont mean much to me. I just wanna play games...I loved when gaming was just buttons and a analog....thats it...what happen to that...Wii is probably the only system, in my opinion, that actually went beyond buttons and it did it well.

Now the 3D on the 3DS is a gimmick unless games can find away to incorporated into the actual gameplay some how....but it just seems more like a gaming system then media center (or in this case a mini media center cause thats pretty much what I use my PS3 as

)

So with all that being said...I will be getting a 3DS, but I can't see myself getting a PSP2 unless it gets fully hacked and it has N64, Dreamcast, and/or PS2 emulation (is it even that powerful for PS2 emulation...i was just thinking it could like the PSP1 emulated PS1)

Oh I think this should be said....I don't give a damn about graphics honestly...As long as the graphics are decent and the gameplay is hott I'm sold...case closed

EDIT-Damn it...I accidentally voted for the freaking PSP2

 

[Traversal]

Wasn't there a topic like this already in the 3DS sub-forums?


Anyways, 3DS. If the 3DS is anything like the DS, (and it has shown to be), then it'll have games that I'll actually play and enjoy.

Besides, Sony waited too long to announce this, because I made up my mind a long time ago. That and I saved my money up a long time ago for the 3DS, and I'm not willing to have to save up another $250 just for the NGP, because it's probably going to be near $500.

 

[KingAsix]

Wasn't there a topic like this already in the 3DS sub-forums?


Anyways, 3DS. If the 3DS is anything like the DS, (and it has shown to be), then it'll have games that I'll actually play and enjoy.

Besides, Sony waited too long to announce this, because I made up my mind a long time ago. That and I saved my money up a long time ago for the 3DS, and I'm not willing to have to save up another $250 just for the NGP, because it's probably going to be near $500.

For that much, as I said before, someone better hack it and it better be able to emulate at least the N64 and Dreamcast and be able to do what all my other consoles can do combine....$500 for a damn handheld

 

[purplesludge]

To the people saying the NGP has little to no support because of the number of demos shown have you seen the list of developers planning games for it?
http://www.qj.net/qjnet/psp/the-ngp-will-b...these-guys.html

Also you can't compare the 3ds which is almost out to the NGP which is several months away.

Quit speculating on pricing nothing has been said about the console itself or games.

Don't forget it is backwards compatible.

Supports Trophies.

Sony states that the battery life of the NGP is comparable to, if not better than, the current PSP when running early development units, so consumers can expect, at the very least, an equal amount of playtime.

As it gets closer to release there will be even more info.
Edit:spelling

 

[sKeEt]

That's not a very good argument. Of course developers are planning to develop games for it. You could say the same thing about the 3DS or any other console ever. What I was showing was the excitement from developers to support the system. To back this up I'm going to raise another point that needs to be addressed about 3D in games as a gimmick.

So there's a lot of talk from people claiming that 3D is a gimmick. Adding 3D to a game is just like adding better graphics. It adds nothing to gameplay and is just eye candy etc.

Well there is a little bit more to the 3DS than just 3D. And it does a lot more than just make things pop out. It has motion-sensing accelerometer and gyroscope and cameras that can take photo's in 3D. What does this mean exactly? Smart developers who want to take advantage of these things can incorporate some impressive techniques into their game design.

With the motion-sensing accelerometer and gyroscope they can use it to track your motions which then affect the 3D to allow change in perception by moving around which is made possible thanks to the added depth the stereoscopic 3D effect offers. Maybe you have to find something in the game but in order to find it you may have to crouch or position yourself in an angle in order to view it. Imagine being against the wall in Metal Gear and to peak out from it you actually have to peak out with or from your 3DS. The implications can add a lot to the game experience.

Taking photos can just as much be used in gameplay should developers choose so. Even if not, taking pictures in 3D is still a great idea. There's free software for the 3DS that has you taking pictures of things in the world around you to shoot targets and such. Take a picture of your face and have an aerial battle shooting your own face.

With the way 3D can be incorporated into games like this it's understandable that developers would be more excited making games for the 3DS than the basically just like the PS3 NGP. And if that's the case than it's just as expensive to develop for while only being able to offer exactly what's already being offered but in portable form.

I mean if the NGP is basically a PS3 in your pocket than why bother with a PS3 then? Even if Sony gets the support and the NGP is successful they may potentially kill off the PS3. If it does the same or more than the PS3 what will draw consumers to support it? It's a bit of a risk for them to make unless they do it right. How many things does Sony do right? I don't think their track record has been that good so far.

 

[SilentRevolt]

i choose 3DS,cause i cant afford to buy two gaming device in one year.

 

[KingVamp]

PSP2 backwards compatible? Understand it can download psp games, but you can not use umds on it which is a good thing and bad thing.

Can it still do output?

Anyway 3DS early and PSP2 quite much later.

3DS grab more of attention and probably cheaper....

 

[Stevetry]

3DS is a dumb question to ask i want game PSP2 haves no game and no battery life

How do you know the NGP doesn't have games, have you seen the developer lineup? If not I suggest you start looking.

Ignore him, he's a fail troll, none of his 1000 posts have any content or actual thinking behind them.

i dont troll is th true so yea show me the games ?

 

[CarbonX13]

Undecided. I'll wait for the price of the NGP to be revealed, as well as the upcoming games library. If the price is reasonable, and there's a decent set of games on the NGP that I'd like, I might go for the NGP. Otherwise, I'll probably get myself a 3DS.

 

[nryn99]

ahh, i want both. both looks good.

 

[omgpwn666]

Getting both, I have to.

 

[Rayder]

I won't be getting either system any time soon, if ever.

You see, I'm very old-school, I like old-school games. Today's game developers can't really profit from the types of games I like, they just don't sell, so they don't make those kinds of games anymore. Since they don't make those kinds of games anymore, people like me are left trying to play these current-gen games.......and they just don't have the same appeal to me like they do for younger gamers.

Once the DS is done and the last DS ROM is dumped to the scene, that is likely when my time with gaming will basically be at an end. I'll still play my old games on occasion, but I won't bother with newer games and systems. As it is now, I frequently go days on end without playing any games on any system. If I had to actually buy all the games for the DS and PC instead of just DL'ing them, I would have gotten rid of the DS a long time ago and I also would have been done with gaming a couple of years ago. And as we all know, PC's do a hell of a lot more than just play games.

To put it simply, I don't really fit the "gamer" profile these days. The time for me to move on is fast approaching. I've been ignoring the feeling that there is something else I'm supposed to be doing every time I turn on a video game. That feeling has been dogging me for years now. Believe me when I say that it has really sucked the fun out of gaming for me, that feeling has. It's about time I discover what that "something else I'm supposed to be doing" actually is and go do it.

 

[monkat]

The time for me to move on is fast approaching. I've been ignoring the feeling that there is something else I'm supposed to be doing every time I turn on a video game. That feeling has been dogging me for years now. Believe me when I say that it has really sucked the fun out of gaming for me, that feeling has. It's about time I discover what that "something else I'm supposed to be doing" actually is and go do it.

Damn it...I hate stuff like this...

Really makes me feel like I'm middle-aged...past my prime T_T...

 

[machomuu]

Uh...no, being TheRetroNeoGamer, I condemn stuff like "out with the old, in with the new". My motto is "Live in the past, Look to the Future" ™, I love old games, no matter how old (two of my favorite games of all time are Chrono Trigger and Ocarina of Time) and in the future, I plan to review games new and old (not as a profession, though).

Oh, and the 3DS, the NGP doesn't really have any specs (except for graphics) that make me want to buy it over a PSP.

 

[awssk8er]

As of now the 3DS automatically wins because it's made by Nintendo. It's guaranteed to have amazing first party games released for it.

For the NGP, we have Uncharted.

Ocarina of Time + Kid Icarus > Uncharted.

 

[Joe88]

As of now the 3DS automatically wins because it's made by Nintendo. It's guaranteed to have amazing first party games released for it.

For the NGP, we have Uncharted.

Ocarina of Time + Kid Icarus > Uncharted.

this post doesnt say nintendo fanboy at all