Hardware 3DS less powerful than iPhone

[Midna]

I don't see why this is that much of a surprise to anyone. The 3DS is a dedicated gaming device, all its power goes towards gaming. The iPhone is a phone, it uses lots of power on non-gaming features, phone, SMS, staying on a wireless network, etc. Not all of the iPhone is used towards gaming, which would explain why it requires more power. And look at the price difference, the 3DS would be maximum $300 in Canada and/or United States (likely $270, and $250 respectively), whereas the iPhone 4 is priced at $600 without a contract up here in Canada.

I don't remember any gaming pricing difference between us and Amerikhastan. Our dollar is actually worth more right now.

 

[Slyakin]

I don't see why this is that much of a surprise to anyone. The 3DS is a dedicated gaming device, all its power goes towards gaming. The iPhone is a phone, it uses lots of power on non-gaming features, phone, SMS, staying on a wireless network, etc. Not all of the iPhone is used towards gaming, which would explain why it requires more power. And look at the price difference, the 3DS would be maximum $300 in Canada and/or United States (likely $270, and $250 respectively), whereas the iPhone 4 is priced at $600 without a contract up here in Canada.

I don't remember any gaming pricing difference between us and Amerikastan. Our dollar is actually worth more right now.

Amerikastan? Okay, REALLY? What the fuck. I always thought your comments were pointless, but really.

On topic, I think that, even if the 3DS is less powerful then the iPhone, I think that the pictures that we see show that the 3DS is going to be a great gaming device nonetheless.

And even if it's choppy, I still think that Nintendo will do a great job.

 

[Midna]

Well that's not very polite. I usually refer to Canada as Kanadastan or Kanuckistan as well. You silly patriotic Americans. Or Amerikhastanees.

And let alone the rest of my posts, how was that pointless? I wasn't aware of any gaming pricing difference between us and the fellows to the south. CarbonX13 implied a pricing difference. It's true our dollar is worth 1.4 cents more than yours right now. No need for the trolling.

 

[ArKRaveN]

DS is less powerful than PSP *gasp*

 

[davidsl_128]

I'm still getting the 3DS, but... a next-gen dedicated gaming system being weaker than a simple phone is just sad

Although the DS was weak even back at launch day, and look where it is now!

Still... it's just LAME... it's not even weaker than a gaming system competitor... it's weaker than a PHONE!!!! xD

 

[TM2-Megatron]

i don't expect it to be more powerful than an iphone. iphones are cutting edge techonology, after a few months it's already outdated and they release a new one every year.

Shiny doesn't mean cutting edge. iPhones are cute, with a cute UI that's fun and good for posers to pose with.

QUOTE(MADKATZ99 @ Oct 10 2010, 02:53 AM) plus, they cost twice as much. it's foolish to think a product half the price should be just as strong.

But all Apple tech is overpriced, so the price alone can't be used as a good indicator. They're probably overpriced by 2x or 3x for what's in them compared to more reasonable companies. Also, they're cell phones; which are inherently more expensive; especially without a contract. Doesn't mean they're actually worth that price.

 

[KuRensan]

A Phone is always stronger than A HandConsole because a Phone have Wi-Fi (internet), Games, take pictures and things a handconsole can't: SMS, Call and make video's. Every phone can do more than a Handconsole but that's because the are made for it

p.s video calls via Wi-fi on a 3ds sounds cool to me

 

[_Chaz_]

A Phone is always stronger than A HandConsole because a Phone have Wi-Fi (internet), Games, take pictures and things a handconsole can't: SMS, Call and make video's. Every phone can do more than a Handconsole but that's because the are made for it

p.s video calls via Wi-fi on a 3ds sounds cool to me

I sense a Skype client when it is hacked.

 

[koji2009]

I think people are taking the specs to heart a little soon. As far as I've heard, there has only been 1 leaked document stating the specs, and we've had other leaks since then that seem to contradict this (the diagram with 2 video chips for example)

Until someone drops some official nintendo documents or takes a picture of the 3DS mainboards, I wouldn't jump to to many conclusions.

 

[nutella]

i don't expect it to be more powerful than an iphone. iphones are cutting edge techonology, after a few months it's already outdated and they release a new one every year.

Cutting edge? Yeah, alrighty then. Meanwhile, I'll be playing my games that I can play with buttons and 3D.

 

[cracker]

i don't expect it to be more powerful than an iphone. iphones are cutting edge techonology, after a few months it's already outdated and they release a new one every year.

Cutting edge? Yeah, alrighty then. Meanwhile, I'll be playing my games that I can play with buttons and 3D.

There's an app for... Oops nevermind...

 

[Wintrale]

I seriously don't get what all the fuss is about... The 3DS's GPU has a 400MHz clock speed, right? Well, the 360 has 500MHz and the PS3 only has 700MHz. So it's not like the GPU is too far behind the home consoles we play now and the lack of RAM should be offset by the considerably smaller and noticeably standard definition display. I'm not saying the 3DS will be able to have graphics as good as the PS3 or 360, but it won't be far off and Kojima and Capcom have already confirmed that the 3DS can use many of the same materials (such as the MT Framework engine and the models in MGS4) as PS3 and 360 games.

 

[ThePowerOutage]

The PlayStation 3 uses the Sony, Toshiba, IBM-designed Cell microprocessor as its CPU, which is made up of one 3.2 GHz PowerPC-based "Power Processing Element" (PPE) and eight Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs)

Wikipeadia
The PS3 is far more high powered, but can't be compared as they use a completely different arcitecture and different ways of processing information

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I seriously don't get what all the fuss is about... The 3DS's GPU has a 400MHz clock speed, right? Well, the 360 has 500MHz and the PS3 only has 700MHz. So it's not like the GPU is too far behind the home consoles we play now and the lack of RAM should be offset by the considerably smaller and noticeably standard definition display. I'm not saying the 3DS will be able to have graphics as good as the PS3 or 360, but it won't be far off and Kojima and Capcom have already confirmed that the 3DS can use many of the same materials (such as the MT Framework engine and the models in MGS4) as PS3 and 360 games.

You're comparing GPUs by clock speed?

 

[Gullwing]

Its natural for smart phones to have higher RAM because many things need to proccess in the background (on iphone: Email Client, SMS, Phone, Safari and many others)... So for a handheld device huge amounts of RAM is pretty useless... The GPU of the 3DS is more powerful because it has to proccess double an image of a game, in order to be 3D... So no, iPhone is not more powerful

 

[Wintrale]

You're comparing GPUs by clock speed?

Why not? It has about as much relevance to how more powerful the iPhone is than the 3DS as comparing their RAM or screen resolution.

 

[pasc]

i would like to see the iphone do 3d without glasses...

Well, here you go xD: http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/09....due.this.fall/

Anyways, I still will eat the 3DS when it comes out ! I have been waiting for something like that forever

. Even though gaming currently isn't one of my top priority things.

 

[prowler]

Anyways, I still will eat the 3DS when it comes out!

You will eat it?
Each to their own, I guess

 

[Berthenk]

You're comparing GPUs by clock speed?

Why not? It has about as much relevance to how more powerful the iPhone is than the 3DS as comparing their RAM or screen resolution.

No, not really. How good a GPU performs als depends on the architecture of the chip and such, not just the clock speed and amount of VRAM.

 

[trumpet-205]

You're comparing GPUs by clock speed?

Why not? It has about as much relevance to how more powerful the iPhone is than the 3DS as comparing their RAM or screen resolution.

A BIG BIG misconception that people these days still does.

Clock speed does NOT reflect total performance, whether this is GPU, CPU, or RAM. What truly reflects performance are architectures, instruction set, latency, memory cache and much more. Clock speed ONLY reflects performance when you are comparing something from the SAME family.

Example - An Intel Core 2 CPU rated at 2.4 GHz outperforms an Intel Pentium 4 rated at 3.06 GHz because Core 2 has dual core, higher L2 cache, and more.

Also, iPhone uses higher rated hardware because it runs both OS and background processes. 3DS is solely a device design for gaming. 3DS does not need such high class hardware.