Hacking 3DS Hack: "We hacked it"

[DrunkenMonk]

I keep seeing this image as "proof", but it's related to an entirely different method of save editing - it's not the exploit we're talking about at all.

No but if you understand what it means, then you'd know it's proof enough. It's not simple either way, and it's on a completely unmodified 3ds.

Lets just paste this too...

"Neimod -- Thesspa: Unfortunately, you forget that you also need to update the embedded signature inside the 'hex edited' savegame to match the changes you made. Otherwise the 3ds will not accept the modified savegame.
The method to calculate the signature is based on AES, which you will find close to impossible to break without the right key. Nobody outside of Nintendo's engineering circle managed to recalculate the signature. Until now..."

and here's the link http://www.flickr.com/photos/neimod/8078325837/in/photostream/

if you don't trust neimod and the rest of the important fellas at the 3DS scene you really need to take a hard look at yourself.

 

[Foxi4]

if you don't trust neimod and the rest of the important fellas at the 3DS scene you really need to take a hard look at yourself.

I trust them, I was just pointing out that Neimod did not present an exploit of any kind and the picture posted was unrelated in any way.

 

[chrisrlink]

will you need a dumper to upload the exploit or can it run on an SD card anyone knows?

 

[Foxi4]

will you need a dumper to upload the exploit or can it run on an SD card anyone knows?

You need some method of uploading the save file onto the 3DS cartridge which is used for the exploit.

 

[ClickCLK]

No but if you understand what it means, then you'd know it's proof enough. It's not simple either way, and it's on a completely unmodified 3ds.

Completely unmodified, eh? If you quoted neimod's flickr then you sought this pic for sure

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COMPLETELY unmodified! As I see this was done on this monstrosity, saved to a game cartridge and then loaded on another 3DS. But i can be wrong though...

 

[Nash]

hope it's ture

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Completely unmodified, eh? If you quoted neimod's flickr then you sought this pic for sure

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COMPLETELY unmodified! As I see this was done on this monstrosity, saved to a game cartridge and then loaded on another 3DS. But i can be wrong though...

Maybe I'm wrong, but this picture is from neimod trying to read some kind of data. It has nothing to do with the exploit they have found. Maybe they use this to look inside of something, but you dont need to do this to repeat the exploit.

 

[shakirmoledina]

its still a long way to go. great work and dedication from the modders as i can see them breaking apart 3ds-s just for our enjoyment.

 

[Fubuki-Shirou]

Can't wait IF this is real, for the time being I guess we'll just have to wait.

 

[Qtis]

Maybe I'm wrong, but this picture is from neimod trying to read some kind of data. It has nothing to do with the exploit they have found. Maybe they use this to look inside of something, but you dont need to do this to repeat the exploit.

The picture was shows neimod's method of tracking the data between different parts of the screen. The fact that it works is just the proof that it is capable of getting the data sent between the unit, screens and whatever is in between. The hack seems to run on a non-modified 3DS, but so far there hasn't been talk about the method of transferring the modified and then signed (?) saves back to the cart (whatever it looks like).

 

[ClickCLK]

Maybe I'm wrong, but this picture is from neimod trying to read some kind of data. It has nothing to do with the exploit they have found. Maybe they use this to look inside of something, but you dont need to do this to repeat the exploit.

I never sayed that this pic was related to yellows8 exploit. And yes, I know that one doesn't need this RAM setup to reproduce this new exploit. I just wanted to reply to lokomelo that this was achieved not on unmodified 3DS, but in fact VERY HEAVY modified 3DS and that neimod's picture is whole another opera...

 

[the_randomizer]

I'm sorry what was this thread about again? Curved swords and sweet rolls?

 

[tysonrss]

Nintendo needs to update their damn hardware for their handhelds and stop using ARM, goddamn.

 

[Originality]

Nintendo needs to update their damn hardware for their handhelds and stop using ARM, goddamn.

Ninty will never stop using ARM. Neither will Apple or Samsung or Sony or several others. Not until there's better.

 

[the_randomizer]

Nintendo needs to update their damn hardware for their handhelds and stop using ARM, goddamn.

Why? So region locking can't be circumvented? I see nothing immoral about bypassing that, hence why hacks are useful.

 

[tysonrss]

Ninty will never stop using ARM. Neither will Apple or Samsung or Sony or several others. Not until there's better.

Oh...I thought there was something better lol its just seem like that the DS and 3DS use the similar hardware and its aggravating.

 

[tysonrss]

Why? So region locking can't be circumvented? I see nothing immoral about bypassing that, hence why hacks are useful.

I'm for the unlocking of region lock because I want to play Dragon Ball Heroes when its released.

 

[the_randomizer]

I'm for the unlocking of region lock because I want to play Dragon Ball Heroes when its released.

I don't see what's wrong with ARM CPUs, they generate less heat and are cheaper to produce, plus it makes porting emulators a lot easier. I use to have a 3DS, but I had buyer's remorse (limited selection of launch titles I wanted didn't help) and traded it in for a PS3.

 

[SifJar]

Oh...I thought there was something better lol its just seem like that the DS and 3DS use the similar hardware and its aggravating.

Yes, it is so aggravating to use a familiar architecture, making it easier for their developers to work with. How inconsiderate of Nintendo. Don't they know they should be keeping their engineers busy by finding a new architecture for each new console, rather than continuing to use one of the most widely used architectures for non-PC devices?

 

[Aeter]

I never sayed that this pic was related to yellows8 exploit. And yes, I know that one doesn't need this RAM setup to reproduce this new exploit. I just wanted to reply to lokomelo that this was achieved not on unmodified 3DS, but in fact VERY HEAVY modified 3DS and that neimod's picture is whole another opera...

The point is that he was able to hex edit a savegame file and that it actually worked with an unmodded 3DS.
He probably used the modified 3DS to load the savegame file to the cartridge and then use the cartridge in an unmodded 3DS, or at least that's what I can make of this.
And with access to savegames they might be able to find some kind of exploit that might give them access to the 3DS, but that's just speculation, but it gives hope nonetheless.