Hacking 3DS Hack: "We hacked it"

[RodrigoDavy]

he has obtained some kind of GPU control. and he wont release anything. Hey cmon!
[07:53:03] <@neimod> full control of the 3ds in kernel mode (arm9 & arm11)
[07:51:59] <@neimod> unfortunately, we are elitist bastards who never share anything,...

amazing! cmon I would love if this gets hacked today! I beg!

Even if they did that, unless you already own the hacked game you wouldn't be able to use this hack today.

 

[RupeeClock]

Even if they did that, unless you already own the hacked game you wouldn't be able to use this hack today.

I'm hoping that for many people's sakes they announce that they are going to reveal what the exploit is on a certain date, so people have a chance to grab it and not miss it.

You know once they have a way to exploit and get something meaningful installed. Once a few systems are exploited then arguably it may be possible to keep them permanently exploited, if they are clever about this.

 

[narutopet112]

Maybe next month (januari) Nintendo Will bring a update. And if the exploit isn't release by then wouldn't be wast? Just a possibilty.

 

[Foxi4]

Maybe next month (januari) Nintendo Will bring a update. And if the exploit isn't release by then wouldn't be wast? Just a possibilty.

They can't update something they're not aware of, which is why any exploits are kept in secrecy. The chances that they'll patch a security hole they're unaware of are one in a million.

 

[gamefan5]

Spoiler

[07:51:56] <@neimod> full control of the 3ds in kernel mode (arm9 & arm11) from an unmodified 3ds :]
[07:53:03] <EdTheNerd> HHNNNNGGGGG
[07:53:05] <@neimod> the sky is the limit!
[07:53:17] <EdTheNerd> Gib romz plox
[07:53:50] <@neimod> in theory it's possible
[07:53:52] <EdTheNerd> Now then, make it do somethig cool, while displaying GBA TEMP BLOWS somewhere on the screen
[07:54:04] <EdTheNerd> Then enjoy the show
[07:54:36] <EdTheNerd> "neimod: in theory it's possible"
[07:55:02] <EdTheNerd> T-10 seconds before gbatemp quotes that and pisses itself like an excited dog
[07:55:59] <jse> nice work neimod
[07:56:02] <jse> congrats
[07:57:34] <@neimod> unfortunately, we are elitist bastards who never share anything, so kiss that warez loader goodbye
[07:58:01] <EdTheNerd> So not to try to pry to much info here, but is this something you need a specific game/app for?
[07:58:31] <EdTheNerd> Should i by buying all of the eshop now?
[07:58:35] <@neimod> it's based on a specific card-based game
[07:58:39] <EdTheNerd> Nice
[07:58:58] <EdTheNerd> How patchable would you say this is?
[07:59:06] <@neimod> very easily
[07:59:12] <EdTheNerd>
[07:59:41] <EdTheNerd> Still, amazeing work as always
[07:59:46] <EdTheNerd> Congrats!
[08:00:10] <@yellows8> SD version can be used too but ofc one has to run code first for that.
[08:00:19] <EdTheNerd> Now take careof that pesky region lock!
[08:00:33] <EdTheNerd> Could such a thing be posible with this now?
[08:01:55] <@neimod> yes, with full kernel control anything is possible

Well finally they did it. If it's that ez to patch, don't bother release the info though.

 

[Snailface]

I'm hoping that for many people's sakes they announce that they are going to reveal what the exploit is on a certain date, so people have a chance to grab it and not miss it.

You know once they have a way to exploit and get something meaningful installed. Once a few systems are exploited then arguably it may be possible to keep them permanently exploited, if they are clever about this.

If they can write to the kernel, I can't imagine it will be difficult to patch the auto update feature of the 3ds. Th trick is for people to keep their systems completely offline until the perma hack is installed as Nintendo can lock out exploits in an emergency most likely. I know my backup systems will be staying offline with all wifi settings wiped until something is released.

 

[RupeeClock]

They can't update something they're not aware of, which is why any exploits are kept in secrecy. The chances that they'll patch a security hole they're unaware of are one in a million.

Indeed, everything they've put onto 3dbrew.org is either documentation of how the 3DS works (for anyone seeking to develop unsigned code), or proof of being able to execute unsigned code (like the CustomNotification.jpg)
Still, I have no doubts that Nintendo keep their eyes on sites like these.

[chatlog]

Is there a source for this chatlog anyway?

 

[RodrigoDavy]

Maybe next month (januari) Nintendo Will bring a update. And if the exploit isn't release by then wouldn't be wast? Just a possibilty.

If that happens, all we have to do is not update our console. Also, I am pretty sure yellows8 would warn us if that was the case.

 

[RupeeClock]

If they can write to the kernel, I can't imagine it will be difficult to patch the auto update feature of the 3ds. Th trick is for people to keep their systems completely offline until the perma hack is installed as Nintendo can lock out exploits in an emergency most likely. I know my backup systems will be staying offline with all wifi settings wiped until something is released.

Even then, you gotta be careful about Nintendo Zone hotspots!
Your 3DS will automatically be internet enabled if you pass through one of these hotspots! I've had spotpass notifications just by walking through my local shopping centre before.
It may be best to disable the wireless switch altogether.

But indeed, what I am hoping is that they will be able to deal with those pesky auto-updates that sneak onto the system through spotpass. Isn't there a way to disable that without disabling wireless? You can say "Not now" but that message will keep bugging you, unless it's possible for the homebrew exploit to disable the service, and delete any stored updates waiting to be installed.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

But indeed, what I am hoping is that they will be able to deal with those pesky auto-updates that sneak onto the system through spotpass. Isn't there a way to disable that without disabling wireless? You can say "Not now" but that message will keep bugging you, unless it's possible for the homebrew exploit to disable the service, and delete any stored updates waiting to be installed.

You can disable SpotPass via the System's Settings

 

[narutopet112]

If that happens, all we have to do is not update our console. Also, I am pretty sure yellows8 would warn us if that was the case.

You'r right but there are Many that (i dont why) still updates their 3ds's. I guess that's they'r own Fault then

 

[heartgold]

Wait, what! neimod as full control of the 3DS kernel mode? I wasn't even aware 3DS had a ARM9 chip.

This is big news if true, no wonder they have mapped out so much on 3Dbrew.

Memory Layout
http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Memory_layout

Kernel Objectives
http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Category:Kernel_objects

 

[RukaRoaw]

What is Kernel anyway?

 

[RupeeClock]

You can disable SpotPass via the System's Settings

Right, of cooooourse, how silly of me.
Time to disable spotpass software downloads and sending of system info on my spare 3DS.
On my main 3DS XL though, is disable spotpass software downloads going to stop me from getting other spotpass notifications in general? I don't want to lose that.

 

[sightlight]

Wait, what! neimod as full control of the 3DS kernel mode? I wasn't even aware 3DS had a ARM9 chip.

This is big news if true, no wonder they have mapped out so much on 3Dbrew.

Memory Layout
http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Memory_layout

Kernel Objectives
http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Category:Kernel_objects

that what im saying, if this is true then we could hack it today ->.<-

 

[Snailface]

It'll be interesting to see what can be learned from DSi Mode within 3ds and maybe getting the DSi softmodded as well.

 

[sightlight]

I want to run my own code

 

[ilman]

What is Kernel anyway?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kernel

 

[RupeeClock]

I want to run my own code

Nobody knows yet, no point in knowing right now incase Nintendo takes measures to fix it, since we don't have anything usable yet.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

Right, of cooooourse, how silly of me.
Time to disable spotpass software downloads and sending of system info on my spare 3DS.
On my main 3DS XL though, is disable spotpass software downloads going to stop me from getting other spotpass notifications in general? I don't want to lose that.

If I remember well, you need to disable spotpass for each individual title