Hacking 3DS Firmware has been decrypted

[GRIM.657]

Just wondering if he can decrypt the firmware shouldnt the roms use the same encryption?

Not necessarily.

 

[Coto]

Just wondering if he can decrypt the firmware shouldnt the roms use the same encryption?

Well some sceners have already dumped some 3DS games. Encrypted..

 

[Ericthegreat]

Just wondering if he can decrypt the firmware shouldnt the roms use the same encryption?

Well some sceners have already dumped some 3DS games. Encrypted..

Yes but if we can decrypt the roms, it would let people begin to try and find exploits.

 

[Coto]

Just wondering if he can decrypt the firmware shouldnt the roms use the same encryption?

Well some sceners have already dumped some 3DS games. Encrypted..

Yes but if we can decrypt the roms, it would let people begin to try and find exploits.

How?

 

[ken28]

Just wondering if he can decrypt the firmware shouldnt the roms use the same encryption?

Well some sceners have already dumped some 3DS games. Encrypted..

Yes but if we can decrypt the roms, it would let people begin to try and find exploits.

If we could devrypt them we doesnt need a exploit anymore......

 

[Rydian]

If we could devrypt them we doesnt need a exploit anymore......

The 3DS doesn't run decrypted stuff, so no.

Yes but if we can decrypt the roms, it would let people begin to try and find exploits.

Esploits in those specific games, perhaps (so it'd be like the Wii needing specific games again), and even then people would need some sort of environment to run them in (such as an emulator), unless they feel like working out ARM assembly by hand...

 

[ken28]

If we could devrypt them we doesnt need a exploit anymore......

The 3DS doesn't run decrypted stuff, so no.

Yes but if we can decrypt the roms, it would let people begin to try and find exploits.

Esploits in those specific games, perhaps (so it'd be like the Wii needing specific games again), and even then people would need some sort of environment to run them in (such as an emulator), unless they feel like working out ARM assembly by hand...

I meant if we could decrypt we have either a exploit or the keys needed for it,either a exploits isn't needed.

 

[Coto]

Since a game is compiled to run under a certain "environment" we need to decrypt the game, trace by hand everything it needs to run, initialize (pointers, calls, map areas and such, ram addressing techniques, know the hardware very well)... well at least as it was in GBA era

 

[Rydian]

I meant if we could decrypt we have either a exploit or the keys needed for it,either a exploits isn't needed.

First of all the keys aren't in the games, secondly I covered the whole "decrypt = exploit" line of thought. That's not how it works alone.

People can do that sort of thing on the Wii and such because there's development tools for the Wii that people can use, they have debugging environments they can analyze the code in while it runs in a virtual environment.

That is not the case with the 3DS.

 

[Lucifer666]

This thread is 25 pages of noobs who are too lazy to read previous posts asking "omg nw do we hav 3ds homebrew channel?" and repeatedly getting "no" for an answer.

The discussions aren't exactly getting anywhere, and I personally believe this should be locked.

 

[Maxternal]

DECRYPTED game = you can run the game on an emulator (but you need to make one first)
You can also see the files inside and examine them. That DOESN'T necessarily mean you can RE-ENCRYPT a changed version and put it BACK on the card to play it or run homebrew. It's often a one-way thing, especially when it also needs to be SIGNED (something else that's different from decryption and we can't necessarily do yet.)
EXPLOIT is a way start running a game and then trick the 3DS into switching to running your homebrew when it thinks it's still really running the legit game. Once your looking at the files from the game that you've DECRYPTED you MIGHT be able to find somewhere where the game was badly programmed to let it be tricked in that way but not necessarily.

 

[Ismaw34]

You can decript code, but you cant encrypt it because you can sign it.
In the case of the wii, a video is (i think) i this thread showing how the trucha bug works, and if all the noobs see that, would make more sense and stop asking stupid things.
You cant sign it and ecrypt it, so you can run custom code, and the decryption is not in any way allowing us to run unsigned code without signing it or trick the system to think that its signed by nintendo.

-Ismaw34

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

[12:41] homebrew channel installed
[12:41] roms running perfectly ;-)

How easy was that?


and no, that wasn't real.

He got 3DS roms to work? I hope thats true, or does he mean ds roms

massive, massive facepalm for you sir...

 

[EthanObi]

Am I the ONLY person who read the first post Recently? _>...
Apparently I am.

[19:12] firmware isn't really decrypted

So some of us talked to him and he said this. No luck guys.

 

[LurkerA]

oh...really? just found that...

 

[Vampire Lied]

As lucifer666 said, there are a lot of repeated noob questions in the thread. BUT, for every noob question, someone who knows their shit answers in a very easy to understand way. I'd like to say thanks to the few that really know their stuff for sharing their knowledge. I also would like to request that the thread NOT be locked for the simple fact that I like to lurk and gain knowledge.
This is really an informative thread for those that don't know the finer technical stuff about what's going on and take the time to read instead of shouting "so I can has romz NAO??!?" every time a minor breakthrough happens.

 

[nukeboy95]

N0OBs read this befor posting

1. this does not mean hombrew
2. this does not mean flash cards\kards
3. no hacks yet

this is just a tiny step

 

[porkiewpyne]

Sorta outta topic but...

N0OBs read this before posting

1. this does not mean hombrew
2. this does not mean flash cards\kards
3. no hacks yet

this is just a tiny step

Let's be honest here. In retrospect, if they had actually read anything at all other than the title, there wouldn't be the massive influx of "OMG HOMEBREWZ 3DS ROMZ FLAHSCARTZ NAO WEEEE HAXX kthxbai" :\

This reminds me of the same flood of "how to i playz 3ds romz on (insert card/emu here)" posts after the 3ds rom dump thread.

Then again, I guess your post is kinda useful so that they can't use the "LOL didnt bother to read last 20 pages derp" excuse

Maybe we should all change our sigs to "NO 3DS HACKS YET. PERIOD." in big bold red font

 

[synce]

I saw one reply asking about homebrew channel and like 20 replies talking about noobs.

Anyway the 3DS has been out for over a year and half and still unhacked, which is something of a minor miracle. You can't blame people for being anxious. PS3 might've took much longer but there was no reason to hack it - it was region free and had free online, plus linux.

 

[Mirby]

I just want the roms decrypted to get some files out.

Yes I just want the music. I'm also tired of hearing rumors of it being completely hacked (seriously, I had someone at Safeway of all places tell me that the R4 Gold card played 3DS roms and stuff), so I eagerly await the day when it actually is. Whether that's tomorrow or a year from now, I don't know, but I'm willing to wait. Keep up the effort, all who are attempting to do something. :3