3DS emulator Citra now has "networking" support

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  1. MENTALDOMINANCE

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    Voicing an opinion that I feel they should work on more important things, that there's too many people working on the project
    and that no real substantial progress seems to be being made is not "whining".
    It is also not claiming that I am owed anything by the developers.

    I repeat - I am so sick of this kind of canned response. I'm also sick of people who claim to speak for others
    ("nobody wants your shitty opinion") and the general condescending attitude. Do you really feel so insecure making a point
    that you have to involve imaginary supporters? It could also be argued that "my shitty opinion" is mostly fact anyhow and
    I'm sure many others hold it. I love the scene as much as anyone and I do not intend to offend anyone but I really hate it
    when any form of criticism is exaggerated as you are doing with me in an attempt to make me look like I'm just the biggest
    dick in the world when really all I'm saying is things could be better. Why is expecting better wrong?

    Constructive criticism is pointing out valid and logical truths. Game compatibility has not really changed in months and there
    is a point when a project gets too big - as someone else pointed out, it's a chore to simply keep track of all the users
    submitting updates and keep the builds straight. No one would say that's a good thing. I don't want a war so I hope all
    points have been made and we can move on and have positive discussions that sometimes include criticism without
    the critic being crucified or told that he/she can not voice their opinion unless they join a development team and code.
     
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  2. jselby

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    What other answer are you looking for here? Condescending, maybe, but that is how it is - the community themselves has driven this disconnect.

    It most certainly has. People are working towards both GPU improvements, I know people are working on IPC (multiprocess - swkeyboard I think), a million other things are going on as well. Reverse engineering is incredibly time-intensive, and most devs just want to work on the obvious stuff, which is perfectly fine.

    You are free to voice your opinion, but when it is the exact same argument that is being made on every single Reddit, GBATemp, Youtube post that we make, people get really, really sick of it. That is how it is.
     
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    these arguments are often the most pointless "obvious" suggestions to make, do you really think devs involved just go "ooooh you know what!, we could fix all these bugs really easily, but what I think people really want is network support, sometimes you have to just have faith that the people who can code an emulator aren't absolute idiots who cannot realise that fixing game compatibity and bugs would be a good thing to do if/when they can

    don't get me wrong I can understand peoples frustration if they just want magic to happen so they themselves can just use an emulator, but I would like thing hope that people capable of making emulators understand simple logic and don't need constant prompts to keep breathing
     
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  4. Jonna

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    Yes, but the actual method of doing so - save state reloading wouldn't show on the other side as well, and neither would slowing down the game. Unless they specifically program the TASing tools to show up and synchronize on both sides during multiplayer, which would benefit... no one?
     
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    This is gonna be interesting probably. Never used citra though. No need to.
     
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  6. Milenium

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    That's some great news, Citra is improving faster than i thought.

    I hope we can use features such as DLC/amiibo soon. Also does anyone knows if the citra multiplayer works with FE Fates, or its just smash and pokemon?
     
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  7. FIXMY3DS

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    Well, I feel fixing the Windows builds is more important tbh.
     
  8. Tomato Hentai

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    Damn, that's awesome.

    I hope melonDS gets support for something like this. I'd love to be able to screw around in Pokemon Platinum's underground with internet friends, since I know nobody irl who owns DPPt.
    I know that melonDS is getting WiFi support, but ya can't do the underground over WiFi.
     
  9. jselby

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    Um, they work fine? They are managed by two different teams?
     
  10. FIXMY3DS

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    I was talking about the build bot and it being behind in updates to Citra Libretro and how it also didn't compile for me, for Windows.
     
  11. jselby

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    If you are talking specifically about changes, I have to manually rebase it with changes from upstream whenever updates are made there. Building should work fine with the standard Citra build guide, except with '-DENABLE_SDL2=0 -DENABLE_QT=0 -DENABLE_LIBRETRO=1' or similar.
     
  12. FIXMY3DS

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    I am talking about https://forums.libretro.com/t/citra-and-redream-cores-not-being-updated-on-buildbot/12621/10 . I still can't get it to work for some reason. If the build bot gets fixed, then I'll be happy! :D But in the meantime, Windows users get Citra version a0a4d69 from the Online Updater.
    ( WHICH IS FROM 27TH OF AUGUST! :wtf: ) I am not going to make a Linux virtual machine just for the 3DS Libretro core. This is also a problem if I want to contribute to Citra Libretro, as I don't know what has been fixed or not. *cough cough* high pitched sound *cough cough* https://github.com/libretro/citra/issues/17 or https://github.com/libretro/citra/issues/16 or https://github.com/libretro/citra/issues/15
     
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  13. FIXMY3DS

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    Cool that you upgraded Citra Libretro :D In short, can we have the build-bot fixed for Windows?
     
  14. jselby

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    I don't run the buildbot - that is the LibRetro team.
     
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