Hacking 3DS decapping fundraising topic.

[stanlywang]

Is there any guide on how to upload funds on skrill? Or how to used my credit card as payment method?
It keep saying "We are currently working on allowing uploads into your wallet."

 

[chocoboner]

Too bad reverse engineering projects are against kickstarter rules. Otherwise this be finished already.

it's interesting that it is. I mean, reverse engineering is perfectly legal under US law(where kickstarter is presumably located), right?

 

[chartube12]

it's interesting that it is. I mean, reverse engineering is perfectly legal under US law(where kickstarter is presumably located), right?

Correct. presumably the rule is to keep people from reverse engineering products not sold in the US and selling their own versions.

 

[Rydian]

Or they likely just don't want some big names to get pissed at them. Big names can legally find all sorts of ways to Fuck Your Shit™, look at Nintendo getting Paypal to shut down the accounts of sites that sell flash carts for an alarming example.

 

[doorbell8423]

Why does this guy who is collecting money for 3DS decapping, does not open PayPal account? it's much easyer to send money via PayPal and a lot of people has PayPal account​

 

[LTK]

Why does this guy who is collecting money for 3DS decapping, does not open PayPal account? it's much easyer to send money via PayPal and a lot of people has PayPal account​

It might be because of people retracting donations since it's so easy on paypal, or it could be because paypal wouldn't allow donations for reverse engineering.

 

[porkiewpyne]

Why does this guy who is collecting money for 3DS decapping, does not open PayPal account? it's much easyer to send money via PayPal and a lot of people has PayPal account​

I think they did. But then Paypal froze the account.

PS: And seriously, why do you always do weird stuff with your text formatting? Last time it's centred. Now, it's right-aligned. :\

 

[DiabloStorm]

Why does this guy who is collecting money for 3DS decapping, does not open PayPal account? it's much easyer to send money via PayPal and a lot of people has PayPal account​

Read from the beginning of the thread if you want the explanation on that.

 

[Rydian]

Why does this guy who is collecting money for 3DS decapping, does not open PayPal account? it's much easyer to send money via PayPal and a lot of people has PayPal account​

They did. Paypal took the money and froze his account because they claimed it was against the Paypal rules.

 

[doorbell8423]

They did. Paypal took the money and froze his account because they claimed it was against the Paypal rules.

PayPal took the money?? they can do that?? for what..that just doesnt sounds right..they could just freez account.... Dx

PS: And seriously, why do you always do weird stuff with your text formatting? Last time it's centred. Now, it's right-aligned. :\

Don't know..i guess i just like to play ^^

 

[Rydian]

PayPal took the money?? they can do that?? for what..that just doesnt sounds right..they could just freez account.... Dx

Paypal's not a bank, so they're not under the same rules and regulations. They've also frozen the accounts of the people who run shops that sell flash carts and such. Paypal is not a friend of the homebrew scene at all.

They claim that the accounts are just frozen "for inspection" or something, but seeing as they refuse to give the money back (for 6 months I think) and don't appear to actually involve the police... but hey, it's in their terms of service and they're not a bank so so far they haven't gotten hit for it.

 

[DiabloStorm]

Paypal's not a bank, so they're not under the same rules and regulations. They've also frozen the accounts of the people who run shops that sell flash carts and such. Paypal is not a friend of the homebrew scene at all.

They claim that the accounts are just frozen "for inspection" or something, but seeing as they refuse to give the money back (for 6 months I think) and don't appear to actually involve the police... but hey, it's in their terms of service and they're not a bank so so far they haven't gotten hit for it.

Paypal overall is just a complete pile of shit.

 

[chartube12]

It is because paypal charges for money transfers between people's paypal accounts for non-business transactions unless the money is given as a gift. Too money donation were given as a gift. Paypal saw them receiving that many gifts from different accounts as them abusive the system. Had they set up a proper donation channel (idk if paypal has one) they may have been fine and still been able in accepting paypal.

 

[Pleng]

Paypal's not a bank, so they're not under the same rules and regulations. They've also frozen the accounts of the people who run shops that sell flash carts and such. Paypal is not a friend of the homebrew scene at all.

They claim that the accounts are just frozen "for inspection" or something, but seeing as they refuse to give the money back (for 6 months I think) and don't appear to actually involve the police... but hey, it's in their terms of service and they're not a bank so so far they haven't gotten hit for it.

Yes, because it is totally valid to summarise freezing an account for six months and then releasing the money as

They did. Paypal took the money and froze his account because....

 

[Rydian]

Yes, because it is totally valid to summarise freezing an account for six months and then releasing the money as

I really don't see how you can sit here and try to defend them.

If you give somebody money and tell them to use it to buy something for you, and instead they both refuse to buy the item and give you your money back, they have taken your money. You have suffered a net loss by their hands, due to their decided actions. In the same vein, if you trust a third-party to deliver you payment for goods, and the third-party decides to keep the money for themselves, you have suffered a net loss by their hands.

Paypal is not a bank, nor is it an entity in the legal system. It is a subsidiary of eBay. What it refers to as "freezing accounts" is NOT something done by order of the police/FBi/courts like you'd normally think of. It is their own decision. Them giving it back six months later doesn't make the act of freezing it for six months in the first place go away. After all, if somebody takes a loaf of bread from me and then gives me another one six months later, that doesn't mean they never took my loaf to begin with. Now, what Paypal is doing specifically is not illegal because it's in the ToS... but that doesn't make it right.

To get back to the original point, Paypal has already shown it's hand by freezing the account involved in this project, so there's no way you can sit here and defend the choice when they're already put a wrench into these exact plans.

 

[Pleng]

To get back to the original point, Paypal has already shown it's hand by freezing the account involved in this project, so there's no way you can sit here and defend the choice when they're already put a wrench into these exact plans.

I'm not defending their choice. I'm just pointing out that saying PayPal "took their money" is both sensationalist and factually incorrect. As I said earlier in the thread, there's plenty of reasons to justifiably criticize PayPal... therefore no need to make stuff up.

 

[Rydian]

I'm not defending their choice. I'm just pointing out that saying PayPal "took their money" is both sensationalist and factually incorrect. As I said earlier in the thread, there's plenty of reasons to justifiably criticize PayPal... therefore no need to make stuff up.

Sensationalist maybe. Factually-incorrect, no.

They have his money and actively refuse to give it back.

 

[Pleng]

Sensationalist maybe. Factually-incorrect, no.

They have his money and actively refuse to give it back.

Except they will give it back after a predetermined period. That's withholding, not taking.

 

[Rydian]

Except they will give it back after a predetermined period. That's withholding, not taking.

And if I give somebody I trusted $50 and tell them to go get me something at a store with the understanding that they would.. they return without the item and refuse to give my my money back for six months because they felt like it. But they're just "withholding".

Something about that seem wrong? No?

 

[DaniPoo]

Im sure this must be in "the terms you never read but still agree to"