Puberty-Blockers, Vision Loss & Closed Gender Identity Clinic for Children (Brandon Showalter; Mark Reynolds; ZeroHedge) [Three Articles]

CraddaPoosta · Aug 18, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
Trick question, there is no correct answer because every view on this is valid; I understand the preference angle but I also think it'd be a little weird for someone to say they don't ever wanna have sex with a black person. It's too messy of a question, be it trans, racial, or whatever to truly say it is or isn't discriminatory imo, it would depend on the individual's reasoning for such.

On the whole though I have already expressed that genital preference is a valid thing prior in this thread. So if someone doesn't want to have sex with someone who has a penis because they don't like penises, that's fine. It just doesn't mean the person they're turning down is a man.

The REASON that a straight male would turn down a man who had mutilated his penis and thinks he is a girl is because that set of mutilated genitals is STILL a penis.

A lot of people do not find breast implants attractive, for a lot of different reasons. It's simply not the real thing, no matter what you say. It's elective surgery that mutilates the body, and for some folks, that is a turn-off.

If I turn down Caitlyn Jenner, I am turning down a man who went through a voluntary surgery to change the way his penis looks. I might have mentioned this before, but I am not a fan of the man gland.

That does not make me a bigot.

sombrerosonic · Aug 18, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
Trick question, there is no correct answer because every view on this is valid; I understand the preference angle but I also think it'd be a little weird for someone to say they don't ever wanna have sex with a black person. It's too messy of a question, be it trans, racial, or whatever to truly say it is or isn't discriminatory imo, it would depend on the individual's reasoning for such.

On the whole though I have already expressed that genital preference is a valid thing prior in this thread. So if someone doesn't want to have sex with someone who has a penis because they don't like penises, that's fine. It just doesn't mean the person they're turning down is a man.

Understandable, reason i asked is due to this, it all boil's down to Preference.

We can all prefer who we want, but if you dont mind someone but dont want to have sex with them, is it X-phobic?

Also sorry for people poking fun at you for my comment.

Dark_Ansem · Aug 18, 2022

HalfScoper said:
this thread ain't worth any more of my time.

Not that your time was worth anything to begin with

LainaGabranth · Aug 18, 2022

sombrerosonic said:
Understandable, reason i asked is due to this, it all boil's down to Preference.

We can all prefer who we want, but if you dont mind someone but dont want to have sex with them, is it X-phobic?

Also sorry for people poking fun at you for my comment.

Nah it's all good, out of the usual righties on this you seem pretty rational on the subject. Wouldn't mind a real discussion sometime.

No, I don't think preference is inherently discriminatory, it's the reasons why behind them that can make that. There's a difference for example between "I don't find this skin color as attractive" (as weird as that still sounds imo) and "This skin color would make the downfall of my entire race and civilization," an actual opinion you can find from some users here.

HalfScoper · Aug 18, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
lol

God forbid me reloading the page for new reponses when I am already here, you answer within a minute so I really don't have to give two shits about someone literally waiting for someone else to respond

Dark_Ansem said:
Not that your time was worth anything to begin with

Again nothing of value added, I at least tried to reply to the deluded nonsense that Laina was propagating.
Finally gonna unwatch this cesspool of entitled Americans and screeching UK island apes.

LainaGabranth · Aug 18, 2022

Neo Draven said:
The REASON that a straight male would turn down a man who had mutilated his penis and thinks he is a girl is because that set of mutilated genitals is STILL a penis.

A lot of people do not find breast implants attractive, for a lot of different reasons. It's simply not the real thing, no matter what you say. It's elective surgery that mutilates the body, and for some folks, that is a turn-off.

If I turn down Caitlyn Jenner, I am turning down a man who went through a voluntary surgery to change the way his penis looks. I might have mentioned this before, but I am not a fan of the man gland.

That does not make me a bigot.

why do you keep trying to declare your transphobia like it's a brave stance? You aren't being brave by publically shitting your pants LMAO

HalfScoper said:
God forbid me reloading the page when I am already here

"last reply + 2" huh?

Sheimi · Aug 18, 2022

Creamu said:
So a child given puberty blockers can reproduce later in life if the treatment is continued?

Once you stop taking puberty blockers, it can take some time for the fertility to return. But don't assume it is a 100% birth control. You can still get pregnant.

CraddaPoosta · Aug 18, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
why do you keep trying to declare your transphobia like it's a brave stance? You aren't being brave by publically shitting your pants LMAO

"last reply + 2" huh?

I have asked you repeatedly, sir; WHERE IS THE FEAR?

You know you have no counter-argument, so you fall back on "DURRR, YUR A TRUMP LOVING RACIST BIGOT TRANSPHOBE!"

All the while refusing to answer the simple questions posed to you.

There is no fear being demonstrated by a man who does not like penis, refusing to accept how you "identify" as your actual gender, when your genitals tell the truth.

Surgery cannot change your gender. It can only mutilate your genitals. A post-op "T" individual still has their original, newly mangled, genitals.

LainaGabranth · Aug 18, 2022

Neo Draven said:
"DURRR, YUR A TRUMP LOVING RACIST BIGOT TRANSPHOBE!"

who mentioned trump in this thread?? the fuck?????

I think you're not just a transphobe, maybe you're irrationally afraid of staying on topic too :^)

sombrerosonic · Aug 18, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
Nah it's all good, out of the usual righties on this you seem pretty rational on the subject. Wouldn't mind a real discussion sometime.

No, I don't think preference is inherently discriminatory, it's the reasons why behind them that can make that. There's a difference for example between "I don't find this skin color as attractive" (as weird as that still sounds imo) and "This skin color would make the downfall of my entire race and civilization," an actual opinion you can find from some users here.

Wouldn't mind a discussion as well, u usually prefer liking both sides for how they are and seeing issues in both of them, rn im pointing neural most of the time, nice talking to you. If you want discord in the siggy.

CraddaPoosta · Aug 18, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
who mentioned trump in this thread?? the fuck?????

I think you're not just a transphobe, maybe you're irrationally afraid of staying on topic too :^)

Nah. We see you on all of the other topics, too. Any time someone actually starts making sense, you turtle up, accuse them of being a far-right conservative or a Trump lover, and bust out the tried-and-true accusations of homophobica, transphobia and bigotry.

It's just part of what people who aren't very good at logical debate do. Ad hominem is an easy out. I COULD insult you, but I try not to. I'd rather discuss the topic. Which relates to gender identity. Which is what you and I are discussing.

I argue that self-identification isn't based on reality, nor do you even pretend that it is. Elizabeth Warren identifies as Cherokee, for example. The Cherokee Nation has absolutely disavowed her. Rachel Dolezal identifies as a black woman. She is provably not black.

In both instances, both of these women were lambasted for "self-identifying" as something they could never actually be. Since YOU brought up a comparison between not being attracted to a specific race, and not being attracted to a specific set of genitals, please tell me how this is different.

Should we accept either woman as the race they identify as, even though they are ABSOLUTELY NOT that race, and could never actually BE that race?

Should we accept a person who uses hormone blockers and conversion therapy to mutilate and chemically alter themselves as something they can never actually be?

Your profile claims that you are female. You also claim to be 53 years old, so you could be SUPER clever and put your date of birth as 4/20 of 1969. Oh, so clever. So, you "identify" as a 53-year-old woman?

If you are lying about that, it stands to reason that other people would also question your honesty in other regards. You can no more identify as being an age that you are not than you can a race that you are not than you can a gender that you are not.

I'd appreciate an intelligent answer.

tabzer · Aug 18, 2022

Neo Draven said:
Nah. We see you on all of the other topics, too. Any time someone actually starts making sense, you turtle up, accuse them of being a far-right conservative or a Trump lover, and bust out the tried-and-true accusations of homophobica, transphobia and bigotry.

It's just part of what people who aren't very good at logical debate do. Ad hominem is an easy out. I COULD insult you, but I try not to. I'd rather discuss the topic. Which relates to gender identity. Which is what you and I are discussing.

I argue that self-identification isn't based on reality, nor do you even pretend that it is. Elizabeth Warren identifies as Cherokee, for example. The Cherokee Nation has absolutely disavowed her. Rachel Dolezal identifies as a black woman. She is provably not black.

In both instances, both of these women were lambasted for "self-identifying" as something they could never actually be. Since YOU brought up a comparison between not being attracted to a specific race, and not being attracted to a specific set of genitals, please tell me how this is different.

Should we accept either woman as the race they identify as, even though they are ABSOLUTELY NOT that race, and could never actually BE that race?

Should we accept a person who uses hormone blockers and conversion therapy to mutilate and chemically alter themselves as something they can never actually be?

I'd appreciate an intelligent answer.

I thought it is pretty clear that sex does not equal gender to this person. So I wonder if they are a victim of SRS, or if they pity people who are victim of SRS for the sake of "affirming" their gender in a such a misguided (trans-confused) way.

Seems like they don't want to answer and would rather claim I'm illiterate.

CraddaPoosta · Aug 18, 2022

tabzer said:
I thought it is pretty clear that sex does not equal gender to this person. So I wonder if they are a victim of SRS, or if they pity people who are victim of SRS for the sake of "affirming" their gender in a such a misguided (trans-confused) way.

Seems like they don't want to answer and would rather claim I'm illiterate.

Anyone who asks him a valid question is a transphobe. I feel like I am making perfect sense.

tabzer · Aug 18, 2022

Neo Draven said:
Anyone who asks him a valid question is a transphobe. I feel like I am making perfect sense.

You must be tolerant of me, not the other way around.

CraddaPoosta · Aug 18, 2022

tabzer said:
You must be tolerant of me, not the other way around.

The way I have always looked at it is that I do not CARE what you identify as. Go be the prettiest princess on the block, if you so choose. Chop off that winkie and slap some silicone on your chest. Just don't expect me to call you 'ma'am', with your mutilated penis. Don't expect me to consider you a woman, or to want sexytimes with you. Go do YOU, and leave me alone.

I will do me, and leave you alone. Might laugh at you for thinking that you're a girl, but no more maliciously than I would laugh at someone with a lame haircut or a dude with skinny jeans. Personal preference isn't bigotry. The greatest bigots are the ones who can't accept themselves as what they were born as, but want to FORCE you to accept them as their fantasy, and if you won't, you deserve to be attacked and shamed.

You do you. I'll do me. That's fair for all. You can be a princess. I will still call you 'sir'.

sombrerosonic · Aug 18, 2022

Huh, seem you chased him away.....

tabzer · Aug 18, 2022

Neo Draven said:
The way I have always looked at it is that I do not CARE what you identify as. Go be the prettiest princess on the block, if you so choose. Chop off that winkie and slap some silicone on your chest. Just don't expect me to call you 'ma'am', with your mutilated penis. Don't expect me to consider you a woman, or to want sexytimes with you. Go do YOU, and leave me alone.

I will do me, and leave you alone. Might laugh at you for thinking that you're a girl, but no more maliciously than I would laugh at someone with a lame haircut or a dude with skinny jeans. Personal preference isn't bigotry. The greatest bigots are the ones who can't accept themselves as what they were born as, but want to FORCE you to accept them as their fantasy, and if you won't, you deserve to be attacked and shamed.

You do you. I'll do me. That's fair for all. You can be a princess. I will still call you 'sir'.

If the concept of gender is too confusing or too much in the periphery, I would prefer to call them by name, them, or not at all. That being said, person reads as an effeminate male trying to illicit attention that they think a woman would/should get. I think it's pathetic trying to catfish people. There are many people who are interested in that sort of thing. Why try to trick people into buying it?

LainaGabranth · Aug 18, 2022

Neo Draven said:
Nah. We see you on all of the other topics, too. Any time someone actually starts making sense, you turtle up, accuse them of being a far-right conservative or a Trump lover, and bust out the tried-and-true accusations of homophobica, transphobia and bigotry.

It's just part of what people who aren't very good at logical debate do. Ad hominem is an easy out. I COULD insult you, but I try not to. I'd rather discuss the topic. Which relates to gender identity. Which is what you and I are discussing.

I argue that self-identification isn't based on reality, nor do you even pretend that it is. Elizabeth Warren identifies as Cherokee, for example. The Cherokee Nation has absolutely disavowed her. Rachel Dolezal identifies as a black woman. She is provably not black.

In both instances, both of these women were lambasted for "self-identifying" as something they could never actually be. Since YOU brought up a comparison between not being attracted to a specific race, and not being attracted to a specific set of genitals, please tell me how this is different.

Should we accept either woman as the race they identify as, even though they are ABSOLUTELY NOT that race, and could never actually BE that race?

Should we accept a person who uses hormone blockers and conversion therapy to mutilate and chemically alter themselves as something they can never actually be?

Your profile claims that you are female. You also claim to be 53 years old, so you could be SUPER clever and put your date of birth as 4/20 of 1969. Oh, so clever. So, you "identify" as a 53-year-old woman?

If you are lying about that, it stands to reason that other people would also question your honesty in other regards. You can no more identify as being an age that you are not than you can a race that you are not than you can a gender that you are not.

I'd appreciate an intelligent answer.

Be honest, is this a real persecution complex if yours performative as a parody of transphobia at large or are you just actually this unhinged?

I don't accuse someone of being a Trump supporter unless they rhetorically argue positions of his or support his positions. It's a set criteria. When I call people like UDR a racist, it is because he's arguing racist positions like racial biological essentialism, and so on.

So, like the above examples, the reason I call you a transphobe specifically is because you exhibit the most ridiculous persecution complex over your genital fixation. Idk man, it seems creepy and weird to boil down people to just their sex organs rather than their identities themselves. A woman isn't just a vagina, but if you argue this position is false (and you have to by necessity, otherwise transwomen who've had SRS are women) [they are btw] then you're left without anything to larp with.

So your position hinges upon logically inconsistent appeals to arbitrary parts of nature. It's not chromosomes, it's not genitals, it's not organs or anything of the sort that determine gender identity, because gender is something we, not organs or our DNA, assign.

LainaGabranth · Aug 18, 2022

sombrerosonic said:
Huh, seem you chased him away.....

IT jobs are a bitch, that's all I'll say. Starting to see why Catboy hates Snapd so much now.

CraddaPoosta · Aug 18, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
Be honest, is this a real persecution complex if yours performative as a parody of transphobia at large or are you just actually this unhinged?

I don't accuse someone of being a Trump supporter unless they rhetorically argue positions of his or support his positions. It's a set criteria. When I call people like UDR a racist, it is because he's arguing racist positions like racial biological essentialism, and so on.

So, like the above examples, the reason I call you a transphobe specifically is because you exhibit the most ridiculous persecution complex over your genital fixation. Idk man, it seems creepy and weird to boil down people to just their sex organs rather than their identities themselves. A woman isn't just a vagina, but if you argue this position is false (and you have to by necessity, otherwise transwomen who've had SRS are women) [they are btw] then you're left without anything to larp with.

So your position hinges upon logically inconsistent appeals to arbitrary parts of nature. It's not chromosomes, it's not genitals, it's not organs or anything of the sort that determine gender identity, because gender is something we, not organs or our DNA, assign.

Repeating yourself over and over will not magically make me "transphobic", especially when I have asked you multiple, MULTIPLE times to show me where I have demonstrated any irrational fear of ANYONE. Yet you keep trying the same buzzword, over and over and over. It isn't having any effect on me, brother. You have to show me where the fear is for that to stick.

Persecution complex? I never said I was persecuted. I asked why YOU cannot accept that a man who does not like penis should not be called transphobic for not wanting to have sex with a man who has a penis that he mutilated so it kinda, KINDA resembles a vagina, but is still a penis.

When it comes to sexual attraction, YES SIR, that is definitely boiled down to genitals. That's... kind of how that works.

I feel like I have said this before, but how you SELF-IDENTIFY has no bearing on REALITY. See the arguments presented about Warren and Delozal, which you conveniently ignored. You can identify your penis as a vagina all you want, but you are still only ever going to be male. And it's not phobic of me to refuse to accept your FALSE IDENTITY as REALITY.

Gender is absolutely assigned by chromosomes and genitals. Gender IDENTITY is a new social construct used by liberal leftists as a cudgel to bash other people with, when they run out of arguments.

A penis is still never going to be a vagina, and I am not wrong or bigoted for knowing this fact.

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