Cheats that require Buttons dont work

jboz · May 18, 2022

Had to create an acc after years with this mistery.

Back in 2010 had an R4 GOLD that sudendly die, all things worked before him dying.

Now with a R4I3D 2016, wood firmware, cheats that require button pressing simple dont work or just stay on forever.

Examples,
"Full HP" cheat always let the HP full, right

"Press L for points not to decrease, press R to set points to 0" , while on points dont decrease always dont matter what you press

"R+up to advance time", while on pressing buttons do nothing

Anyone have any insight on why this happen and how to fix if possible?

FAST6191 · May 18, 2022

Wood firmware should have a reasonable cheat engine. If it was whatever was cobbled together from something for a third rate flash cart firmware then it might be an issue but Wood was made by people that very much knew what they were doing there.

Can we see the cheats? The main thing I might think was happening was the terminator for the loop (most button press cheats will once a frame check to see if the button is pressed and then go from there which means there will be the check, the payload and the terminator for the loop) was not working but that would be odd.

jboz · May 18, 2022

Let me give examples:

Shin megami tensei : devil survivor 1

Unwind the time
This just enable to to turn back time when we click in game the skip time button, so this work normally

Hold R Stats point never Decrease, Hold L Stats Point 0
This never let the points decrease, dont matter if i press R or L

Havest Moon: Sunshine Islands

Watering can always Full
its simple and works

Fast Foward Time (select + R)
Rewind time (Select + L)
These dont work at all

FAST6191 · May 18, 2022

I meant the codes associated with them (will probably look like a long string of numbers and letters A through F
https://doc.kodewerx.org/hacking_nds.html ). If we can't test the codes on something outside then it gets to eliminate causes of problems.

jboz · May 18, 2022

Sorry for making you wait, thanks for making me learning a bunch of new stuff, had to get around to find how to get this out of the usrcheat.dat

Shin megami tensei : devil survivor 1
Unwind the time
02070598 E3A06C02
0207059C E286601C
020705B8 EA000003
02072378 E3A01C02
0207237C E281101C

Hold R Stats point never Decrease, Hold L Stats Point 0
020F3AB0 E2400001
94000130 FEFF0000
020F3AB0 E2400000
D0000000 00000000
94000130 FDFF0000
020F3AB0 E3A00000
D0000000 00000000

Havest Moon: Sunshine Islands
Watering can always Full
220DC0F5 000000FF

Fast Foward Time (select + R)
94000130 FEFB0000
74000100 FF00000C
D9000000 020DBE50
D4000000 00000001
D6000000 020DBE50
D2000000 00000000

Rewind time (Select + L)
94000130 FDFB0000
74000100 FF00000C
D9000000 020DBE50
D4000000 FFFFFFFE
D6000000 020DBE50
D2000000 00000000

FAST6191 · May 19, 2022

Your shoulder buttons do work right? They are usually the first buttons to go on any GBA-DS family device. Also checking you are using the right region for it (those cheats look to be for the North American versions of the Shin Megami game and )

Anyway those look like reasonable cheats on the face of them but I will have to drill down deeper later this evening (if someone else does not get there first).

jboz · May 19, 2022

Just tested the shoulder buttons because you can never be too sure, luckly i have one of those early sturdy models, this bad boy must be getting 20 years old soon.

About region, usrcheat.dat had all regions, i remember i got a pokemon whit(USA) and another (EU) for my ex so we could play on different saves and her game had different cheats.

Thanks for all the help, i got this new r4 long ago(maybe 2016) , i dont even need a fix i just need to understand whats happening because it always drove me crazy, everytime i try to get back to the DS i update the cheat database and the firmware and never got it working like de old R4, it drives me crazy everytime

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