Hacking Which ps4 to buy?

systemed · Jul 28, 2021

Hi,
I'm new to ps4 hack. I'd like to buy a used one to jailbreak and play offline.
I've found one ps4 pro on 7.02 and a slim one on 5.55 at the same price: 200eur.
In one case I have better hardware with average firmware and in the other average hardware with better firmware.
Which one is the best buy for jailbreak?
Thanks!

tabzer · Jul 28, 2021

Of course 5.05 is the "golden firmware" for current state. This will change over time. It seems that 5.55 will need to be updated to 6.72 anyway, and at that point you are going to experience instability.

Keep in mind that the scene is developing. Hacks are going to get better, but your hardware is going to stay the same.

acho · Jul 28, 2021

if you want to play the latest games (Tsushima, TLOU 2, etc), go for the ps4 pro, you will need to update to 7.55 anyway to play them. Those games can use the extra performance.

systemed · Jul 28, 2021

Thanks for replies.
I thought that 6.72 was someway more stable than 7.02. As for the latest games I thought that backport were available.
So if I understand well it would be better a pro with newer firmware and wait for more stable hack.
I'm scared by some posts that say that sometimes jailbreak take 30mins to achieve on the 7.xx. That makes it unusable to me.

tabzer · Jul 28, 2021

As of 6 days ago, it has become more reliable.

Once you get it working, sleep mode works afaik.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ps4homebrew/comments/op7e24/new_ps4_75x_jb_improvement_has_been_issued_by/

godreborn · Jul 28, 2021

I've heard that the new improvements don't increase reliability by much, so you may still have issues getting the system to run the exploit. yeah, rest mode is supposed to help a lot. I've never personally had a lot of luck with it on 5.05. though, it's not nearly as needed there as it is on 7.5x. do not update to 7.51, just go straight to 7.55 as 7.51 has lots of issues.

Hayato213 · Jul 28, 2021

The lower the firmware the better in term of exploit, 5.05 is the golden firmware as it being exploited for over two years. Before you buy you need to understand how exploit work, keep in mind it is not a jailbreak, just an exploit that allow you access to debug menu giving you access to install and run game on fake package format, so it ain't CFW.

godreborn · Jul 28, 2021

once you install all the games you want, make sure to backup the databases in system_data/priv/mms . I've heard of a few people whose database was corrupted after a kernel panic. then, I've heard of about four people where a kp either corrupted or damaged the hdd. that's what makes the exploits frustrating. though, some people have had hundreds of kp's without anything happening.

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@Hayato213 , indeed, it might be better to update to 6.72. it's far more reliable (like 50+%). 5.05 has about 80-90% reliability, so you can still get kp's with both of those firmwares. if that doesn't work out for you, you can always update to another firmware. that's what I'd do: test the lowest firmware first.

Hayato213 · Jul 28, 2021

godreborn said:
once you install all the games you want, make sure to backup the databases in system_data/priv/mms . I've heard of a few people whose database was corrupted after a kernel panic. then, I've heard of about four people where a kp either corrupted or damaged the hdd. that's what makes the exploits frustrating. though, some people have had hundreds of kp's without anything happening.

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@Hayato213 , indeed, it might be better to update to 6.72. it's far more reliable (like 50+%). 5.05 has about 80-90% reliability, so you can still get kp's with both of those firmwares. if that doesn't work out for you, you can always update to another firmware. that's what I'd do: test the lowest firmware first.

My exploitable unit is on 6.72

godreborn · Jul 28, 2021

that, I know.

systemed · Jul 28, 2021

So it's a difficult choice. Better hardware vs more reliable exploit.
How much average time does it takes to successfully exploit a 6.72?
I really don't want a console that takes like 15 min to begin to play with...

godreborn · Jul 28, 2021

systemed said:
So it's a difficult choice. Better hardware vs more reliable exploit.
How much average time does it takes to successfully exploit a 6.72?
I really don't want a console that takes like 15 min to begin to play with...

afaik, it's not that bad, but do expect kp's a lot more often than 5.05.

bbqtool · Jul 28, 2021

I'd get the slim. The difference between the pro and the slim in performance when running PS4 games isn't huge unless anything above 1080p matters to you. If emulation matters, I don't think the difference is huge either. Even if in the future a miracle happens and a complete custom firmware is written-released and allows for downgrading firmwares easily, the slim would be great and a better purchase anyway. Basically, the strengths of the pro aren't really enough.

This guide I wrote might be helpful to get you started if you get the 6.72.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-how-i-made-a-kernel-panic-free-6-72-setup.588532/

PS4 jailbreaking right now is a lot of tinkering around and working out a system of using the exploit that works for you. This is what I did to get it working for me. I love how my setup works now, but I remember when I first started with 6.72 it was incredibly frustrating. At first it felt like the jailbreak only works once every so often without turning off by itself and you'd have to unplug the whole console, rebuild the database etc only to get it to work once.

7.xx jailbreaks work differently again and is a completely different beast. YouTube is a good resource for how jailbreaks work on those firmwares.

Prb · Jul 28, 2021

systemed said:
So it's a difficult choice. Better hardware vs more reliable exploit.
How much average time does it takes to successfully exploit a 6.72?
I really don't want a console that takes like 15 min to begin to play with...

6.72 was pretty poor at first but then the man @Leeful did his magic
it was his v6 menu that changed things then it just got better and better with each version he did until he got to PS-PHIVE which
in my opinion is still the best menu that the ps4 has seen i've seen people with like 150 success to 5 fails
if you want to use goldhen i've got a menu based on leeful's menu's that includes it

remember stability is in this order 5.05 / 6.72 / 7.xx

Just my opinion

systemed · Jul 29, 2021

I'd like to buy the best hardware for the money so if I buy the 7.02 ps4 pro I need only one successful exploit then enable rest mode to get a usable system? Right?
It seems that pairing an ESP card would make the exploit more reliable too.

susi91 · Jul 29, 2021

systemed said:
so if I buy the 7.02 ps4 pro I need only one successful exploit then enable rest mode to get a usable system? Right?

Yes, thats it.

systemed said:
It seems that pairing an ESP card would make the exploit more reliable too.

No, not needed at all, browser or userguide cache works the same

arfgh · Jul 29, 2021

i also consider 6.72 as 'golden firmware'. At least on my ps4 pro, and using the old kernel exploit by my own way, i never end with Kernel panics, and less if i am not messing with the ps4 file estructure.

Anyways, nobody have said yet the advanges or changes on the new 6.72 kernel exploit....

And about 7.55, just the webkit exploit, and the own kernel exploit... both are horrible. The kernel panic will be riding with you yes or yes on that firmware.... I hope that is possible to evolve these exploits....

bbqtool · Jul 30, 2021

Do not fall for this meme. Browser cache is vastly inferior to userguide. Userguide doesn't use as much of the total memory needed to jailbreak your system, browser cache uses it way less efficiently. It's just easier to set up. This is really fucking important to know. You will need to clear your cache and delete cookies every couple of days (with less and less reliability every time you use it might I add) if you just use your browser, userguide does not need this. The ESP is worth it because it's a couple of dollars and you can install any menu you want easily into your userguide by just flashing a different .bin file to it and connecting to your ESP device on the PS4 and there are really good menus for the userguide made by people like @Prb. It's literally just plugging a USB cable into your computer, clicking 3 buttons and connecting to an IP address on your PS4 for infinitely less frustration.

KiiWii · Jul 30, 2021

acho said:
if you want to play the latest games (Tsushima, TLOU 2, etc), go for the ps4 pro, you will need to update to 7.55 anyway to play them. Those games can use the extra performance.

Not true. Back Ports.

5.05 can play all of those games.

I would say the 6.72 option is the lesser of two evils, but the pro on 7.02 is tempting…

systemed · Jul 30, 2021

Thanks for replies!
I talk about 6.72 but the slim is on 5.55. Any interest in keeping this firmware in the hope of a new exploit. Why 5.55 isn't compatible with 6.72 exploit?

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