Bloomberg interview reveals Microsoft tried to buy Nintendo once, and got laughed out of the meeting

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These days, Microsoft is buying up smaller gaming studios at a rapid pace, adding names like Obsidian, Bethesda, Mojang, Double Fine, and many more to the Xbox brand. As the original Xbox system turns 20 years old this year, Bloomberg published an article featuring interviews and information about the early days of the system. revealing that Microsoft attempted to buy four major game studios back in the early 2000s, all of which ended in failure. The first company they went after was Electronic Arts, who quickly dismissed them. They also attempted to acquire Midway Games and Square Enix, but according to Bob Mcbreen, who worked at Xbox in business development at the time, they didn't offer enough money.

The biggest acquisition they tried to make, though, was Nintendo. Kevin Bachus, the former director of third-party relations, mentions he went to Nintendo in order to talk about a buyout. Microsoft's position was that they could create more powerful hardware than Nintendo could which would make them more competitive with Sony's PlayStation 2, while Nintendo knew how to make games incredibly well. However, Nintendo did not agree, so much to the point that Bachus says he was laughed at by the entirety of the company, ending any further discussions.

BACHUS Steve made us go meet with Nintendo to see if they would consider being acquired. They just laughed their asses off. Like, imagine an hour of somebody just laughing at you. That was kind of how that meeting went.

MCBREEN We actually had Nintendo in our building in January 2000 to work through the details of a joint venture where we gave them all the technical specs of the Xbox. The pitch was their hardware stunk, and compared to Sony PlayStation, it did. So the idea was, “Listen, you’re much better at the game portions of it with Mario and all that stuff. Why don’t you let us take care of the hardware?” But it didn’t work out.

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I agree with some of your points, but I disagree with the last part. Microsoft are pushing subscriptions, like all companies have been this last decade. They want your cash and they Don't want to give you anything in return.

Ultimately they want all the control and huge profits to boot, I'm against subscriptions, but unfortunately I'm not the majority.

The same reason the likes of Apple, Facebook etc can commit illegal acts, piss in the face of their customers, then the customers lap it up and beg for more.

Microsoft should create brilliant games, I wish they would, but their new strategy doesn't require it really. The want to be the portal others go through.

Think "Netflix of gaming", as everyone keeps throw around, but mostly think of Valve. This is what Microsoft want, complete control of the sector (like they once had with Windows/ PC).

Cloud is "the next big thing", gaming is still in it's infancy, despite how much money is in the sector, Microsoft offer a service nobody else comes close to currently, I wonder what will happen in time though. I suspect prices to creep up dramatically.
you can say what you want but the last generation just showed microsoft doesnt want to make games, they just buy studios and hopefully they make decent games, they arent as invested as developing games as they are on infrastructures, and in the end fans will go to where the games are, sure they have gamepasses and whatnot but 99% of their games will appear on ps5/pc which makes someone think, why would i own an xbox? just makes no sence, you get a ps5 and then play the very few xbox exclsuives on pc even if your pc isnt strong enough you can just stream them.

My entire point is the xbox consoles are becoming redundant, to a point it makes no reason whatsoever to own one, your better off with ps5 for its exclusives and multiplatform games and then any shity pc or phone you can just use xcloud and play the rare halo/gear/forza that they releases every so years.

So yeah i don't see Xbox sticking around for much time, they are turning like you said into valve, where they stopped making games and just make money of others games on their distribution platforms, which shows they arent much inspired to make games themselves.
 

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Are you biased as a Sony fan (not intended as an insult, just your own points seem to contradict themselves).

"the xbox consoles are becoming redundant",

Why do you think things are being pushed toward cloud subscriptions?

"they have gamepasses and whatnot but 99% of their games will appear on ps5/pc"

Exactly, so you can buy all of those games at £60 a pop, or have them on one subscription which is much cheaper (I know, you don't own them......).

It also brings about a point I was supposed to make regarding Microsoft trying to be Valve. They couldn't, no matter what they tried, take Valve on. All pc side combined, couldn't combat Valve.

What Microsoft are doing is uniting all sides of their gaming sector, rather than fighting against themselves, they are using pc games as a small bonus for Xbox, but more importantly, they're using the strength if Xbox to muscle into the pc market.

They've made more headway this last 2 years than they have the previous 10-15.

On the topic of games, I don't think there are any first party Microsoft games I actually like. I don't like the last few Halo games and I can't stand the blandness or linearity of Gears if War.

Some if the small ips aren't too bad, but they are far from industry leading.

Microsoft seem to be adopting a value fir money proposition, until they can get their studios pumping out quality games (if they finally can).
 

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The problem with Nintendo is they don't compensate gamers who has been with them for over 10 years. If you are fresh to Nintendo then the switch is going to be a newer experience but for older players it's kinda of a "been there and done that" Nothing wrong with ports but the majority of the switch releases has been ports so imagine how the older players are feeling. If Nintendo wasn't a family company they probably would have went bankrupt by now but just like Disney the kids will always keep them in business.

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The problem is when a series goes on for so long you will get the division within the gaming community. Take Pokémon SW/SH for example newer gamers will say that was a good game but older gamers would say that was a very bad game. Nintendo will cater to the newer gamers more because most of the revenue is coming in from newer gamers versus older ones. Take a look at GTA V if they wasn't getting revenue from GTA Online we would have been had 3 new GTA games versus them keeping on milking GTA V. For Nintendo $$$ is more important than innovation so nothing is wrong with people enjoying the big 3 it is just the big 3 constantly is being remade and remastered just to get $$$ from the newer gamers leaving the older gamers wondering when will there be a BOTW 2 and etc...etc..

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You are right I have no idea what is instore. My personal opinion about the switch it is a good device the price is a decent price but the lack of creativity is hurting the device. Nintendo is like a parent it is living out the Wii U dreams into the switch. Ports is not a problem but charging full price for ports and barely providing newer content is the problem. Again aslong as the revenue comes in they will continue to do the same thing.

I rather Nintendo made a dock that supported Wii U disks versus forcing me to buy them again or at least transfer over Wii U digital games to the switch. They should have just made the Switch BC with the Wii U but then again it is more profitable to sell you the game again versus making it BC.

Every company will do it as long as their game can generate more money,
i understand your side but it's still a business in the end.
 
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Are you biased as a Sony fan (not intended as an insult, just your own points seem to contradict themselves).

"the xbox consoles are becoming redundant",

Why do you think things are being pushed toward cloud subscriptions?

"they have gamepasses and whatnot but 99% of their games will appear on ps5/pc"

Exactly, so you can buy all of those games at £60 a pop, or have them on one subscription which is much cheaper (I know, you don't own them......).

It also brings about a point I was supposed to make regarding Microsoft trying to be Valve. They couldn't, no matter what they tried, take Valve on. All pc side combined, couldn't combat Valve.

What Microsoft are doing is uniting all sides of their gaming sector, rather than fighting against themselves, they are using pc games as a small bonus for Xbox, but more importantly, they're using the strength if Xbox to muscle into the pc market.

They've made more headway this last 2 years than they have the previous 10-15.

On the topic of games, I don't think there are any first party Microsoft games I actually like. I don't like the last few Halo games and I can't stand the blandness or linearity of Gears if War.

Some if the small ips aren't too bad, but they are far from industry leading.

Microsoft seem to be adopting a value fir money proposition, until they can get their studios pumping out quality games (if they finally can).
first im not a sony fan lol if at all i would be a nintendo fan.
i have all nintendo consoles
sony ps2-ps4
xbox-xbox360

imo the xbox one was when xbox gave up, the original xbox and xbox360 have so much quality exclusives left and right, but i never owned an xbox one and i dont know if i will, i see their line up and im like i had a ps4 so nothing interesting came to xbox one on an entire generation.

Series X so far seems to follow the One steps, where nothing of interest gets announced that doesnt come out on the competition too and all the multi-platform titles are also on ps5(which i dont own yet, some day maybe)

so yeah the Xbox brand in general was a huge disappointment for me i love the original and the 360 but the one and so far series X just seem a waste of a console imo
 
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I had every PlayStation, but Xbox One was the first Microsoft Console, without Game Pass, they don't have a viable offering (for people like me, as mentioned, I don't like their first party games).

Hopefully their studios can finally make something worthwhile. With them going to Game Pass, if they are good, it's going to bring big changes.

The Series X is quite buggy at the moment, doesn't work properly with HDR content whilst gaming (it requires setting to be auto but loses and regains signal when quiting games).

Has spells where it won't load games and quits back to Dashboard, etc.
 

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why would i own an xbox? just makes no sence, you get a ps5 and then play the very few xbox exclsuives on pc even if your pc isnt strong enough you can just stream them.

I think you are underestimating Microsoft here. There is no money in the hardware, and we've known this to be true for several generations at this point. What Microsoft is doing is letting Sony subsidize the hardware sales as they usually do, and by selling their games on Sony's platform, Microsoft makes additional revenue because they sold to a customer who may not have bought the game otherwise, and Sony loses revenue because it was a third-party game sold and not one of their first-party games.

The other selling point of the Series X is that its a lot cheaper. With Gamepass, you have access to a huge library of games for less than buying them the traditional way, and Microsoft is happy because they get that big subscription money. Microsoft is taking a different road this generation, and I'm not sure why this thread thinks that's a bad thing.
 

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I think you are underestimating Microsoft here. There is no money in the hardware, and we've known this to be true for several generations at this point. What Microsoft is doing is letting Sony subsidize the hardware sales as they usually do, and by selling their games on Sony's platform, Microsoft makes additional revenue because they sold to a customer who may not have bought the game otherwise, and Sony loses revenue because it was a third-party game sold and not one of their first-party games.

The other selling point of the Series X is that its a lot cheaper. With Gamepass, you have access to a huge library of games for less than buying them the traditional way, and Microsoft is happy because they get that big subscription money. Microsoft is taking a different road this generation, and I'm not sure why this thread thinks that's a bad thing.
you seem to forgot the gamepass isnt just magic, games stay there for awhile and when they get cutted off you cant play them anymore, even if they are isntalled on your xbox, it will pop up saying you have to buy them, so if you didnt play the game while it was on ,you need to buy it regardless. subscriptions are not a good business model for games, because one does not play all the games at their time off release since some games are huge 100+hours content sometimes people play games with years appart, heck im still playing some gens from ps3 era nowadays.

also sony does not loose any money on allowing you to buy Microsoft owned studios games lol, for Microsoft to sell their games on ps5 or anyone they need to pay sony to allow so, so sony actualy makes money selling their games, if sony would loose money selling thrid party games then no consoles would exist lol.
 

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