Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

djpannda · Dec 12, 2020

tabzer said:
”This is not a racial matter.

Lol this a standard “Dog Whistle”. Your claim that it’s not racism.. your a joke.. racism is alive in USA, when Hispanics are being pulled over and the first thing a cop says is “you SPEAKA the English” and ask if you legal.. when a black guy “randomly” get followed by store security . When An Asian person gets harassed in the park, that you don’t belong .. and every time a “real” American tells a minority to speak English in public .

this is a standard racist attack to claim any minority you don’t like is a fake American.

tabzer · Dec 12, 2020

djpannda said:
Lol this a standard “Dog Whistle”. Your claim that it’s not racism.. your a joke.. racism is alive in USA, when Hispanics are being pulled over and the first thing a cop says is “you SPEAKA the English” and ask if you legal.. when a black guy “randomly” get followed by store security . When An Asian person gets harassed in the park, that you don’t belong .. and every time a “real” American tells a minority to speak English in public .

this is a standard racist attack to claim any minority you don’t like is a fake American.

You are acting like a moron.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.694824/gov.uscourts.casd.694824.1.0.pdf

Xzi said:
Ah yes. When all else fails for the Republican party, it's time to fall back on ol' reliable: racism.

Xzi said:
Accusing someone of being born outside of the US with no evidence to back the claim aside from the person's skin color is racism. Period.

tabzer said:
You are being an idiot. It says in the suit:

"Kamala Devi Harris [Plaintiffs are informed and do verily believe, and based thereon allege that her middle name was originally "Iyer" and changed to "Devi"] (hereinafter referred to as "Harris") is the Defendant in this action in her personal capacity and not in any official capacity, and was born on the 20th day of October, 1964 in Oakland, California."

The suit posits that the definition of "natural born Citizen" hasn't been adjudicated to mean someone who was conveniently given birth to in the US.

This is not a racial matter.

This is an attempt to discredit her "natural born Citizen" requirement to hold office by relying on a technicality. Xzi made an assumption about it without even looking it over and chose outrage. You are following suit. Nobody is claiming racism doesn't exist in America. But maybe you should study English a little harder if you are going to try to insult my intelligence. Something something dog whistle.

Xzi · Dec 12, 2020

tabzer said:
The suit posits that the definition of "natural born Citizen" hasn't been adjudicated to mean someone who was conveniently given birth to in the US.

This is not a racial matter.

The attack on natural born citizenship has always been racially charged, and it's always been a part of the Southern Strategy. Any claim to the contrary is just an attempt to gaslight all of us, don't be an idiot by falling for it.

tabzer said:
Clinton vs Trump was clearly staged imo. Trump appealed to those who had hope that the system could be repaired on the inside from an outside person. Many of his supporters still think he can.

No, Trump appealed to those who base their entire personalities on hatred of the "other." Nihilists, neo-nazis, and the "alt-right." His 2016 run was all about fear-mongering over an "immigrant caravan" that never came.

tabzer said:
You chose to vote instead of striking, rioting, and embarking on a revolution. So, I fail to see how or what you are dismissing.

Incorrect. I did vote in that election, but I also did plenty of protesting in the years that followed, and I whole-heartedly advocated for revolution during that entire time period as well. Capitalism has failed us, people are starving to death on the streets of the richest nation on Earth.

tabzer said:
I just don't think your assessment reflects reality. I don't think Trump was elected to piss liberals off.

He was elected to harm the "right people." AKA anyone non-white, non-male, and non-Christian. The Republican party is nothing but a bunch of pathetic racist reactionaries now, and they were all carrying a huge grudge from having a black president preside over them for eight years.

Hell, you should realize what a ridiculous farce it is for a Japanese person to be defending the Republican party. You'd be chased out of any GOP rally or conference by people yelling at you to take your Wuhan virus back to China. These people are all a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

tabzer said:
If a president could have 1% approval rating, lets talk about how much the citizens in such an environment are paying in taxes, following the law, joining/supporting the military, not rioting/murdering politicians.

Say what? So your solution to governing without the consent of the governed is simply to have the governed get on their knees and submit? No wonder we can't make real change happen in this country like the French do on a regular basis.

SonowRaevius · Dec 12, 2020

Seeing conservatives turn on each other over this is both hilarious and worrying at the same time.

I have never in my lifetime seen people be this fervently devoted to candidate to the point they actually are willing to call other traitor/deepstate agent because they didn't just give the president a "W" because they wanted him to have it or because Trump himself appointed them and that should give him the "W" automatically.....

smf · Dec 12, 2020

Foxi4 said:
Irrelevant in the context of smf's assertion. "Being scared" doesn't justify aggression, which was the point.

They only tried to remove his gun from him after he started shooting.
The first person he shot threw a plastic bag at him, he is claiming he was scared and so he shot him.

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UltraSUPRA said:
This means war.

You already lost.
Why would you want to lose more?

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Xzi said:
By the end of it, Rudy's star witness was some drunk homeless lady.

I'm hoping we see more of her.

KingVamp · Dec 12, 2020

The only way he is getting to 270 now, is with over 200 court cases thrown out.

tabzer · Dec 13, 2020

Xzi said:
The attack on natural born citizenship has always been racially charged, and it's always been a part of the Southern Strategy. Any claim to the contrary is just an attempt to gaslight all of us, don't be an idiot by falling for it.

No, Trump appealed to those who base their entire personalities on hatred of the "other." Nihilists, neo-nazis, and the "alt-right." His 2016 run was all about fear-mongering over an "immigrant caravan" that never came.

Incorrect. I did vote in that election, but I also did plenty of protesting in the years that followed, and I whole-heartedly advocated for revolution during that entire time period as well. Capitalism has failed us, people are starving to death on the streets of the richest nation on Earth.

He was elected to harm the "right people." AKA anyone non-white, non-male, and non-Christian. The Republican party is nothing but a bunch of pathetic racist reactionaries now, and they were all carrying a huge grudge from having a black president preside over them for eight years.

Hell, you should realize what a ridiculous farce it is for a Japanese person to be defending the Republican party. You'd be chased out of any GOP rally or conference by people yelling at you to take your Wuhan virus back to China. These people are all a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

Say what? So your solution to governing without the consent of the governed is simply to have the governed get on their knees and submit? No wonder we can't make real change happen in this country like the French do on a regular basis.

You are nuts dude. The only people who have taken issue with where I'm from are you and the people gatekeeping here. You don't admit when you are wrong and you try to make everything about race. The case is not racist.

djpannda · Dec 13, 2020

tabzer said:
You are nuts dude. The only people who have taken issue with where I'm from are you and the people gatekeeping here. You don't admit when you are wrong and you try to make everything about race. The case is not racist.

The issue is if you are Asian living in Asia. You would never experience the discrimination minorities face in the US. “It’s a harsher version of Koreans in Japan after WW2 but a lot worse
other Americans that are agreeing with “birther issue” .. usually are people with white privilege.

Xzi · Dec 13, 2020

tabzer said:
You are nuts dude. The only people who have taken issue with where I'm from are you and the people gatekeeping here.

So you're living in the US then? That would certainly explain a lot about why you're so susceptible to conservative propaganda and why you repeat so many conservative talking points verbatim. If you aren't living here, then of course you wouldn't have experienced that type of discrimination. Regardless, I can assure you that all Asian cultures and countries are the same in the eyes of a modern conservative. That's definitely not the case for me. Japanese folklore and history fascinate me greatly, and given the two nations' history at odds with each other, I'd never dare to confuse a Japanese person for a Chinese person or vice-versa.

tabzer said:
You don't admit when you are wrong and you try to make everything about race. The case is not racist.

Then answer me this: where was this same guy to file a case against Trump running for president? He was the son of first-generation immigrants just as Harris is the daughter of first-generation immigrants. Conveniently it doesn't seem to be an issue for white (or orange) candidates.

tabzer · Dec 13, 2020

djpannda said:
The issue is if you are Asian living in Asia. You would never experience the discrimination minorities face in the US. “It’s a harsher version of Koreans in Japan after WW2 but a lot worse
other Americans that are agreeing with “birther issue” .. usually are people with white privilege.

The case is not racist. That's the point. Xzi claimed it was based on making up a claim that was patently false. Racism existing in America doesn't change what the suit says. Your attempt to rationalize your practice of racism "correctly" only looks at my flag and makes assumptions on what kind of life I have lived, only to disenfranchise me from the conversation. That strawman you are propping looks a lot like you.

If you don't recognize it in yourself then nothing I can do or say will make the decision for you.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

Remember when we were supposed to open up after only two weeks?
Remember when we were supposed to open up when a vaccine came out?

The only way to get back your freedom is to fight.

tabzer · Dec 13, 2020

Xzi said:
Hell, you should realize what a ridiculous farce it is for a Japanese person to be defending the Republican party.

Democrats are racist too. Many of them just think it's a form of righteousness, as demonstrated here. "I'm going to play on your race you coerce you and ridicule you for supporting the real racists."

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

smf said:
You already lost.
Why would you want to lose more?

Only one side has the guns.

Xzi · Dec 13, 2020

tabzer said:
Democrats are racist too. Many of them just think it's a form of righteousness, as demonstrated here. "I'm going to play on your race you coerce you and ridicule you for supporting the real racists."

There are racist Democrats yes, I'll not deny that. Racism in the US is systemic in nature. The difference is that blatant racism doesn't get cheers from the Democratic party, it loses people their positions. Which is why they have to be far more subtle about it if they're going to be racist at all.

I'm registered as an Independent and I'm just giving the facts to you straight here: you would not be welcome in the Republican party. Don't feel bad about it though, they exclude anybody who isn't a pale yuppie scumbag.

SonowRaevius · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Remember when we were supposed to open up after only two weeks?
Remember when we were supposed to open up when a vaccine came out?

The only way to get back your freedom is to fight.

Remember when idiots ignored those two weeks and did what they wanted included leaders in the US while chanting "muh rights" and was encouraged by the president to "take back their states" despite him and the rest of the conservatives literally doing fuck all to help people?

Remember that we have a second wave that is currently happening, with one day having killed more people in the US than the people that died at 9/11 and the vaccine is limited?

Remember when countries that actually did as scientist suggested actually got their issue under control and are actually able to enjoy their lives without masks or worrying about the disease to begin with?

It's almost like you lot enjoy working against yourselves and then complaining that you have to wait even longer.

You're like a child that is told to stay off their ankle after breaking it, but refusing to do so and wondering why it isn't healing faster.

D34DL1N3R · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Remember when we were supposed to open up after only two weeks?
Remember when we were supposed to open up when a vaccine came out?

Remember how half of the population still refuses to wear masks and/or social distance? Keep on doing what you're doing and it's going to take even longer. This is on you and your fellow "But but but Muh FREEDUM"ers. Had you all done your part we all wouldn't be facing more lockdowns. The two week thing didn't work because half of the population of the USA refused to help make it work.

UltraSUPRA said:
Only one side has the guns.

Oh, really? Keep living in your own little dream realm.

SonowRaevius · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Only one side has the guns.

There are more than 2 sides in the US as there are multiple political beliefs and if you think any one side doesn't have guns you're quite sadly mistaken.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

SonowRaevius said:
Remember when idiots ignored those two weeks and did what they wanted included leaders in the US while chanting "muh rights" and was encouraged by the president to "take back their states" despite him and the rest of the conservatives literally doing fuck all to help people?

Remember that we have a second wave that is currently happening, with one day having killed more people in the US than the people that died at 9/11 and the vaccine is limited?

Remember when countries that actually did as scientist suggested actually got their issue under control and are actually able to enjoy their lives without masks or worrying about the disease to begin with?

It's almost like you lot enjoy working against yourselves and then complaining that you have to wait even longer.

You're like a child that is told to stay off their ankle after breaking it, but refusing to do so and wondering why it isn't healing faster.

Those who will give up liberty for safety deserve neither.

D34DL1N3R · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Those who will give up liberty for safety deserve neither.

Sometimes I forget that you're what, 15? Then I read one of your posts and I am instantly reminded.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

D34DL1N3R said:
Sometimes I forget that you're what, 15? Then I read one of your posts and I am instantly reminded.

I take it you can't respond.

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