Nintendo Switch hackers Team Xecuter leaders arrested, charged in federal indictment

ZachyCatGames · Oct 3, 2020

gregory-samba said:
Except the homebrew SDK, like all before it, is based on the official stolen SDK. It wasn't long ago that the people behind all of these homebrew Nintendo SDK's would admit they created them by sourcing copyrighted IP, but they've lost their balls and now it's just an open secret. Libnx, which I believe Atmosphere uses is based on a stolen official Nintendo Switch SDK. So there is an avenue to take to get Atmosphere nuked. Dirty little secrets .... Dirty little secrets ....

I think you don't realize dev-provided nnSdk is included with every application.
Making it fair grounds to reverse engineer and reimplement and making it legally obtainable.
Also a lot of the functionality implemented in Libnx and Libstratosphere isn't present in the sdk provided to developers.

hippy dave · Oct 3, 2020

I knew they went too far with that fucking Stargate service... literally selling pirated games was way too blatant:

even going so far as to make customers pay a licensing fee to play stolen games

I don't think mods (software mods, or hardware like the SX Pro dongle or the SX mod chips) should be illegal, I know there are recent laws trying to make them illegal in various places, but I'm a firm believer in having the right to use your own device how you want. And I don't think TX should have been busted for that specifically (altho their theft of Atmosphere code was obviously shonky and gross, it would be unlikely to be charged as a crime).

But besides the aforementioned Stargate fiasco, they were committing so many assorted crimes in the background (wire fraud, money laundering etc), so they did really make themselves an easy target for litigation. If they'd have just acted as much like a legit business as they could, that happened to be selling console modding devices, Nintendo might never have been able to take them down, tho I'm sure they'd still have tried their hardest.

This leaves a shitty situation for chipped Mariko owners (assuming TX is providing no more updates), I hope something comes through for them soon - I know Atmosphere has Mariko support as a not-immediate but not-too-distant goal, maybe they or other devs can support booting it from the SX chips, as well as whatever clone/alternative chips will follow. And maybe a software entry point for Mariko Switches will turn up eventually, I know it's always being rumoured quietly.

Anyway... overall, I guess this is just some comedy gold, people acted badly and got burned for it.... and this coming the day after we learned Trump got covid. We live in interesting times.

bodefuceta · Oct 3, 2020

It's going to be fun seeing how many people are going to complain their SX doesn't work with 10.3 games. A new SDK should be available soon.

bobovieri · Oct 3, 2020

Nobody has commented that Bowser is being persecuted by Nintendo?
Obviously Mario is behind this Watergate...

Hambrew · Oct 3, 2020

Nerrel said:
So you're legally entitled to make backup copies of your games, but it is also legally forbidden to make backup copies of your game. As you can see, this is a big .... mess

oh crap this is what deja vu is?

ZachyCatGames · Oct 3, 2020

bodefuceta said:
It's going to be fun seeing how many people are going to complain their SX doesn't work with 10.3 games. A new SDK should be available soon.

I'd be surprised if they did 10.3, 11.0.0 is at most only a couple months away from releasing on retail.
edit: And a new SDK will be available soon, yes, but not for 10.x.

zebrone · Oct 3, 2020

Only Garyopa is in Usa.
Lourn will never be extradicted from France to usa clowns!! Same for chinese fellow. The team is composed by 12 men.
So i think they will return...

linuxares · Oct 3, 2020

zebrone said:
Only Garyopa is in Usa.
Lourn will never be extradicted from France to usa clowns!! Same for chinese fellow. The team is composed by 12 men.
So i think they will return...

He is arrested in Canada. Not in France.

zebrone · Oct 3, 2020

linuxares said:
He is arrested in Canada. Not in France.

Oh shiiiii..t

Deleted member 534671 · Oct 3, 2020

Ev1l0rd said:
UK govt. has network banned TX sites.

I’m in the UK and have logged on fine, apart from Xecuter.Rocks Which has been taken down temporarily by the mods.

noreason4 · Oct 3, 2020

What is/was xecuter.rocks?

Deleted member 534671 · Oct 3, 2020

noreason4 said:
What is/was xecuter.rocks?

A chat forum.

Rail Fighter · Oct 3, 2020

I guess no more SX OS update.

Meepers55 · Oct 3, 2020

How predictable.

iialaq01 · Oct 3, 2020

Can we start a fund me page for these guys to hire best law firm for helping giving us a control over our hardware? Seriously, those didn’t promote for piracy and never implicate. A lot of people backup their games so the don’t have to carry them everywhere or in case they lose them or damage them. Nintendo is being evil lately. They’re acting like anti-consumer and never admit the joy con drift issue or even fix it. I hope TX get a release as soon as possible.

Deleted member 397813 · Oct 3, 2020

wait, what non switch lite user uses sx os anyway

realtimesave · Oct 3, 2020

Retroboy said:
LMFAO

playing psp games on a switch is still PIRACY *insert facepalm*

Damn, now emulation is suddenly not piracy

Thanks for that.

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SlCKB0Y said:
‘my point is that emulation can allow legally obtained and purchased software to be run on hardware which it was never intended to. The end user who does this is breaching their license agreement, but the act is not criminal. If the reverse engineering and implementation of the emulation is clean then the developers are in the clear too.

The perfect example of this is Bleem, which existed during the lifetime of the PlayStation. It allowed emulation of PlayStation on PC but they never condoned piracy - the user was expected to use genuine Sony discs. Sony sued and lost. They bankrupted the company but that’s besides the point.

‘what these guys were doing was straight up facilitating piracy, and doing it brazenly and for a long period. And they got arrested for it - it’s not the same thing.

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Heh did you even read the indictment? It shows in there that dumping roms to play on anything is illegal piracy (yes ok I disagree with that but whatever, that is what the law is trying to say) Under the example in the indictment of the Classic2Magic for the snes mini.

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Crazystato said:
"So long gay bowser!"

Heyyy that is mean

but.. still funny

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Btw I can't find/quote Mr Hero here that says he has a big boy job and doesn't pirate. But what are you doing on an emulation / piracy news forum then LMAO.

manousos82003 · Oct 3, 2020

Very sad news...I'll still be using SX OS till any new easy way comes up! I hate Atmosphere and the complicated plug ins...
As a boomer

(although i'm considered as millenial) i prefer simple things..... SX installation for me is easy....

I don't mind waiting, already have much backlog....

realtimesave · Oct 3, 2020

iialaq01 said:
Can we start a fund me page for these guys to hire best law firm for helping giving us a control over our hardware? Seriously, those didn’t promote for piracy and never implicate. A lot of people backup their games so the don’t have to carry them everywhere or in case they lose them or damage them. Nintendo is being evil lately. They’re acting like anti-consumer and never admit the joy con drift issue or even fix it. I hope TX get a release as soon as possible.

This is the best thing I have seen in this thread. That would be a good idea to help keep hope alive for Gary oPa. We need to help him out because he helped us out.

leerpsp · Oct 3, 2020

Ev1l0rd said:
UK govt. has network banned TX sites.

Use a VPN

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