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The Donald Trump Database - Of false statements since becoming president.

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You gotta give it to the guy : he makes other politicians look good by comparison. They lie as well but far less. Trump treats truth as an optional treat. Our perhaps 'something that's relevant to others'

... Granted : the way his fan base treats him, I sometimes wonder why we bother caring about truth to begin with


Oh, and the obvious joke :

Trump: what's this? I never lied in my life!
Database : okay... We've got another lie added
 
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Did they actually fact check the Elizabeth’s Warren case, lol. That literally could be in the Onion, lol. Sometimes WaPo fact checking is bad that they had to bring a fact checker to fact check the fact checkers.

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Literally Trump could say the Sonic Movie gave me a Heart Attack and WaPo would fact check that.
 
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Did they actually fact check the Elizabeth’s Warren case, lol. That literally could be in the Onion, lol. Sometimes WaPo fact checking is bad that they had to bring a fact checker to fact check the fact checkers.

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Literally Trump could say the Sonic Movie gave me a Heart Attack and WaPo would fact check that.
The point of that being Trump just goes off what Fox says and doesn't fact check anything he says or does.
 

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Political and drama. SMH.
We don't get to pick the social climate and situations we're born into, but we do get to recognize when something is worth fighting. Nearly every square inch of your life will deal with the political in some shape or another. I'm of the perspective it's best to engage and understand the process so as to avoid manipulative and immoral people being in control of parts of my life.

Everybody lies about something. Fox, CNN, WaPo.
Aye, that's why most intelligent people fact-check. He does not. He doesn't even assume they could lie or mislead, he just accepts as truth. Which is part of why it's so frustrating.
 

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There were times when Trump was right but WaPo failed in their fact checking.




Not properly fact checking makes the claims less sinister, but more not putting in the work or not properly listening to both sides. It’s hard getting truth even for your average day person even with tons of research. It’s a mess right now.
 
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Fox News has a crazy conspiracy theorist right now Sean Hannity. MSNBC has Rachael Maddow.

CNN is getting sued for fabricating the Covington case and not properly fact checking. Mueller had to correct a Fake News Buzzfeed story that was completely fabricated.

It’s hard getting the truth right now about Venezuela.


There’s liars everywhere and Mainstream has gotten rid of their fact checkers because it’s not profitable. They are threatened by independent journalists.

You can’t them trust head on right away. Trump or Mainstream or even Independent. And getting the Truth is extremely hard and requires lots of work to figure out. And even then maybe. That was suppose to be the news media’s job, that’s what they are paid to do and spend all day on, but now we can’t even trust them to do their job right.
 
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Fox News has a crazy conspiracy theorist right now Sean Hannity. MSNBC has Rachael Maddow.

CNN is getting sued for fabricating the Covington case and not properly fact checking. Mueller had to correct a Fake News Buzzfeed story that was completely fabricated.

It’s hard getting the truth right now about Venezuela.


There’s liars everywhere and Mainstream has gotten rid of their fact checkers because it’s not profitable. They are threatened by independent journalists.

You can’t them trust head on right away. Trump or Mainstream or even Independent. And getting the Truth is extremely hard and requires lots of work to figure out. And even then maybe. That was suppose to be the news media’s job, that’s what they are paid to do and spend all day on, but now we can’t even trust them to do their job right.
I wouldn't call Rachel Maddow a crazy conspiracy theorist, but I'm admittedly biased.
 

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I wouldn't call Rachel Maddow a crazy conspiracy theorist, but I'm admittedly biased.
She’s the craziest one of them all i’ve seen.

She claimed Barr was only handling redactions. False, Mueller helped Barr. Even as she was claiming this underneath in text it said Mueller was helping. Maybe a mistake?

She was speculating that Putin would use a secretly recorded Pee Tape to black mail Trump into withdrawing U.S. Troops near Russia.

She was fear mongering that Russians would Kill Americans by knocking out their heat. That our temperatures would match Antartica. That Russia would hack our electrical grid.

She said that Putin installed Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State.

She said #Kids4Trump was a Russian effort to destroy American Democracy. Somehow internet trolls could destroy our democracy.

All the Crazy Maddow Stuff.

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There were times when Trump was right but WaPo failed in their fact checking.




Not properly fact checking makes the claims less sinister, but more not putting in the work or not properly listening to both sides. It’s hard getting truth even for your average day person even with tons of research. It’s a mess right now.

I mean, I'd like to think the president should be held to a higher standard than the average person. The president is suppose to be the best of us, not the...whatever he is of us.

Also, I don't want to watch 25 minutes of talking heads just talking. Can you find a source that's written and has sources? I don't doubt the Washington Post makes errors, but it's easier to hide a lie when its surrounded by at least one true thing. So ya know, written with sources is preferable :P
 

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She’s the craziest one of them all i’ve seen.

She claimed Barr was only handling redactions. False, Mueller helped Barr. Even as she was claiming this underneath in text it said Mueller was helping. Maybe a mistake?

She was speculating that Putin would use a secretly recorded Pee Tape to black mail Trump into withdrawing U.S. Troops near Russia.

She was fear mongering that Russians were would Kill Americans by knocking out their heat. That our temperatures would match Antartica. That Russia would hack our electrical grid.

She said that Putin installed Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State.

All the Crazy Maddow Stuff.
Most of this isn't true.
  1. She didn't claim Barr was handling the redactions alone.
  2. Acknowledging the very real speculations in the dossier isn't a conspiracy. The dossier has mostly been substantiated.
  3. The known vulnerabilities in our electrical grid, for example, are very real issues worth reporting. She didn't limit the reporting to Russia, either.
  4. She didn't claim Putin installed Tillerson.
Granted, I'm going off my own memory, and I don't watch often, but I remember some things you might be referencing.
 

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Most of this isn't true.
  1. She didn't claim Barr was handling the redactions alone.
  2. Acknowledging the very real speculations in the dossier isn't a conspiracy. The dossier has mostly been substantiated.
  3. The known vulnerabilities in our electrical grid, for example, are very real issues worth reporting. She didn't limit the reporting to Russia, either.
  4. She didn't claim Putin installed Tillerson.
Granted, I'm going off my own memory, and I don't watch often, but I remember some things you might be referencing.
Well, I’m watching video evidence right now of her making these claims.


No way Russia is going hack the power grid of one of the most powerful Nations on Earth. That’s a declaration of War and we would retaliate. It’s just fear mongering.

For Barr yep she definitely did. Here’s her twitter thread with video evidence. But I wouldn’t use this as a point against her and more as a mistake, since her producers made a correction in text underneath.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1112729943413268480?lang=en



The Dossier was like written by a 5th grader. It has not been mostly verified. The part in the Dossier about Trump hiring hookers to pee on a bed in a Russia Hotel and Putin has this secretly recorded video tape to black mail him is beyond crazy.

Yes she did for Tillerson. I’m watching a video right now of her saying that. She even posts a picture of Putin shaking hands with Tillerson.
 

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Well, I’m watching video evidence right now of her making these claims.


No way Russia is going hack the power grid of one of the most powerful Nations on Earth. That’s a declaration of War and we would retaliate. It’s just fear mongering.

For Barr yep she definitely did. Here’s her twitter thread with video evidence. But I wouldn’t use this as a point against her and more as a mistake, since her producers made a correction in text underneath.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1112729943413268480?lang=en



The Dossier was like written by a 5th grader. It has not been mostly verified. The part in the Dossier about Trump hiring hookers to pee on a bed in a Russia Hotel and Putin has this secretly recorded video tape to black mail him is beyond crazy.

Yes she did for Tillerson. I’m watching a video right now of her saying that. She even posts a picture of Putin shaking hands with Tillerson.
I can't watch video evidence right now, so I'll get back to you (if I remember). All I can really respond to is the point about one of the most powerful nations on Earth. Hubris is never good evidence.
 

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