Free Play Zero vs K101 Pro

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the 2ds is a pretty correct answer outside of a never unboxed gba sp and maybe a ds lite (but again, old consoles, worn out buttons, battery life, about to die hinges).
Im not going to argue with you on the rest because there are literally hundreds of topics in this forum and others arguing this, and you seem set on your opinion so there is no point.
BUT what the f... do you do to your consoles that they are all worn out and unusable?
I have a draw full of gameboys, gba sp, ds/ds lite/dsi all in perfectly good working condition. Even my DMG gameboys are working fine. What is this obsession you have with worn out buttons?
P.S. For the money a ds lite is the best way to play gba games. Boxed sp ? Lol
 

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lol didn't expect a flame war :s So in short what I took out of this is:
be on the lookout for a second hand original device and mod/hack it to play gba games and not bother with knockoffs.. even if the emulation isn't "perfect" I doubt he"ll notice (he's 6 btw)
 

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A good GBA second hand in Belgium will cost you around €40/€50
Get a descent GBA Flashcart and you are set.

If you really want portable emulation cheap with more options then gba/gb/gbc/nes/snes
Get a cheap PSP for around €60/€70
You do need to buy memory cards fort it, so in the end ....

But once you count all extra costs you will have to make you can aswell buy a new 2DS XL and put CFW on it :P

Just my opinion :P
And since you life in Belgium, it's crazy when it comes to old consoles, sellers think there like new and people will give anything for it :P

Anyway, a good GBA/GBA SP will set you around €40/€50 without shipping cost, but i would advise to always go get it yourself and ask to test it out before you buy it.
Some people on 2dehands really are scammers
 
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2DS XL is a bad option for a child, the top screen design is too fragile. Even looking at them wrong and they break.
 

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My son would love to have a gaming device and since I don't really think he's old enough for a 3DS. He loves to play Super Mario All Stars on my computer (I have a lot of emulators running) so I thought of getting him a GBA. But over here they are asking ridiculous prices (70-100€) for the console so I was thinking of getting a handheld emulation device..

I dug around the internet a bit and found some candidates, mainly the Free Play Zero and the K101Pro/Coolboy/RS-97.. problem is: I've seen different review videos of both and some reviewers show perfect gameplay, the others show laggy (especially GBA and SNES). I could go for a Free Play CM3 if I wanted something more powerful, but for that price, shouldn't I be better of with a GPD XD Plus? Would really like to keep the price below 100€. The most it would have to run are GBA/SNES/Mega Drive (just Alladin actually).. So no PSX/N64/Dreamcast/... My preference would go out to the Free Play Zero since I like the interface better and I can customize the shell the way he would want to but I'm not sure the Raspberry Pie Zero is fast enough to emulate GBA/SNES games at full speed..

Anyone have experience with both devices? Or even a better alternative?
An used o3DS or 2DS is dirt cheap, runs pretty much all GBA and DS games perfectly (minus the ones that need special hardware in the GBA slot, since there isn't one, obviously runs all 3DS games perfectly except for the couple n3DS exclusives that exist, and you can even run many SNES games very well with homebrew, so it's great all around for old and new games alike. It's really not a bad option. If he's old enough for any game console, he's old enough for a 3DS.
 

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Im not going to argue with you on the rest because there are literally hundreds of topics in this forum and others arguing this, and you seem set on your opinion so there is no point.
BUT what the f... do you do to your consoles that they are all worn out and unusable?
I have a draw full of gameboys, gba sp, ds/ds lite/dsi all in perfectly good working condition. Even my DMG gameboys are working fine. What is this obsession you have with worn out buttons?
P.S. For the money a ds lite is the best way to play gba games. Boxed sp ? Lol

yeah its not like I explain my opinion at all it's just my gut feeling right?
and i guess not everyone gets multiples of a console or the updated versions to be able to spread out usage. i'm basing all of this on my younger brothers and the consoles they brought down between age 5 and age 17 as well as hundreds of thousands of topics about breaking and repairing these consoles from all across the web.

many consoles of the past were notorious for certain things breaking surprisingly often.
the ds lite was notorious for it's l and r buttons (and consequently, countless topics about 'does this game us the R button?) and i do remember a bunch of dpad issues in the later years too. and the same is true for the lites hinges. first they get lose and wobbly, then they won't click in at all, then one or both sides break off entirely. I still remember people modding these broken hinged systems into dedicated one screen gba machines.
the psp (especially the 1000 one) was notorious for both the dpad and the X and O buttons wearing out early (because the swampy dpad sucked form the beginning and X and O are simply the most used buttons).
the original gba was known for issues with the dpad, specifically left and down on it.
the gba sp was much more sturdy in the button department than all of these (though again, L and R were known troublemakers lateron), but many colors had the paint job messed up within a few short months of pocket carrying. also, the charging port was a well known source of complaint in the later years.


all of these happen even quicker in the hands of a child and since all of these consoles are currently available only used, chances are it's going to have some issue already (like an L button that requires a harder press or a worn out battery barely giving 40 minutes of playtime) or even sooner.

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2DS XL is a bad option for a child, the top screen design is too fragile. Even looking at them wrong and they break.

at least on that, we can agree.
 

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yeah its not like I explain my opinion at all it's just my gut feeling right?
and i guess not everyone gets multiples of a console or the updated versions to be able to spread out usage. i'm basing all of this on my younger brothers and the consoles they brought down between age 5 and age 17 as well as hundreds of thousands of topics about breaking and repairing these consoles from all across the web.

many consoles of the past were notorious for certain things breaking surprisingly often.
the ds lite was notorious for it's l and r buttons (and consequently, countless topics about 'does this game us the R button?) and i do remember a bunch of dpad issues in the later years too. and the same is true for the lites hinges. first they get lose and wobbly, then they won't click in at all, then one or both sides break off entirely. I still remember people modding these broken hinged systems into dedicated one screen gba machines.
the psp (especially the 1000 one) was notorious for both the dpad and the X and O buttons wearing out early (because the swampy dpad sucked form the beginning and X and O are simply the most used buttons).
the original gba was known for issues with the dpad, specifically left and down on it.
the gba sp was much more sturdy in the button department than all of these (though again, L and R were known troublemakers lateron), but many colors had the paint job messed up within a few short months of pocket carrying. also, the charging port was a well known source of complaint in the later years.


all of these happen even quicker in the hands of a child and since all of these consoles are currently available only used, chances are it's going to have some issue already (like an L button that requires a harder press or a worn out battery barely giving 40 minutes of playtime) or even sooner.

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at least on that, we can agree.
Just because you explain your opinion doesn't mean it's correct or it even make sense.

For example

2ds is more sturdy, more egonomic, has a better analogpad
Thats a factor for snes/gba/md emulation ?

OR

the 2ds is a pretty correct answer outside of a never unboxed gba sp and maybe a ds lite (but again, old consoles, worn out buttons, battery life, about to die hinges).
An unboxed gba sp, really? Thats the best option? A 001 sp is not the best option period and never opened boxed 101 costs how much ? 300 - 400 if you are lucky to find one ?
 

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I didn't realize you could install CFW on a 3DS/2DS.. I thought you still had to use flash cards like Gateway or Sky3DS.. maybe one of those "doorstopper" 2DS could work then (the sell those second hand at the local gamestore for about 70€)
 

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Just because you explain your opinion doesn't mean it's correct or it even make sense.
For example
Thats a factor for snes/gba/md emulation ?
An unboxed gba sp, really? Thats the best option? A 001 sp is not the best option period and never opened boxed 101 costs how much ? 300 - 400 if you are lucky to find one ?
now you're grasping at straws and intentionally misunderstanding what I write.

I guess the countless topics about broken buttons and the plethora of 'blow into it to make it work again' 'NO DONT ITLL GET WORSE' 'Nah noob I always blow into it when its not working' topics were just in my imagination then. no one ever had problems with any buttons ever, especially not 6 year olds.

the better analogpad is a factor in psp vs 2ds, always. because you can use it and many use it over the dpad on 3ds consoles for its position on the console, unlike the psp where it's kinda awkwardly placed.
and yes, a fresh gba sp over a used one where the battery is dead, the paintjob is gone and every surface is scratched up. the thing i kept talking about shortly before. bottom line, unless you know how to refurbish them, stay away from these used ones at this point. the difference between a backlit and frontlit sp is about as important a factor as ips vs tn on 3ds, but of course, the revised version is nicer to look at.

I didn't realize you could install CFW on a 3DS/2DS.. I thought you still had to use flash cards like Gateway or Sky3DS.. maybe one of those "doorstopper" 2DS could work then (the sell those second hand at the local gamestore for about 70€)

we moved to cfw a few years ago. there's a comprehensive guide on how to go about hacking (to be honest, I thought you already knew how to hack a 3ds console for some reason)
https://3ds.hacks.guide/
depending on firmware, the process varies and one of the easier ways all but the most recent firmwares requires a compatible nds flashcard during install.
 
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the difference between a backlit and frontlit sp is about as important a factor as ips vs tn on 3ds, but of course, the revised version is nicer to look at.
I now know for sure you dont know shit, you dont even own any of the things you talk about, just read forums, watch youtube videos and emulate shit on your phone.

EDIT.
Btw the 2ds was released in 2013 and the psp discontinued in 2015.
So take your its old/broken console argument and shove it, unless offcourse you are saying he should get a new 2ds in which case it makes your 2ds is better value argument even more stupid.
Ok bye bye now.
 
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A 2DS with CFW would probably be best for what you're looking for as Clydefrosch said. The PSP is thoroughly meh at emulating GBA & SNES compared to many devices available nowadays for cheap.
 
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snip

you still can buy fresh 2ds consoles in stores today, unused, virgin batteries and all. even the used ones you find are likely less worn out than most psps.



putting all that aside, i just remembered another option that requires less fiddling with hacking and all.
a cheap china phone (or last years great model budget phone) with a bluetooth controller that has the phone clip in. m
 

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