Shit like this makes be glad I never really got into posting shit online. Not on FB, Twitter, or anything that lasts. Hell, I don't even have a twitter. But, personally, I found it really fucking stupid that people need to get bitched at for shit they said years ago. Not even directed at them most of the time. Glad people are finally going against this type of shit.
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New York Times standing with writer after her racist tweets come up
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i'd gain money, if i got enough attention. thats what the people want, attention. Financially it's cheaper for him to do things out of court, which is why he paid them off.
Huge double standard. A worker at NYT had a white friend who made racist comments and she was fired immediatel. But it's okay because she's Asian
Why would you be getting money from the attention if you weren't actually a victim? You get money from the lawsuit if the judge rules in your favor, or you get money from a settlement from Trump's lawyers, but both are contingent on there being enough truth to your story for Trump to not want it to go to court
Wow, that's one helluva presumption in her favor. Does everyone getting the twitter version of mob justice get that presumption from you, or just the militant liberal ones? If someone could show me where she copied/pasted 'white' over tweets she had received with 'asian' in them and then sent them in retaliation, I'd accept that explanation. But neither her or NYT have produced such stuff.
She didn't have a problem with it when it happened to other people.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/33976/irony-social-media-mob-comes-sarah-jeong-who-ben-shapiro
Anyway it's none of my/our business really. The NYT is entitled to stand behind her and keep her on board if they like, and accept the consequences to their bottom line whether good or bad. I'm just wondering whether she'll remain consistent in her opinion of them now, or fall in line with the hand that feeds her ...
Pretty much this. If I ever make a Twitter(I doubt I would ever), I would never put any personal info on it. I would not want my future employers looking up stuff I said 10 years ago, and denying me a job over it. I don't even have a Facebook really, because of my family taking it way too srs, and me not wanting to open that can of worms, lol. I wanna stay out of family Facebook drama.
In before said job is denied to you because you are clearly not computer savvy.
Sadly I think that is likely to happen at some point. Whether it is a variation on the "we need a hardcore unix greybeard [HR edit] that also knows Microsoft Office" (naturally also with 10 years experience in a 5 year old tech) or more of a cognitively dissonant thing* I do not know.
*I already experienced something like this. Place I had done stuff for years for -- everything from replacing laptop screens to graphics design to mains electrical wiring to plumbing to building to security to circuit debugging to websites (HTML on down through PHP and mysql) to cctv to building game servers to woodwork gets a marketing wonk in and starts looking at me like I have faked it all this time because I was doing the whole https://xkcd.com/627/ routine for their social meeja accounts one afternoon. Granted that was probably more the fault of the marketing wonk being a charismatic type (helps when you are a con artist) but that it happened at all speaks volumes about the future to me.
I had a few job agencies try to go there as well but these were also the sorts of places that "you are hiring me with some kind of skill in IT security and you want me to give your atrociously coded setup a full ID theft kit for me? Is this some kind of test?" applied for.
Similarly I am told an awful lot of recruiters basically only exist on linkedin, even their own websites being an afterthought. Going further an account on spiceworks or stackexchange has been seen to do wonders for IT peeps looking for a job. I have never quite managed to swallow my distaste for long enough to properly investigate how common such things really are.
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I don't think anyone should get fired when people dig up 5-10 year old tweets over a personal vendetta. If you're tweeting racist shit about black people while working for a black woman, as was the case with Roseanne, there are obviously going to be consequences. As there should be.
That said, the assumption that she had been a victim of racism in the past does not excuse her remarks, as I already stated. That part wasn't convenient to the narrative you were trying to paint, so you edited it out.
Well, what you said is your presumption in her favor "was no excuse for what can be read as hate." Meaning, subjectively, her message could only be considered hate speech if you presume against her, rather than with her as you do. But since you're assuming facts in her favor, out of 'belief' rather than evidence, you still do excuse her racist tweets anyway. That's why it was pointless to include that concession language from your post - because it's just air. Read objectively, her tweets are hate speech and racist. And I've seen no evidence to justify the presumption in her favor that you give, and said I'd change my tune if such evidence were produced. She has had no problem dropping the twitter mob hammer on other people due to inappropriate humor tweets - Tim Hunt, Justin Sacco, Bari Weiss, Brendan Eich - so if she gets a little dose of her own medicine here, so be it.
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Just a misunderstanding, then. I meant she shouldn't have written anything that could be interpreted as hate, regardless of whether it is interpreted as hate or not. Better to err on the side of caution.
I don't read all of those tweets as objectively hateful, and I am white. The Breaking Bad/Battlestar Galactica one I even thought was pretty funny. You're free to have your own opinion, of course.
Point still stands. They were tweets made well before she started work at NYT, and they vetted them when she was hired. Digging up dirt only works when it's information that wasn't out there already.
Easy very easy she is a woman end of.
She is not a white rich straight male so she will not lose her Job, no matter what she has said or done on the past on Twitter not like other white rich white men have said on Twitter even through they do not do what they said in the stupid joke they made 10 years a go, you can say anything you like do anything you like on Twitter as long are you are not white rich straight male, no one will go on a social justice campaign. Did you not know social justice campaigns only apply to white straight males
She is not a white rich straight male so she will not lose her Job, no matter what she has said or done on the past on Twitter not like other white rich white men have said on Twitter even through they do not do what they said in the stupid joke they made 10 years a go, you can say anything you like do anything you like on Twitter as long are you are not white rich straight male, no one will go on a social justice campaign. Did you not know social justice campaigns only apply to white straight males
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The campaign against Dan Harmon (straight white male) didn't work either. Also this isn't a social justice campaign. It's a concern trolling campaign from right-wingers triggered by any little bit of criticism of their "god emperor." Expect a lot more non-white and/or non-male targets for this type of thing going forward. If internet "dirt" can be found on them, anyway.
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Y'all seem to be missing one, crucial point.
What does the former director of Guardians of the Galaxy do? He used to be the director of Guardians of the Galaxy.
What does this person whom I told to see next Thursday do? She writes for a newspaper.
Maybe James Gunn could've been serious about the awful stuff he posted, who knows. Maybe he would've put those jokes between the lines of the next movie. Maybe he wouldn't have. But regardless, it's just movies. This woman, on the other hand, is supposedly a journalist. A journalist requires a lot more credibility than a movie director. Would you let a well-known white supremacist journalist to write news for a newspaper read by millions of people daily? Hell no.
As I wrote in the other thread, James Gunn deserves to be made fun of for what he wrote. People have the right to feel offended for what he wrote. But firing him over something like this? No way.
Firing a journalist for posting stuff that's almost as bad as his? You bet. Not because she's a woman, not because she's Asian (as she claimed multiple times), but because she's supposed to be a journalist. Journalism integrity. That's why I see NYT's position absolutely ridiculous. Whoever is calling the protests as "sexist" is a moron.
What does the former director of Guardians of the Galaxy do? He used to be the director of Guardians of the Galaxy.
What does this person whom I told to see next Thursday do? She writes for a newspaper.
Maybe James Gunn could've been serious about the awful stuff he posted, who knows. Maybe he would've put those jokes between the lines of the next movie. Maybe he wouldn't have. But regardless, it's just movies. This woman, on the other hand, is supposedly a journalist. A journalist requires a lot more credibility than a movie director. Would you let a well-known white supremacist journalist to write news for a newspaper read by millions of people daily? Hell no.
As I wrote in the other thread, James Gunn deserves to be made fun of for what he wrote. People have the right to feel offended for what he wrote. But firing him over something like this? No way.
Firing a journalist for posting stuff that's almost as bad as his? You bet. Not because she's a woman, not because she's Asian (as she claimed multiple times), but because she's supposed to be a journalist. Journalism integrity. That's why I see NYT's position absolutely ridiculous. Whoever is calling the protests as "sexist" is a moron.
The world is changed the white man in the past has done wrong The world is turning no more with the sins of the father be excepted their day is over the sons of the father are now paying for the sins of the father This now the way of the world, even though the sons have been brought up correctly and told everyone is equal even though they walk that path. The sins of the father have condemn them that is the way of the world. The Father’s Day is over and the sones shell pay, the world has changed. As it always dose, all I can say I am screwed I don’t even have Twitter.
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Like i said on this before in this politically correct charged world, corporations moneymakers do not want to be seen to be doing the wrong thing is very simple she’s not white straight rich male, She can do no wrong. Can you imagine what would happen if somebody like the New York Times dismissed some one of non-white descent for something they said five years ago or 10 years ago before they got the job. imagine the social warrior justice campaign against the New York Times that would evolve potentially lose them billions of dollars on advertising revenue subscriptions.
She rallied against people who committed the same "crime" that she herself is now being found guilty of. It's only now that she finds herself on the receiving end of that same backlash, that she sees it as excessive and unfair.
Regardless anyone's opinions on the situation, those people lost their jobs and suffered irreparable damage to their reputations.
Demanding that Jeong be given a slap on the wrist and nothing more sets a disturbing precedent for this type of behavior.
Regardless anyone's opinions on the situation, those people lost their jobs and suffered irreparable damage to their reputations.
Demanding that Jeong be given a slap on the wrist and nothing more sets a disturbing precedent for this type of behavior.
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This is assuming they wouldn't fire her if she wrote something similar today. I'd bet that they would. Like I said previously, true racists always repeat their racist behavior eventually, so fate will play out as it does.
racism/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
I am white and thought the tweets were funny. It doesn't matter though. Just like none of our opinions matter. We aren't her boss and if you feel that strongly about it don't read the New York Times. Use your money power as that is what speaks to businesses.
Of course that won't matter because if these tweets upset you I'm guessing you don't read the NYT.
Of course that won't matter because if these tweets upset you I'm guessing you don't read the NYT.
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