Hacking "Hidden home button" hardmod

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Mine isn't glued to the copper. The wire is soldered to the copper and the copper is glued to the bottom of the button. I didn't look at the eject pin, though I think I need those too. My left JoyCon slides off without the button now, still takes a little force though. Anyway, you could probably glue the wire, but it will eventually tear off. If you do a modification like that, make sure to use solder for connections. The only reason one end on mine isn't using solder on is because of the screw.
Gotcha. I took apart my joy-con and I see the mechanics now, thanks. I do TINY joy-con mods if anybody is interested. You pay the shipping of course.
 

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Sure sure... Put some effort and read the thread. It's not working because PIN 10 is Flow Control used in Serial communication when JoyCon is placed in rail and act as a handheld mode. When you ground PIN 10 Flow Control basically doesn't work, hence JoyCon cannot be detected in Serial. It only charges from rail and work over bluetooth. - @kombos

And if you read the thread you will figure out that I didn't used PIN 9 but PIN 10 & 1 using 2 position switch and solid soldering skills.

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Basically it work as expected, when I pull switch open everything works fine, when I pull switch closed it's grounded and doesn't work in handheld.
Actually I'm going to say that if there is someone who have different behavior fucked up something.

Mine definitely works in handheld mode without bluetooth (confirmed by putting the Switch in airplane mode and disabling bluetooth). Granted I didn't short the pins, but instead used a resistor. From what I can tell, it's still enough resistance to prevent the input from being read as high... unless maybe the Joy-con has a different threshold than the switch for high/low.

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The top comment of that thread says the complete opposite along with video proof?

The later comments says opposite to what you said. Anyway I'm not going to argue anymore with you. Video didn't convinced me as this guy doesn't show that he has pins shorted, so no proof for me.

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If I have to believe that this work as expected I would do that in case of @TerraPhantm and @aut0mat3d who knows what they did putting resistor in series rather than random guy from reddit.
 
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The later comments says opposite to what you said. Anyway I'm not going to argue anymore with you. Video didn't convinced me as this guy doesn't show that he has pins shorted, so no proof for me.

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If I have to believe that this work as expected I would do that in case of @TerraPhantm and @aut0mat3d who knows what they did putting resistor in series rather than random guy from reddit.
Well combos, I don't trust you neither because I have my Switch with the rail soldered and everything works flawlessly. Plus the devs say it has nothing to do with soldering but wrong way of touching the pins.
Good luck and sorry to hear you broke your joycon/you needed to do a switch on your switch, but you know, you have a switch^2 (lol one switch on a nintendo switch).
 

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Well combos, I don't trust you neither because I have my Switch with the rail soldered and everything works flawlessly. Plus the devs say it has nothing to do with soldering but wrong way of touching the pins.
Good luck and sorry to hear you broke your joycon/you needed to do a switch on your switch, but you know, you have a switch^2 (lol one switch on a nintendo switch).

Well, I actually didn't broke my joycon. I've simply modded it and now it's better than yours because I can easily disconnect bridge :) Believe me or not. Devs are wrong then. Because I didn't even touch the pins :}

Use your own brain otherwise one day some "dev" tell you that shit taste like chocolate. Bad touch heh... sounds like CP. Have fun.
 
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Well, I actually didn't broke my joycon. I've simply modded it and now it's better than yours because I can easily disconnect bridge :) Believe me or not. Devs are wrong then. Because I didn't even touch the pins :}

Use your own brain otherwise one day some "dev" tell you that shit taste like chocolate. Bad touch heh... sounds like CP. Have fun.
Yes, I saw what you did to your joycon, congrats. Also I saw you saying that doing these hardmods broke handheld connection. And it is this last sentence where you are wrong. If you are not able to see that you're mistaken it's up to you mate ;)
Oh yeah, and believe me, I'm using my own brain and not anybody's else.
 
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Well, I actually didn't broke my joycon. I've simply modded it and now it's better than yours because I can easily disconnect bridge :) Believe me or not. Devs are wrong then. Because I didn't even touch the pins :}

Use your own brain otherwise one day some "dev" tell you that shit taste like chocolate. Bad touch heh... sounds like CP. Have fun.

Can you stop spreading false information?

A few hours ago, i disassembled my right joycon and bridged pins 9&10 (on the test pad) with solder. RCM works as expected, as does the the joycon in handheld mode, no bluetooth needed. Devs (and they're not just devs, they are hardware hackers) are not wrong and you messed up by using different pins. Simple as that.
 
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Can you stop spreading false information?

A few hours ago, i disassembled my right joycon and bridged pins 9&10 (on the test pad) with solder. RCM works as expected, as does the the joycon in handheld mode, no bluetooth needed. Devs (and they're not just devs, they are hardware hackers) are not wrong and you messed up by using different pins. Simple as that.
Please do not use pin 9,it is driven by a logic gate (joycon side) and not a true ground pin
 
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Can you stop spreading false information?

A few hours ago, i disassembled my right joycon and bridged pins 9&10 (on the test pad) with solder. RCM works as expected, as does the the joycon in handheld mode, no bluetooth needed. Devs (and they're not just devs, they are hardware hackers) are not wrong and you messed up by using different pins. Simple as that.

Dev's & Real hardware hackers who did all the hard work and actually know what the hardware is says pin 9 & 10 won't work. Which is true in my case. I'm waiting for that unexpected plot twist when all of you will be removing solder bridges from your JoyCon's, Behavior of my console has been already proven here (well it has been confirmed by many people on different sites) so it's the same false information as yours :)

https://fail0verflow.com/blog/2018/shofel2/
You can just use a simple piece of wire to bridge it to e.g. a screw on the rail (easiest), or pins 10 and 7 (or 1) together (10 and 9 won’t work).
 

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Dev's & Real hardware hackers who did all the hard work and actually know what the hardware is says pin 9 & 10 won't work. Which is true in my case. I'm waiting for that unexpected plot twist when all of you will be removing solder bridges from your JoyCon's, Behavior of my console has been already proven here (well it has been confirmed by many people on different sites) so it's the same false information as yours :)

https://fail0verflow.com/blog/2018/shofel2/

So you're saying that Kate Temkin is not a real hardware hacker? You know she independently found the vulnerability, right?

The behavior happening on your console does not happen on mine or others that said the same thing here. And the only thing we did was creating a bridge between pins 9&10. I have the Switch here, in front of me, in perfect working order. You may want to sit down and wait for this "plot twist"...
 

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Mine definitely works in handheld mode without bluetooth (confirmed by putting the Switch in airplane mode and disabling bluetooth). Granted I didn't short the pins, but instead used a resistor. From what I can tell, it's still enough resistance to prevent the input from being read as high... unless maybe the Joy-con has a different threshold than the switch for high/low.

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I've done the same minus the resistor and can confirm that everything works. (RCM that I've booted to with a 100% success rate and bluetooth/handheld mode work. Wasn't too worried about it not working as I bought an extra set of joycons.)
 

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I've done the same minus the resistor and can confirm that everything works. (RCM that I've booted to with a 100% success rate and bluetooth/handheld mode work. Wasn't too worried about it not working as I bought an extra set of joycons.)

So it's probably my (and bunch of other people joycons) however that just happens and everyone should know that. It actually should be investigated by dev's and hardware hackers. I don't have time to talk about it anymore.
 

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So it's probably my (and bunch of other people joycons) however that just happens and everyone should know that. It actually should be investigated by dev's and hardware hackers. I don't have time to talk about it anymore.

From what I've read so far it seems to be a hit or miss. Do you happen to know if there has been any (Even if minor.) hardware revisions to the joycons?
 

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So it's probably my (and bunch of other people joycons) however that just happens and everyone should know that. It actually should be investigated by dev's and hardware hackers. I don't have time to talk about it anymore.
Only thing I can think of is the Joy-con update that came with 5.0
 

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