Wow, haha so all these people who bought stipid expensive used switches because they were on low firmware was all for nothing haha, glad i stuck with my 4.0 bran new switch
That's true.
Although I doubt they will be able to fix every single flaw, there are probably some that haven't even been found yet. Just look at how long it took for sighax to be discovered on the 3DS. It could be years before another such exploit is found in the new hardware revision though.
It remains to be seen if this new hardware revision has more space for bootrom updates. Since on current Switches that space is all filled up and that makes it difficult, if not impossible to fix bootrom exploits.
He isn't actively blocking backups. But he probably won't be adding the necessary patches to allow backup loading. That will have to be done by someone else later, probably by forking the atmosphere-nx github.
You are saying it like it's a guaranteed ban. Though imo I would say using atmosphere will likely not ban, and using backups will vastly increase ban risk. If designed correctly it should be undetectable, especially given the minimal amount of patching it will do.F-G was already turned in they wouldn't be releasing it otherwise as its a major Tegra flaw, and (almost besides that) nVidia fixed their bootloader issues with TX2 already. Its unreasonable to think that a new chip, the T214, isn't going to be fixed from the known hardware perspective. They may even hit it with a hammer a few times to make sure it actually is secure, otherwise nVidia gets more and more screwed in their contractual dealings if they are a known weak-end.
This isn't a bootrom update, this is rewriting the bootrom and replacing it outright.
In a way it is 'blocking' because its considerably less convenient and safe to hunt down a fork for something that will almost assuredly get you banned any way. Atmosphere's not meant to give you a glorified brick, and losing all server access and more is in many ways in today's world a glorified brick. So not having the built in work for loaders is logical.
And good.
You are saying it like it's a guaranteed ban. Though imo I would say using atmosphere will likely not ban, and using backups will vastly increase ban risk. If designed correctly it should be undetectable, especially given the minimal amount of patching it will do.
My god your argument is incredibly flawed. Ok, imagine it as a product. Would you like to give out to the public a sonic 06, where it's a complete utter mess, or would you like to give the public a complete exploit and shows a bit of what it can do, and others can quickly learn what is possible with this cfw. My point is, they are negating damage. And honestly there are quite a few idiots that absolutely will think they are a hotshot and brick themselves. Which is why releasing it in a finished indoors method, is better. Since it prevents them from being a moron since there is no insensitive to work on someone else code and have little idea what their doingThis all will happen either way thou. It's not an argument to prevent access now and grant it in the summer. Same effect?
I get the argument that you don't want people to walk around with a loaded gun if they don't know how to handle guns. However, there are issues in the logic:
- In the summer, people will start forking and tempering the CFW. They may also brick or brick others. No difference.
- That you shouldn't tinker with something because you don't know it and may hurt yourself is a very bad example. In fact you should. This is essential ape-like learning. Try, fail, adapt, learn, retry, combine knowledge. Degrading somebody to a consumer to protect them means to limit people from growing. Keeping them as pets or not-growing-up children. Second class citizens.
- IMO you should warn about the dangers and try to mitigate them by releasing a hardware bootrom de-bricker mod.
- Also, there is a difference between promoting something and releasing it
Or that I disagree with the model entirely
My god your argument is incredibly flawed. Ok, imagine it as a product. Would you like to give out to the public a sonic 06, where it's a complete utter mess, or would you like to give the public a complete exploit and shows a bit of what it can do, and others can quickly learn what is possible with this cfw. My point is, they are negating damage. And honestly there are quite a few idiots that absolutely will think they are a hotshot and brick themselves. Which is why releasing it in a finished indoors method, is better. Since it prevents them from being a moron since there is no insensitive to work on someone else code and have little idea what their doing
Oh sorry I misread. Still it isn't by definition blocking. Missing functionality is not blocking functionality. Plus I can understand why they wouldn't want to touch piracy with a 10 foot pole.No, not Atmosphere. Piracy/loaders.
idk, given the fact that they managed to screw over the fuse system/disable it. I'm pretty sure the softmod is going to have equal, or more advantages. The only advantage it won't have is being able to restore from a brick. But I don't even know if they cannot do that.Wow, bestest news lately. Maybe we won't need the modchip now. But who knows, maybe it'll have some advantages as well. Like unconstrained firmware updating.
That's why I gave up arguing. I just couldn't be bothered to try to correct their flawed viewpoint.My god your argument is incredibly flawed. Ok, imagine it as a product. Would you like to give out to the public a sonic 06, where it's a complete utter mess, or would you like to give the public a complete exploit and shows a bit of what it can do, and others can quickly learn what is possible with this cfw. My point is, they are negating damage. And honestly there are quite a few idiots that absolutely will think they are a hotshot and brick themselves. Which is why releasing it in a finished indoors method, is better. Since it prevents them from being a moron since there is no insensitive to work on someone else code and have little idea what their doing
Oh sorry I misread. Still it isn't by definition blocking. Missing functionality is not blocking functionality. Plus I can understand why they wouldn't want to touch piracy with a 10 foot pole.
I'm going to avoid piracy. Mainly for the fact the switch isn't even 5 years old yet. And I definitely don't want a psp on our handsOh sorry I misread. Still it isn't by definition blocking. Missing functionality is not blocking functionality. Plus I can understand why they wouldn't want to touch piracy with a 10 foot pole.
At best they may be able to get away with cart games. But playing a eshop title that you dont own is basically a guarantee for a ban.I generally consider it 'enough'. Do you really want to try that random fork from who knows whom that may have who knows what in it, for a practice that has a high likelihood (remember, Nintendo knows what you own and what a system should have access to) of getting you banned?
People will obviously do it, and we're obviously going to get threads asking how to "How do I unban my Switch like a 3DS?!" and... I guess we can all collectively have a good laugh!
certainly online... Unless of course they (the switch homebrew scene in general) manages to figure out some way to avoid it. But I mean, we got a paid online service coming soon. Which I'm pretty sure are going to have piracy measures in place for those games.At best they may be able to get away with cart games. But playing a eshop title that you dont own is basically a guarantee for a ban.
At this point I've already spent more than $400 on games. I used to pirate on 3ds, but I had little money and didn't really care about the system. Switch is the first system that actually interested me, the first one I bought preorder, and the one systems I've spent the most time and money on. I don't feel the urge to pirate on the switch because most games are worth their price to me.I'm going to avoid piracy. Mainly for the fact the switch isn't even 5 years old yet. And I definitely don't want a psp on our hands
At best they may be able to get away with cart games. But playing a eshop title that you dont own is basically a guarantee for a ban.
certainly online... Unless of course they (the switch homebrew scene in general) manages to figure out some way to avoid it. But I mean, we got a paid online service coming soon. Which I'm pretty sure are going to have piracy measures in place for those games.
Dont diss psp. Diss vita is you want to diss something, but vita's problems certainly not in piracy.I'm going to avoid piracy. Mainly for the fact the switch isn't even 5 years old yet. And I definitely don't want a psp on our hands