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What Went Down During Trump's Meeting With The Video Game Industry

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In case you were not aware, on Thursday President Donald Trump had an hour-long meeting with Congressional leaders and video game industry leaders behind closed doors in the Roosevelt Room at the White House. Attendees included company representatives from Bethesda, Take-Two, Rockstar, and the Entertainment Software Association (ESA), as well as critics of violent media from the Parents Television Council (PTC), Media Research Council (MRC), Representative Vicky Hartzler, a Republican Congresswoman from Missouri, among others. The meeting, which the White House describes as one of many with the game industry and other stakeholders in a national discussion surrounding school shootings, was closed to the press. However, some of the attendees revealed what went down in post-meeting statements and press interviews.

The meeting kicked-off with the screening of the following 88-second video that depicts violent scenes from game franchises like Call of Duty, Sniper Elite, and Fallout:


Unlisted video from The White House’s YouTube channel


Following the footage Rep. Hartzler said that the president would ask, “This is violent isn’t it?”, asking for comments and thoughts among those present.

"I think for many of us there, there was a shocked silence," Melissa Henson, a spokesperson for the PTC, said during a press call following the meeting. "Those from the video game industry were quick to defend [the video games] saying they were meant for a mature audience and that they weren't intended for kids to see."

“I think he’s deeply disturbed by some of the things you see in these video games that are so darn violent, viciously violent, and clearly inappropriate for children, and I think he’s bothered by that,” said Brent Bozell of the MRC.

In a press statement following the meeting, the White House added that “the President acknowledged some studies have indicated there is a correlation between video game violence and real violence. The conversation centered on whether violent video games, including games that graphically simulate killing, desensitize our community to violence.”

It is not the first time that President Trump made a connection between violence in video games and real violence. He has been quite vocal about his thoughts on the matter in the past...


... even if studies showed no correlation between the two, as the ESA pointed out: "We discussed the numerous scientific studies establishing that there is no connection between video games and violence, First Amendment protection of video games, and how our industry’s rating system effectively helps parents make informed entertainment choices."

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who was also at the meeting, also acknowledged that there is no evidence linking violent video games to the tragedy in Parkland. But he said he wanted to ensure “parents are aware of the resources available to them to monitor and control the entertainment their children are exposed to.”

"The tone of the meeting was that it was for information gathering, fact finding," the PTC's Melissa Henson said. "I don't believe anyone came in there with a policy outcome in mind. The President was not walking in there with his mind already made up. I am under the impression there will be future conversations, though no next steps were discussed."
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While nothing consequential went down during this specific meeting, similar ones are bound to happen, especially in the wake of increasing reports of public violence. Decisions might then be made that will have a heavy impact on the video game industry.

Views are highly divided regarding the issue of violence and video games. This will probably remain the case in the foreseeable future until a consensus is met, however unlikely that may be. But what do you think? Is there a correlation? Are there any changes that need to be made within the video game industry that can help to curb real-world violence?

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So WTF should the government try to parent when they themselves think they're infallible?[/QUOTE]
I mean laws in the u.s are based on the stupidest of people. Though for a long time most bloody games were exclusive to Japan version only.

That's why you must be strict and actually password protect stuff to keep the child from doing stuff while your out of the room and software similar to what schools use for keeping and eye on the child, though I feel like a young child should be let loose on the internet without a parent supervising them anyway.

it makes me glad you feel that way. I feel the same too.
 
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So WTF should the government try to parent when they themselves think they're infallible?
I mean laws in the u.s are based on the stupidest of people. Though for a long time most bloody games were exclusive to Japan version only.[/QUOTE]

And remind me again why people insist we trust the government? They don't want what's best for us, just for them to get more money.
 
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Video games don't cause violence, atleast, not to those mentally capable of understanding that these are games, and only that.
Evidence suggests kids aren't affected, well, mostly.

However, I do think not enough is being done to stop young kids from playing these games. The particular problem can be made as air tight as possible, if it weren't for 1 single factor: The parents buying the games for them.

Without getting some sort of system in place which punishes parents for giving their kids these games, nothing will change.

Fuck, games like CoD THRIVE on parents buying their 10/14 year old kids these games. Cut the kids (technically) illegal possession of these games, and watch their sales drop like crazy.
 
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Video games don't cause violence, atleast, not to those mentally capable of understanding that these are games, and only that.
Evidence suggests kids aren't affected, well, mostly.

However, I do think not enough is being done to stop young kids from playing these games. The particular problem can be made as air tight as possible, if it weren't for 1 single factor: The parents buying the games for them.

Without getting some sort of system in place which punishes parents for giving their kids these games, nothing will change.

Fuck, games like CoD THRIVE on parents buying their 10/14 year old kids these games. Cut the kids (technically) illegal possession of these games, and watch their sales drop like crazy.

Or just don't buy said games for their kids, in this case, the parents are utter thick-headed morons for even propagating it.
 
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Or just don't buy said games for their kids, in this case, the parents are utter thick-headed morons for even propagating it.
That's exactly it. It's pretty much the sole problem. If parents are ignoring the big fucking 18-ONLY, EXTREME VIOLENCE AND GORE, MURDER, EXPLOSIONS & PROSTITUTION, there's really nothing anyone can really do.
 
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That's exactly it. It's pretty much the sole problem. If parents are ignoring the big fucking 18-ONLY, EXTREME VIOLENCE AND GORE, MURDER, EXPLOSIONS & PROSTITUTION, there's really nothing anyone can really do.

Therefore the government has no right to stick their nose in others' business.
 

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If it's any reassurance I have serious doubt Trump knows enough about any of this to actually pass any policies

He doesn't. He's currently in the throes of advanced dementia & decades worth of raging coke addiction. A baaaaad combo.

Also, he's on borrowed time and even he knows it at this point. He might narrowly avoid dying in Federal prison by spilling his (ample) guts, but most of his cohorts and fellow sociopaths will live out their days behind bars.
 
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Or just don't buy said games for their kids, in this case, the parents are utter thick-headed morons for even propagating it.
Well we can squabble about parents ignoring the content ratings on games, but in reality the games are not putting the guns in their hands. Movies and TV shows even lyrical music also have violence but for some reason video games seems to be thrown under the bus
as the primary cause. Toy guns and hunting rifles would make more sense in this case but Trump isn't going blame those things.
 

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Well we can squabble about parents ignoring the content ratings on games, but in reality the games are not putting the guns in their hands. Movies and TV shows even lyrical music also have violence but for some reason video games seems to be thrown under the bus
as the primary cause. Toy guns and hunting rifles would make more sense in this case but Trump isn't going blame those things.

All the more reason for parents not buying said games or movies for their kids.
 

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Well we can squabble about parents ignoring the content ratings on games, but in reality the games are not putting the guns in their hands. Movies and TV shows even lyrical music also have violence but for some reason video games seems to be thrown under the bus
as the primary cause. Toy guns and hunting rifles would make more sense in this case but Trump isn't going blame those things.
Not even just Trump. Video games have been under fire for a LONG time now.

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He doesn't. He's currently in the throes of advanced dementia & decades worth of raging coke addiction. A baaaaad combo.

Also, he's on borrowed time and even he knows it at this point. He might narrowly avoid dying in Federal prison by spilling his (ample) guts, but most of his cohorts and fellow sociopaths will live out their days behind bars.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
 

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I haven't watched tv many years, since I was little, I guess...but some years ago I remember seeing these shows on TruTV about "Repo" people, who only did cars for some reason. It was a really violent show where every person they repo'd a car from would try to assault the repo men or argue. Those nights I had nightmares of people fighting too.

I don't get dreams like that for video games. Video games are very fake; unbelievable, and predictable. NPCs always stand around with one expression and just shmutz around for no purpose. Real humans aren't like that. Even kids aren't stupid enough to mistaken games for reality. It is nothing but a scape goat for society to point the finger to when they can't come up with a reason why little Bobby shot up the school.
 

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To the people defending the industry, realize that children's minds are not developed. With the development of VR and everything feeling real in our minds like we are inside the game consider the outcome of children that have access to this. Don't think just of your own selves. For me I see it as demented. I remember a few gta kids at my school and they shared anger issues like the world hated them. Us killing in game may dwell the pain of life, but to some it's not enough.
I'm sure a majority of gamers have at some point been effected by a game or tv show. Wanting to be that character or portray them in someway. The same exists in violent games. There's a reason old folks may see shooting games as a incentive for joining the army etc. And there's probably some truth within it.

I rarely post and am not exactly here to argue but here's my two cents for people who are bored.

I can safely say I have never been negatively influenced by make-believe fantasy entertainment, regardless of the medium.

The old quip about 'telling the difference between fantasy and reality' is all that needs to be said. Blaming a form of entertainment/art because some people are weak minded is ridiculous. I just don't agree that the industry should have to be curtailed by the small percentage of people who are so mentally handicapped that they can't understand the difference between real life and what they see on a screen. At that point, you may as well call for the complete censure of all forms of expression because some person somewhere might potentially, maybe, get an idea that might not have otherwise been present in their underdeveloped mind.

That was harsh of me but I think it's fair. As long as no actual lifeforms are being hurt in the creation of the game, as long as their are no victims, then devs should have free reign.

What someone does with that product after the fact is on them alone.

Now on to the issue of kids.

I'm not convinced kids aren't capable of being exposed to these sorts of games without being damaged. But regardless, parents need to do their job. If the parents haven't properly educated their children by the time they can actually understand what's happening in the games then that is on them, not the industry. If you are going to let your kid drink that sort of juice, you better be sure they understand the divide between game and the real world. That they first lay the building blocks for a respectable human being.

Too often, people don't know how to parent. My parents never let me out of their sight when I was young so I wasn't about to fall in a Gorilla enclosure or get snatched up by some predator. I was also ingrained with old school values and made to understand the world as it is so I wasn't about to think something in a videogame transferred outside of it. Who else will really take the time to teach responsibility, consequences for ones actions, etc for your child if not you yourself? That sort of simple foundation will go a long way in grounding a child.

Maybe what we as a society should really focus on is the importance of the family unit and providing a stable and secure environment for the little ones? Our societal issues are certainly complicated though I think the basic relationship between, and attitudes towards, men and women are probably worth considering more than the effect of videogames.

I've always seen Pokemon as a more violent dog fight. But the cartoon down plays it as friendship and happiness in fairy tail land. Great games though. :)

Parents did make that argument back in the 90's-early 2000's. Not surprised if it will rear it's ugly head again.

Someone find out if Michael Vick once dreamed about being a Pokemon Master.
 

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IMHO this meeting it was for:

"look we are the heads of the videogame industry, we know about violence and everything else in videogames but dont worry we will take care of it just dont stick too much you nose into the thread"
 

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IMHO this meeting it was for:

"look we are the heads of the videogame industry, we know about violence and everything else in videogames but dont worry we will take care of it just dont stick too much you nose into the thread"

I thought it was Trump who wanted the meeting?
 

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