Hacking Brickers?

travis134 · Apr 29, 2007

On the PSP, when you were on a lower version firmware you could brick your psp by using a program that reflashes your PSP. However with the NDS, as far as I know, you must always short the SL1 point to flash the firmware...

So how do brickers work on the NDS? Wouldn't people be a bit suspicious if they ran a program that asked them to short the SL1 slot? I'm a bit confused about this, can anyone please explain? Thanks.

chalupa · Apr 29, 2007

well i dont know much about brickers but my m3cf has bricked about 4 ds's. I didnt even run software, the m3 just stopped working for a bit then BLAM! my ds is dead(I had two m3cf btw)

cheesyPOOF5 · Apr 29, 2007

You bricked 4 fucking DSes? :wtf:

chalupa · Apr 29, 2007

Yup, im scared of using flashcarts kinda, but they have too many benifits. my m3-simply have bricked my lite and my phat, they dont always read games and freeze often. I just hope my R4 just didnt finish what my m3 started.
Nintendo replaced 2 of the ds's free of charge (thats why im a fanboy to them!

)

-EX- · Apr 29, 2007

QUOTE(chalupa @ Apr 29 2007 said:
Yup, im scared of using flashcarts kinda, but they have too many benifits. my m3-simply have bricked my lite and my phat, they dont always read games and freeze often. I just hope my R4 just didnt finish what my m3 started.
Nintendo replaced 2 of the ds's free of charge (thats why im a fanboy to them!

Â )

Jesus, what do you do with your flashcarts?!

Sonicandtails · Apr 29, 2007

Back on topic...
Brickers and Bricking your DS via flashing it are two different things.
A Bricker is a NDS file that corrupts your Firmware and makes it unusable. These were made for entertainment and to piss people off.

Bricking your DS via flashing is different. When you flash your DS' firmware with something like Flashme.nds (which I just did for the first time the other day), you short the SL1 connector in order for it to install. If you lose power during the firmware overwrite by not having it plugged in or letting the battery slip out, then the DS will be bricked, but you can lower level format and save it with a Slot 2 card.

travis134 · Apr 29, 2007

QUOTE(sonicandtails @ Apr 29 2007 said:
Back on topic...
Brickers and Bricking your DS via flashing it are two different things.
A Bricker is a NDS file that corrupts your Firmware and makes it unusable. These were made for entertainment and to piss people off.

Bricking your DS via flashing is different. When you flash your DS' firmware with something like Flashme.nds (which I just did for the first time the other day), you short the SL1 connector in order for it to install. If you lose power during the firmware overwrite by not having it plugged in or letting the battery slip out, then the DS will be bricked, but you can lower level format and save it with a Slot 2 card.

Doesn't answer my question... How do malicious brickers work? Do people just stupidly short the SL1, not thinking that it is an intentional bricker?

Destructobot · Apr 29, 2007

You can overwrite part of the firmware without shorting anything. This is enough to brick a DS.

In order to overwrite the entire firmware, you need to do the short.

dbgtdob · Apr 29, 2007

there are bricker programs, people like darkfader (was a trusted homebrew programmer but went rogue), get a kick out of destroying ds's so they made programs that delete the firmware on your ds, there are many such bricker trogans floating around the internet, so you cant trust anywhere since people get a laugh from renaming the bricker program to real homebrew programs, its pretty simply to avoid this, dont download from anywhere but gbatemp, and if you cant find a program ask for a link, that way you know its from a source that someone has already tested, and omg its pretty obvious what the bricker program is, no offence but i would for sure find out what the hell i was doing wrong if before i bricked 4 ds's..........................

Note if you have flashed your ds you can run the repair program if you have bricked your ds with a trogram bricker program.

nl255 · Apr 29, 2007

The bricker will overwrite the unprotected parts of the flash. If you have flashme installed, this will cause a semi-brick (to borrow a term from the PSP scene) as flashme includes recovery code in the protected area. On the other hand, the official nintendo firmware doesn't have any recovery code and will be fully bricked.

travis134 · Apr 29, 2007

Alright guys, thanks for the numerous, fast, friendly, and informative replies, GBA Temp is definatley the best for Nintendo discussion

Awhile back I was asking howto run falshme to replace FWNitro on one of my DS's on MaxConsole, I got no reply, bought a new passme device, still didn't help, and after a few hours googling, I found a post on GBA Temp explaining howto boot to the Slot2 flashcart instantly instead of going through the firmware menu (FWNitro has an annoying menu) which allowed me to run flashme

adgloride · Apr 29, 2007

With the PSP if your using the custom firmware, it should protect you against a bad firmware update, and you should be able to recover. For my understanding it only protects you from a partial brick and not if everything is wiped on the psp. The easiest way to avoid getting a brick is to get your own firmware updates and make the custom firmware file. You avoid downloading the full version of somewhere like usenet.

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