Microsoft Bring the Start Menu Back to Windows 8
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I thought this was a petition, but... it's not. I didn't understand why computers with Win8 have touchscreen monitors. Seriously? And now I find out there wasn't a start menu button? Never know what you have until it's taken away.
While I appreciate your eagerness to abolish an industry standard, I realize that not everyone is a power user and needs that button. Don't assume that everyone who uses a computer is as advanced as you. In fact, computers have only fully implemented touchscreen capabilities because people can't type and (argh!) are not good at using the mouse.
Um; I also find it efficient to create desktop shortcuts and pin shortcuts to the task bar, a new feature added and one I really like. I really don't use the start button anymore because of this new feature.
While I appreciate your eagerness to abolish an industry standard, I realize that not everyone is a power user and needs that button. Don't assume that everyone who uses a computer is as advanced as you. In fact, computers have only fully implemented touchscreen capabilities because people can't type and (argh!) are not good at using the mouse.
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Some things are not meant to be changed :|It's a shame that Microsoft is slowly backpeddling on all of the strong decisions they've made over the past couple of years.
They've added the start menu back in to appease the people who haven't bought Windows 8 yet and keep saying "I want the start menu nooooit's so stupid it's not there wtf M$ u dumb," but the fact of the matter is that those people aren't going to buy it anyway, the start menu was just a scapegoat (YUGIOH!!!).
Frankly, anyone who says they need the start button and menu because they are a "power user" is talking out of their ass. You know who actually uses a mouse and the start menu to open programs? My mum. Real power users use the Windows key on the keyboard and then start typing the program name. It's far more efficient.
The start menu is 20 years old time to move on people.
Start menu is better than Metro.
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I tried Windows 8 once. (had a disk image backup of my SSD prior to updating so I could switch back quickly). I was willing to deal with the god awe-full interface, but the fact I still had to run certain programs as administrator EVEN WITH UAC TURNED OFF is what made me go back. I won't deal with that s****. If Win 8 doesn't fix that, then I will never upgrade.
I can't imagine how much a pain in the ass getting non signed drivers to work in Win8 might be. Didn't have it long enough to find out. There's a few USB devices I have that never got signed drivers. I doubt they would work again if I went to Win8.
It's starting to look like I will move away from Microsoft entirely long term. Hell I had XP right up until 2 years ago roughly.
I can't imagine how much a pain in the ass getting non signed drivers to work in Win8 might be. Didn't have it long enough to find out. There's a few USB devices I have that never got signed drivers. I doubt they would work again if I went to Win8.
It's starting to look like I will move away from Microsoft entirely long term. Hell I had XP right up until 2 years ago roughly.
Onto what? How is Metro a more efficient UI than the start menu? I like to actually see what's on my screen when I'm searching for files/programs. Change for the sake of change (sidegrades) are downgrades when they don't offer anything superior to the table.
guize microsoft made a new keyboard qwerty's been around for 120 years time to move on people
I tried Windows 8 once. (had a disk image backup of my SSD prior to updating so I could switch back quickly). I was willing to deal with the god awe-full interface, but the fact I still had to run certain programs as administrator EVEN WITH UAC TURNED OFF is what made me go back. I won't deal with that s****. If Win 8 doesn't fix that, then I will never upgrade.
I can't imagine how much a pain in the ass getting non signed drivers to work in Win8 might be. Didn't have it long enough to find out. There's a few USB devices I have that never got signed drivers. I doubt they would work again if I went to Win8.
It's starting to look like I will move away from Microsoft entirely long term. Hell I had XP right up until 2 years ago roughly.
It is possible to disable driver signature enforcement. I needed to do that to install my Android Gingerbread drivers.
If it ain't broke, dun fix it.
Lightbulbs are also well over 100 years old.
Do you abandon those?
Internet is also ~40 years old.
Do you abandon that?
If it ain't broke you haven't fiddled enough yet. On a slightly less fatalistic approach if it ain't broke then you probably have room for improvement.
In my lightbulb sockets right now are various combinations of LED and CFL lights, in essence then yes I abandoned lightbulbs as they were traditionally defined. Also in my
40 years might be a stretch.
Also yeah I abandoned lots of things on the internet. Damned if I am writing in XHTML these days.
It's the basic concept of the Startmenu.
Much like lightbulbs.
Be it LED or CFL, their still lightbulbs ;]
I posted this a while ago, but here is my desktop, as well as what I see when I press the start button in Windows 8.1:
And compare it to this:
1) I'm not seeing how this "horrible metro interface" is really SO different that it renders your PC unusable
2) Seems like shortcuts and icons would be way easier to see and browse if they fill the screen instead of in a tiny little box?
3) The Windows key is a standard on PC keyboards now, and a physical button is mandated on all Windows tablets. Why should there be yet another button taking up space on the taskbar? It would be like having an Android phone that has capacitive buttons and displays the onscreen ones.
And compare it to this:
1) I'm not seeing how this "horrible metro interface" is really SO different that it renders your PC unusable
2) Seems like shortcuts and icons would be way easier to see and browse if they fill the screen instead of in a tiny little box?
3) The Windows key is a standard on PC keyboards now, and a physical button is mandated on all Windows tablets. Why should there be yet another button taking up space on the taskbar? It would be like having an Android phone that has capacitive buttons and displays the onscreen ones.
I never really understood that phrase. Why not make things better than what you have? I'm sure horse drawn carriages were fine transportation, but I'm glad we have cars now.
Candle light and postal mail has been around longer than either of those, and yes, they were mostly abandoned when something better came along.
Anyway, about Windows 8. I think it's great they removed the start menu. What's so wonderful about that little drop-down menu with your programs anyway? My problem with Windows 8 was how radically they changed the OS, coupled with how unintuitive it was. Being unable to find the shut down button, being stuck in desktop mode without any visual indicator to get back to the start screen, etc. Windows 8.1 plus spending some time with the OS really ironed out most of my problems. Give it a try for a week or two - you might be surprised.
I've used Windows 8 for like 90 seconds and I've always heard bad things about it. Is it really that bad or just a ridiculous reputation it got?
It's not quite as extreme as everyone acts like it is, but it is a step backwards for desktop users, which defeats the purpose of upgrading your desktop operating system.
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Those of us who do things like development often need to launch programs, sometimes while watching other things run. Hiding everything you're doing just to launch something is absurd. The full-screen aspect is the primary reason I hate modern UI.
Because otherwise there's no way to open it with the mouse. It's not essential, but seeing that everyone is used to it being there when they go looking for it (after all, it's been there since 1995), it's best off left there, especially since there's little reason to remove it. The space freed up by its removal is outweighed by the utility of the button.
Besides, once they put the menu back, it'd look odd if there's no button for it.
