Hardware Removing top half of 3DS XL. Need advice/instructions.

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if you are going to this kind of modding why not make a custom case as well ;D
I am not going for that kind of modding because I know it is unrealistic. Simply removing the top screen is difficult enough already. Not only do I have a really high chance of breaking the system (at least according to a user on here) but I don't even know whether the system needs a top screen to work. (2 different users stated that it will not work!)
 

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This is not a mod, it's wanton destruction. I just witnessed, on YouTube, the Wii U GamePad shot with a high-powered sniper rifle, plus the console blown to dust with C4, and that was leagues smarter than this. Get a used SP or GBA clone FFS.
 
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This is not a mod, it's wanton destruction. I just witnessed, on YouTube, the Wii U GamePad shot with a high-powered sniper rifle, plus the console blown to dust with C4, and that was leagues smarter than this. Get a used SP or GBA clone FFS.
Again, I don't want this to play GBA games. I want this because I believe it will make touchscreen games more enjoyable.

If you think shooting a WiiU is smarter than this (link plz btw) then that might explain why both of the 3DS repair websites I contacted have not emailed me back yet.
 

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I am not going for that kind of modding because I know it is unrealistic. Simply removing the top screen is difficult enough already. Not only do I have a really high chance of breaking the system (at least according to a user on here) but I don't even know whether the system needs a top screen to work. (2 different users stated that it will not work!)
A custom case for both screens is an infinitely safer than castrating the system. Your idea can be executed but it's pretty silly. :P
 

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Again, I don't want this to play GBA games. I want this because I believe it will make touchscreen games more enjoyable.

Still a waste of time and money imho. besides the fact that getting a DS to work without a top screen is very difficult, what the hell are you going to do about no seeing (sometimes vital) information from the top screen?

Would putting a cardboard box over the top of you're computer monitor and unplugging your speakers make adventure games more enjoyable? Have you even done any playability tests by simply covering your top screen and putting the volume down, just to see if you CAN play these games without the top screen?
 

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A custom case for both screens is an infinitely safer than castrating the system. Your idea can be executed but it's pretty silly. :P
Please explain what you have in mind.
Do you mean removing the case of the 3DS XL, and replacing with a non-closeable case? (like an iPad Mini with 2 screens?)
If so then that does sound interesting.
But where would I get such a case? This definitely is something I can't do myself and neither can someone who merely repairs systems.
If you have any ideas please tell me.
 

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Please explain what you have in mind.
Do you mean removing the case of the 3DS XL, and replacing with a non-closeable case? (like an iPad Mini with 2 screens?)
If so then that does sound interesting.
But where would I get such a case? This definitely is something I can't do myself and neither can someone who merely repairs systems.
If you have any ideas please tell me.
but you cant do anything
the hole point of the ds series is 2 screens hence why they called it Duel Screen
and 3D Screen
why not get this
 

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Please explain what you have in mind.
Do you mean removing the case of the 3DS XL, and replacing with a non-closeable case? (like an iPad Mini with 2 screens?)
If so then that does sound interesting.
But where would I get such a case? This definitely is something I can't do myself and neither can someone who merely repairs systems.
If you have any ideas please tell me.
Sure you can do it - all you need is an old toy or some dense net or material and epoxy. It would be less rocket science than matching and soldering resistors to pretend that the screen is still there. Hell, you can even use paper and several coats of epoxy.
 

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but you cant do anything
the hole point of the ds series is 2 screens hence why they called it Duel Screen
and 3D Screen
why not get this
Because that is not a 3DS.
And no more comments like this please. It's not helpful!
I don't want an android or a GBA. I want a 3DS without a clamshell.

Sure you can do it - all you need is an old toy or some dense net or material and epoxy. It would be less rocket science than matching and soldering resistors to pretend that the screen is still there. Hell, you can even use paper and several coats of epoxy.
I have no idea what you're saying. Maybe I'll look up some youtube vids in a moment which will help me figure it out.
Is there someone who can do this for me though? Like a website that mods gaming systems for example?

I noticed something on the 3DS XL though. If you snap the screen to a different position, the home screen icons on the top screen spin around.
That's terrible! So the top screen is an input device too? Why, Nintendo, why. -_-
 

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the hole point of the ds series is 2 screens hence why they called it Duel Screen
and 3D Screen
Fun fact: The DS actually stands for Developer's System (originally/officially iirc) contrary to popular belief. :rolleyes: Though I guess Ninty took a liking to fans' take on the meaning behind the name. But yea w/e. LOL
 

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I have no idea what you're saying. Maybe I'll look up some youtube vids in a moment which will help me figure it out.
Is there someone who can do this for me though? Like a website that mods gaming systems for example?

I noticed something on the 3DS XL though. If you snap the screen to a different position, the home screen icons on the top screen spin around.
That's terrible! So the top screen is an input device too? Why, Nintendo, why. -_-
Pretty sure that's the accelerometer doing its job.

To conclude:
  • You want to remove the top screen despite the fact that most games use the top screen to display what's going on rather than the bottom screen.
  • Hardly any homebrew allows you to swap screens or use just the bottom one and even if they do, they're all in DS Mode, so don't count on a lot of content nor using the whole screen.
  • Removing the top part requires severe modifications and I'm willing to bet that no store will do this for you since it's a lot of work. Even if someone would agree to do this, your wallet would hurt. A lot.
My recommendation? Drop the idea or find a chinese tablet toy, remove the 3DS's casing, put it inside its new home, pimp the case out and bam - you have a dual screen tablet and the console inside is relatively intact. This may require minor soldering work since you'll have to move the ports to new locations, but hell, it's an easier job than cutting the top part off and at least you'll be able to actually play games on the system. Downside? Nobody's going to do this for you on the cheap, so if you don't feel confident enough to modify your system yourself, you'll probably break it.
Conclusion: can be done, but why, why would you do such a thing? :D I've never seen a single mod like this, although I have seen a DS-Laptop called JumbotronDS... however that required extensive modding as well as programming since it actually used big tablet-like touchscreens.

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Fun fact: The DS actually stands for Developer's System (originally/officially iirc) contrary to popular belief. :rolleyes:
Both Developer's System and Dual Screen apply as the name, although the concept of the DS being a Developer's System is somewhat laughable considering the fact that the hardware was incredibly outdated from Day 1 and isn't exactly easy to program for either with all its limitations standing in your way. :tpi:
 

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Whatever case I use, I'd need to cut a hole in it the exact size of the bottom screen. How would I do that? (And how would I attach the bottom screen?)

edit: I'd have to make holes for buttons as well.
Also, where would the L/R buttons go?

Actually maybe what I could use is simply some sort of rollcage that holds the 3DS XL open at all times.
The purpose of the cage would be so the 3DS XL can be held as though it were a slate. (a one-piece object)
Not sure how that would look like while leaving access to L/R buttons. Well maybe it would be like a Wii Zapper (its own L/R buttons) or a Circle Pad Pro (new L/R buttons).
Yea, that's what I want. A Circle Pad Pro that covers the entire unit!
 

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I'm a little confused. You want to play 3DS games with only a touch screen, or do you just want to separate the 3D screen from the touch screen sort of, and play them while one is elsewhere, or do you want to separate the 3D screen from the 3DS entirely and play games like that? Because all three of those options will probably cause quite a few other problems.

EDIT: Now I'm confused again; do you still want to play 3DS games on it?
 

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I'm a little confused. You want to play 3DS games with only a touch screen, or do you just want to separate the 3D screen from the touch screen sort of, and play them while one is elsewhere, or do you want to separate the 3D screen from the 3DS entirely and play games like that? Because all three of those options will probably cause quite a few other problems.

EDIT: Now I'm confused again; do you still want to play 3DS games on it?
I want to play with only the touchscreen, at which point I'd have no reason not to sell the top half.

edit: Missed the last part of your post. But yes I still want to play 3DS games on it, primarily ones that use touchscreen. I believe that many touchscreen-based games will still be playable. By necessity, these games use the touchscreen as the primary screen rather than the other way around.
 

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Honestly I see no point in this... So essentially your wanting to turn a perfectly good dsi or above into a (frankly) smartphone or tablet?

Might I instead mention you could just get a cheap android phone, ipod touch or a tablet and save a lot of effort and butchering a perfectly good dsi/3ds into something that would hardly do anything
 
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