Gaming Unchecked burnt game

Digeman · Feb 17, 2009

Hey guys. Well lately i've been burning a heckofalot of games for the 360. And i was a little out of date when it came to what to use to check if the isos are good or not. So, i just recently found out about the abgx360 (used mulleter before). Anyways what i did was i copied the image files from my already burnt games so i could burn them for my friend aswell, while doing this i thought i could always check with abgx just in case, luckily though none of my burnt games had any fault whatsoever...except one. I had played rock band a lot before i got live and now that i have live all i did was reburn a good copy of the game. (abgx said something about some video thingie or something needed fixing).

But here's my question. I've read somewhere that you don't need to play the "badly burnt" game the time you get banned, it could very well happen sometime after, even though you're playing on a new "good burned" copy of it. And i was just wondering if this is true? And if so, do i need to format my 360 in order to make it secure?

ikick9000 · Feb 17, 2009

it is true, but shouldnt happen unless it was the stealth files or SS that were bad... i don't believe they ban for bad iso's because alot of scratched disks would get you banned as they have some "skipped" or "randomized" data... you should be fine

Digeman · Feb 17, 2009

Oh okey thanks man. Another thing i did forget to mention though is that i have tried going online on some games after and it has worked. (but dunno might take a couple of days to get banned...don't really have the experience to say anything

)

Oh and another thing i did was to check with abgx again and see what the actual fault was, apparently the stealth files were good and the ss looked valid, the only thing that needed fixing was apparently the .dvd.

Is that as serious as the stealth and ss thingie or am i good to go and i can spare my 360 from formatting?

Digeman · Feb 17, 2009

Bump in denial.....

squirt1000 · Feb 17, 2009

If you have played a "bad" game, A format wont help you. It would have been logged at microsofts end.

kokiri_link · Feb 17, 2009

squirt1000 said:
If you have played a "bad" game, A format wont help you. It would have been logged at microsofts end.

Precisely, if you've played a bad game...Im sorry to say, but you will likely get banned the next ban wave

No matter what you do to your box/games now, everything is logged on M$ system. Then again, you may be lucky and evade it!

ikick9000 · Feb 18, 2009

Digeman said:
Oh okey thanks man. Another thing i did forget to mention though is that i have tried going online on some games after and it has worked. (but dunno might take a couple of days to get banned...don't really have the experience to say anything

)

Oh and another thing i did was to check with abgx again and see what the actual fault was, apparently the stealth files were good and the ss looked valid, the only thing that needed fixing was apparently the .dvd.

Is that as serious as the stealth and ss thingie or am i good to go and i can spare my 360 from formatting?

the .dvd is nothing... it only tells dvd decrypter/imgburn where the layer break is, and which file to burn... it is not neccisary at all, just load the .iso and set the Layer Break permanently in the dvd decrypter settings

then you will never have to worry about a .dvd again

Digeman · Feb 18, 2009

PHEW! Thoght i was a goner there for a sec

! Aw well thanks for the help guys! Really apreciate it

comtois · Feb 18, 2009

i've been playing for over a year and am still unbanned. no one knows what causes it, but here are my rules:

1. run everything through ABGX and make sure stealth passes. it doens't need to be able to be verified to be good, so don't worry about that, just make sure stealth passes. if the game is "bad" and you have your firmware upgraded to at least 1.4, then you're fine because the game won't play.

2. only ever use one copy. sometimes people think a new "better" rip is out, but i say stick with the first one and only use that one, no matter what.

3. don't play on live until the release date of the game. it's fine to play early while connected to live because there's no way of hiding that from MS anyway, just don't play things like multiplayer or online co-op.

these are just the rules i use, and it has kept me from being banned for over a year. others have other ideas and other opinions, and i personally don't care about them at all. keep in mind that you get banned from LIVE which means you violated some sort of Xbox Live agreement.

lenselijer · Feb 18, 2009

If you use the latest ixtreme firmware its not possible to get banned, me and my friends use all releases on live the day it comes out and we're still online for about 1 year now

Digeman · Feb 18, 2009

Alright there is one more game i have noticed is a bit different than the rest i've checked. Just to make things easier i'll post pictures of it.
Here are two games i checked, condemned and unreal tournament 3. And everything looks okey.

But here's a pic of viva pinata

And as you can see the viva pinata checkup included some blue text which i have no idea what means. And keep in mind that i played these games before i checked them with abgx.
Some games that didn't verify but stealth checked i just went to autofix and chose level 3 thingie, so does it have something to do with that?

Edit: and i dunno what it actually means choosing the lvl3 thingie xD it's just that i read on a forum somewhere that that's what you gotta do =P?

ikick9000 · Feb 19, 2009

the blue text is just stating which file, and the fact that it is DOWNLOADING the PROPER file from the internet ( it replaces the broken file with the new verified one) the blue is the current download sttus as you can see : DOWNLOADING >>>>> SS.bin (xxxxxxxx numbers letters...) >>>>>100%

thats like downloading the security sectors form verified site, and its completed the download (100%)

comtois · Feb 19, 2009

lenselijer said:
If you use the latest ixtreme firmware its not possible to get banned, me and my friends use all releases on live the day it comes out and we're still online for about 1 year now

completely untrue. MANY people got banned in the last ban wave who were on iXtreme 1.41 (newest at the time). just because you and your friends are not banned does not mean it is not possible. that's like saying you and your friends have never been in a car accident therefore no one has.

Digeman · Feb 19, 2009

ikick9000 said:
the blue text is just stating which file, and the fact that it is DOWNLOADING the PROPER file from the internet ( it replaces the broken file with the new verified one) the blue is the current download sttus as you can see : DOWNLOADING >>>>> SS.bin (xxxxxxxx numbers letters...) >>>>>100%

thats like downloading the security sectors form verified site, and its completed the download (100%)

Hmm i see...that raises one more question though, the thing about it downloading the proper file and all...i actually burnt this game and played it before i checked it with abgx (had only checked with mulleter before since i didn't know that abgx existed) and was wondering if that's .....well....bad? xD

Edit: What i mean to say is that when i checked it with mulleter, everything seemed fine, so i played it. But when checking with abgx (and switching it to a level 3 autofix since it didn't verify but stealth passed) it got that blue text and all. And if that'll cause microsoft to do anything or if it's nothing serious?

Digeman · Feb 19, 2009

Bump in disguise

squirt1000 · Feb 19, 2009

If there was ANYTHING at all missing from the iso then its bad, And yes MS will know you have played a bad backup.

Digeman · Feb 19, 2009

Sorry to be a pain in the ass guys but i've had this thread up for like 3 days now and there are still stuff that's unclear. So please any help is apreciated.

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squirt1000 said:
If there was ANYTHING at all missing from the iso then its bad, And yes MS will know you have played a bad backup.

But that's the thing, with the pictures i posted of it beeing checked with abgx, does it show that anything is missing? Cuz i've played that game before and i still haven't got banned.

Edit: Oh yeah abgx sais that it's all good when i check it with level 2 check, andthe patching only happens on level 3 autofix

comtois · Feb 19, 2009

run it through abgx on level 3 autofix and so long as it finishes without any errors, you're fine.

plus, if you already played the game there's no going back. it's not like playing it more or less will make things any better or worse.

just play your games, always use abgx, and don't worry so much about getting banned.

Digeman · Feb 19, 2009

comtois said:
run it through abgx on level 3 autofix and so long as it finishes without any errors, you're fine.

plus, if you already played the game there's no going back. it's not like playing it more or less will make things any better or worse.

just play your games, always use abgx, and don't worry so much about getting banned.

Yeah you're right. Thanks for the help bro!

triassic911 · Feb 19, 2009

Whoever said you cannot get banned with a flashed 360 is dumb. There is no 100% security out yet.

Also, random fact, if you stealth check everything and it passes, even if your buffer goes down during a burn, it will not be logged into m$ as a unstealthed game, though you might have stuttering and freezes in your game.

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