Hacking SWITCH NOOB PARADISE - Ask questions here

daikon1 · Friday at 12:56 AM

Hi Everyone!

I am on 18.1.0|AMS 1.7.1|E but want to play a game with a base requirement of 21.0.0.

Do I need to only upgrade Hekate Atmosphere and Sig patches?
Or do I need to update firmware with Daybreak also?

Additionally, should I use the Hekate Atmosphere and sig patches released for 21.0.0 or should I use the latest? I seem to remember drawbacks to upgrading at different firmware levels.

Thank you for any help you can offer!

Hayato213 · Friday at 2:50 AM

daikon1 said:
Hi Everyone!

I am on 18.1.0|AMS 1.7.1|E but want to play a game with a base requirement of 21.0.0.

Do I need to only upgrade Hekate Atmosphere and Sig patches?
Or do I need to update firmware with Daybreak also?

Additionally, should I use the Hekate Atmosphere and sig patches released for 21.0.0 or should I use the latest? I seem to remember drawbacks to upgrading at different firmware levels.

Thank you for any help you can offer!

You need to update atmosphere/ hekate/ syspatches along with firmware update.

redalchemy · Friday at 5:11 AM

daikon1 said:
Hi Everyone!

I am on 18.1.0|AMS 1.7.1|E but want to play a game with a base requirement of 21.0.0.

Do I need to only upgrade Hekate Atmosphere and Sig patches?
Or do I need to update firmware with Daybreak also?

Additionally, should I use the Hekate Atmosphere and sig patches released for 21.0.0 or should I use the latest? I seem to remember drawbacks to upgrading at different firmware levels.

Thank you for any help you can offer!

I highly recommend installing sys-patch as well. I tried the latest sigpatches and still had errors when going from 17.0.0 to most recent. Sys-patch has kind of replaced sigpatches.

Blythe93 · Friday at 7:21 AM

daikon1 said:
Do I need to only upgrade Hekate Atmosphere and Sig patches?
Or do I need to update firmware with Daybreak also?

Additionally, should I use the Hekate Atmosphere and sig patches released for 21.0.0 or should I use the latest? I seem to remember drawbacks to upgrading at different firmware levels.

Check this guide. Additionally, instead of the official Atmosphere, you can try this fork with the built-in patches.

daikon1 · Friday at 11:11 AM

Last questions - should I just do the version I need, or should I do the latest? Not sure if there is a downside to going to latest, or if it is all the same once I hit v21 or v21+

Thank you all!

redalchemy · Friday at 4:49 PM

daikon1 said:
Last questions - should I just do the version I need, or should I do the latest? Not sure if there is a downside to going to latest, or if it is all the same once I hit v21 or v21+

Thank you all!

You might as well just be fully updated. One thing you need to know tho, that I did not when I did my update, is that pretty much no older NROs work past v21. You need to individually replace them all with the newer version. You will see an error message on them when viewing the app in HBMenu and they will crash when opening. You can find updated versions for pretty much everything on the HB App Store as well as the forum post that saved me SO much time and effort below:

Thread 'Preliminary list of updated homebrew apps and tools for FW 21.0.0 | AMS 1.10.0 | Please add your findings!!!'

Nov 17, 2025

UPDATING TO NEW FIRMWARE 21.0.0 IS NOT RECOMMENDED. THERE ARE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WITH A LOT OF HOMEBREW APPS.

UPDATED APPS for new firmware 21.0.0 (download the MODDED files if there is no official release for FW 21.0.0). USE the modded files with CAUTION. Not all modded apps have been tested.

YOU CAN USE THIS TOOL TO AUTOMATICALLY PATCH your NRO and OVL files to support FW 21.0.0

MAIN TOOLS:
Hekate: Here.
Atmosphère: Here.
sys-patch module: Here.

OTHER TOOLS:
Ultrahand Overlay: Here.
nx-ovlloader for...

Be aware some have not been updated, but you can manually update them with the patcher from the list. I had to manually patch my VNDS-Love NRO, and it's working fine now. Other NROs still don't work after patching tho.

errordewindows · Friday at 11:23 PM

Good post, thanks

LooneyDerangement · Sunday at 8:47 PM

Hey. I am on 20.5.0, latest AMS.
Tried SwitchU for a few days it's pretty neat. Then games stopped launching, just stuck at the "Licenced by" screen. But it ran forwarders and homebrew just fine. Tried to wipe the 0100000000001000 folder to get back to stock theme.

Then I reboot into emummc and it throws me into the Welcome screen, I complete the setup, create a user and have no games or homebrew forwarders on the main screen. It also shows me that screen where it's not your sd card and a Wipe button. What do I do? Thanks.

Hayato213 · Sunday at 9:18 PM

LooneyDerangement said:
Hey. I am on 20.5.0, latest AMS.
Tried SwitchU for a few days it's pretty neat. Then games stopped launching, just stuck at the "Licenced by" screen. But it ran forwarders and homebrew just fine. Tried to wipe the 0100000000001000 folder to get back to stock theme.

Then I reboot into emummc and it throws me into the Welcome screen, I complete the setup, create a user and have no games or homebrew forwarders on the main screen. It also shows me that screen where it's not your sd card and a Wipe button. What do I do? Thanks.

Sound like you messed up emunand.

Licuatronix · 2026-08-10T03:44:08+0100

Hey, i have a question about something i waned to do, but idk if it is easy to do, basically i want to have a minimal android/linux that can launch one app/game and nothing else, kinda like totkmm: https://gamebanana.com/tools/17165
but with a app/game of my election

is it easy to do? is it even posible?

daikon1 · 2026-08-11T16:52:50+0100

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redalchemy said:
You might as well just be fully updated. One thing you need to know tho, that I did not when I did my update, is that pretty much no older NROs work past v21. You need to individually replace them all with the newer version. You will see an error message on them when viewing the app in HBMenu and they will crash when opening. You can find updated versions for pretty much everything on the HB App Store as well as the forum post that saved me SO much time and effort below:

Thread 'Preliminary list of updated homebrew apps and tools for FW 21.0.0 | AMS 1.10.0 | Please add your findings!!!'

Nov 17, 2025

UPDATING TO NEW FIRMWARE 21.0.0 IS NOT RECOMMENDED. THERE ARE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WITH A LOT OF HOMEBREW APPS.

UPDATED APPS for new firmware 21.0.0 (download the MODDED files if there is no official release for FW 21.0.0). USE the modded files with CAUTION. Not all modded apps have been tested.

YOU CAN USE THIS TOOL TO AUTOMATICALLY PATCH your NRO and OVL files to support FW 21.0.0

MAIN TOOLS:
Hekate: Here.
Atmosphère: Here.
sys-patch module: Here.

OTHER TOOLS:
Ultrahand Overlay: Here.
nx-ovlloader for...

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Be aware some have not been updated, but you can manually update them with the patcher from the list. I had to manually patch my VNDS-Love NRO, and it's working fine now. Other NROs still don't work after patching tho.

Thank you so much! I was away from my computer for a bit and wanted to thank you properly! I will take a look at these tonight and hopefully all goes well!

Thank you also for letting me know that once I go for the 20s I mine as well upgrade all the way. For some reason I thought there was some difference in the memory that was available depending on which firmware I was on and I was worried that going all the way would preclude me from doing certain things with my switch or that it would not make my switch run as well. Wish me luck!

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