ROM Hack Metroid: Other M Redux (Based on Maxximum Edition)
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Going back to this.
When you made the copy-pasting of the voice lines, can you check the original .aix files against the new .aix files?
For example, I'm sure that "se_char_adam_voice_ingame_05.aix" is supposed to be the Grapple Beam voice line.
So what you can do, is compare each of the "se_char_adam_voice_ingame" files from Other M Redux with their original counterparts in Other M, and see if they match when it comes to the item they mention.
You can open up the AIX files in VLC and hear their audio without issues, so you can do that for both the Other M Redux AIX files and the original Other M AIX files too for comparison.
Yeah when I overwrote the files, it was just the drag and drop method. From the Redux folder into the extracted Other M folder, and then yes to all to replace files.
On a fresh extract of my vanilla Other M .iso, "se_char_adam_voice_ingame_05.aix" plays the first part of his Ice Beam Authorisation VO and "se_char_adam_voice_ingame_06.aix" is the second part of that line.
Below is a table I've compiled of every "se_char_adam_voice_ingame_[NUMBER].aix" in my extracted .iso, where [NUMBER] is indicated each row, with a paraphrase of what that line says.
(of note, Japanese dubs of each listed file exist in my copy of the game.)
For Redux lines, I checked against the included .flac, .mp3, and .aix files, which all match with each other.
[TABLE=full]
[TR]
[TD]File [NUMBER] suffix[/TD]
[TD]Other M voice lines[/TD]
[TD]Redux replacement lines[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_01[/TD]
[TD]Head to the System Management room[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_02[/TD]
[TD]Repeat, go to System Management[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_05[/TD]
[TD]Normal Beam ineffective here.[/TD]
[TD]Grapple Beam restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_06[/TD]
[TD]Authorising use of Ice Beam[/TD]
[TD]Zero second sound file[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_11[/TD]
[TD]Shoulder-impacts most effective[/TD]
[TD]Ice Beam restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_12[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Speed Booster[/TD]
[TD]Zero second sound file[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_15[/TD]
[TD]Samus death (has bgm-only alt file)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_17[/TD]
[TD]Head to Sector 1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_18[/TD]
[TD]Lyle went ahead to point-of-interest[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_19[/TD]
[TD]Survery Sector 1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_20[/TD]
[TD]Repeat, head to Sector 1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_36[/TD]
[TD]Head to Sector 2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_39[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Varia Suit[/TD]
[TD]Speed Booster restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_41[/TD]
[TD]Track down Ridley[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_43[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Wave Beam[/TD]
[TD]Varia Suit restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_44[/TD]
[TD]Reminder, head to Sector 2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_45[/TD]
[TD]Reminder, head to Sector 3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_46[/TD]
[TD]Continue investigation in sector[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_47[/TD]
[TD]Blast Ridley eruption port[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_47_2[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Super Missiles[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_48[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Grapple Beam[/TD]
[TD]Wave Beam restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_48_2[/TD]
[TD]Support Anthony[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]File [NUMBER] suffix[/TD]
[TD]Other M voice lines[/TD]
[TD]Redux replacement lines[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_01[/TD]
[TD]Head to the System Management room[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_02[/TD]
[TD]Repeat, go to System Management[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_05[/TD]
[TD]Normal Beam ineffective here.[/TD]
[TD]Grapple Beam restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_06[/TD]
[TD]Authorising use of Ice Beam[/TD]
[TD]Zero second sound file[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_11[/TD]
[TD]Shoulder-impacts most effective[/TD]
[TD]Ice Beam restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_12[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Speed Booster[/TD]
[TD]Zero second sound file[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_15[/TD]
[TD]Samus death (has bgm-only alt file)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_17[/TD]
[TD]Head to Sector 1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_18[/TD]
[TD]Lyle went ahead to point-of-interest[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_19[/TD]
[TD]Survery Sector 1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_20[/TD]
[TD]Repeat, head to Sector 1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_36[/TD]
[TD]Head to Sector 2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_39[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Varia Suit[/TD]
[TD]Speed Booster restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_41[/TD]
[TD]Track down Ridley[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_43[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Wave Beam[/TD]
[TD]Varia Suit restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_44[/TD]
[TD]Reminder, head to Sector 2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_45[/TD]
[TD]Reminder, head to Sector 3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_46[/TD]
[TD]Continue investigation in sector[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_47[/TD]
[TD]Blast Ridley eruption port[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_47_2[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Super Missiles[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_48[/TD]
[TD]Authorising Grapple Beam[/TD]
[TD]Wave Beam restored[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]_48_2[/TD]
[TD]Support Anthony[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Last edited by LTen,
Thank you for your feedback.
That table was very detailed and it was of great help to narrow down the faulty lines.
For some odd reason I cannot explain, the item restoration lines were swapped at some point.
I even checked with my own installation of Redux and I have them in the correct order on my end, so I'm not sure when or why that happened.
Either way, I have re-uploaded those in their correct order to the Archive.org page now. They should be now in the correct order, check out the Archive.org page and try re-downloading those specific AIX files again to confirm, please. Let me know if they're now okay.
Btw, and just to be sure isn't se_char_adam_voice_ingame_43.aix supposed to be the "Authorising Wave Beam" line instead of Plasma?
Since from what I recall Plasma isn't authorized by Adam but it's instead activated by default during the Ridley fight.
I've checked the new .aix files, and they all sound like they match up! I'm guessing it was just a simple mismatch when naming the files.
Also you're totally right. That table is meant to say Wave Beam, not Plasma Beam. I'll try and edit it just in case anyone might need to refer to it in the future for whatever reason, thanks for pointing that out. (simple mismatch when naming ig? haha.)
The sound files provided were previously incorrect, you'll have to recreate your .iso.
You can download just the new updated sound files as seen in the attached image.
Your current saves should still be compatible with the new .iso as well.
Attachments
Didn't you use the zip file? I did. So maybe the zip file has the correct sound files after all. Can you please confirm this @ShadowOne333
The .zip file has everything. Since you only need to update the sounds, you can just download the smaller file that contains just the sounds.
Awesome, thanks for confirming it's now working properly!
Guess that leaves only the two issues listed in the TODO section, does everything else work fine now on your end?
Did you get the 3rd Person Missiles working?
Yeah you'll need to redo the ISO sadly, I don't know when the AIX files where swapped, but the Archive.org ZIP did have the wrong AIX files.
You can either redownload the entire ZIP, or you can simply download the individual AIX files from inside Other M Redux/sound/bgm/ and replace yours.
If you don't know which ones exactly, then simply redownload the entire ZIP and rebuild the ISO again.
I used Gecko Loader to patch the .dol, then Wii Backup Fusion to compile the .iso, this got 3rd Person Missiles to work.
Missile sounds still don't play in 3rd person, but that might be beyond modding (Metroid Other M port for Switch 2 anyone?).
Everything seems to work just fine! If I have any issues when I finish Hard Mode, I'll report back.
With the optional music used with Maxximum, Redux is defo my favourite way to replay Other M.
Ah yes, I think I know what you're referring to.
Missiles and Super Missiles don't really have a "firing" sound per-se, you can only hear them when they make contact with a solid object.
That's normal, so I guess if you got 3rd Person missiles working, it's all good now
If you are using the redux.dol file, you don't need the cheats, the missiles are already coded into the game.
Hello! It's been a while since I checked in on this project here. Amazing work! This is definitely my favorite way to play this game, and has been for a while now. However, I have a few questions on the feasibility of some potential improvements to the project.
1. During in-engine cutscenes that take place after obtaining the Gravity Suit, Samus' suit is still set to the Varia Suit like in the original game. The disconnect between the ingame Gravity Model (which looks great) and the cutscenes is kinda annoying for me, so I was wondering if there's a way to set the model in the cutscenes to the Gravity model. Admittedly, I don't know how the ingame cutscenes work, so please tell me if this is infeasible.
2. This is more of a subjective take, but I think the aura of the Gravity Suit is cool to still have, the pink aura combined with the new Gravity model doesn't look the greatest. Would it be at all possible to change the aura to a light blue? That way, it would match the way the Gravity Suit looks in Prime 1, and would look hella cool in my opinion. My best guess is that the aura is either a texture or a vertex color, and while I don't know too much about how the game handles the aura, it may be doable.
3. I think the Missiles in third-person, for the most part, is a massive boon for the game. However, there are two major bugs with it:
A. You can shoot Super Missiles in third person by releasing a charge while holding B. This works, but this can be done even before the player obtains Super Missiles in the main story, allowing the player to trivialize most of the combat beforehand if they wish (I personally don't abuse it, but I think the mod would be tighter with this fixed). Is it possible for Super Missiles to only be allowed when the player obtains them in the intended way?
B. This is a less pressing issue, but the player can third-person fire missiles even before they obtain them in the story. Admittedly, they're limited to 10 and can't refill them until they get Missiles during the Brug Mass boss fight, but it's still a bug nonetheless.
4. Possibly the most destructive bug is the way the new concentration mechanics work. While allowing the player to use energy Concentration anytime is a good idea, it's possible for the player to use it above their E-Recovery Tank level, which results in them losing health if they perform Concentration. While I'm well aware of this and don't energy recover above the E-Recovery threshold, it could confuse and frustrate newer players. If there's any way to fix this so the player can only recover below the E-Recovery level, this would be great.
Thank you for working on this project!
1. During in-engine cutscenes that take place after obtaining the Gravity Suit, Samus' suit is still set to the Varia Suit like in the original game. The disconnect between the ingame Gravity Model (which looks great) and the cutscenes is kinda annoying for me, so I was wondering if there's a way to set the model in the cutscenes to the Gravity model. Admittedly, I don't know how the ingame cutscenes work, so please tell me if this is infeasible.
2. This is more of a subjective take, but I think the aura of the Gravity Suit is cool to still have, the pink aura combined with the new Gravity model doesn't look the greatest. Would it be at all possible to change the aura to a light blue? That way, it would match the way the Gravity Suit looks in Prime 1, and would look hella cool in my opinion. My best guess is that the aura is either a texture or a vertex color, and while I don't know too much about how the game handles the aura, it may be doable.
3. I think the Missiles in third-person, for the most part, is a massive boon for the game. However, there are two major bugs with it:
A. You can shoot Super Missiles in third person by releasing a charge while holding B. This works, but this can be done even before the player obtains Super Missiles in the main story, allowing the player to trivialize most of the combat beforehand if they wish (I personally don't abuse it, but I think the mod would be tighter with this fixed). Is it possible for Super Missiles to only be allowed when the player obtains them in the intended way?
B. This is a less pressing issue, but the player can third-person fire missiles even before they obtain them in the story. Admittedly, they're limited to 10 and can't refill them until they get Missiles during the Brug Mass boss fight, but it's still a bug nonetheless.
4. Possibly the most destructive bug is the way the new concentration mechanics work. While allowing the player to use energy Concentration anytime is a good idea, it's possible for the player to use it above their E-Recovery Tank level, which results in them losing health if they perform Concentration. While I'm well aware of this and don't energy recover above the E-Recovery threshold, it could confuse and frustrate newer players. If there's any way to fix this so the player can only recover below the E-Recovery level, this would be great.
Thank you for working on this project!
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