i don't understand far left vs far right help me understand it better
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Happening in your head only
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Yeah this lazy POV holds no water anymore
idk man, both sides killed my brothers and sisters in iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Algeria (the french ofc but same same) and Yemen :/
you guys always preach freedom but take other people's freedom, and then get surprised after you ruin someone's life that he becomes a terrorist. like what a shocker am i right??? i just killed his entire family, he should be GRATEFUL that we "liberated" him by.... bombing his country..? yeah right.
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there's the problem
you think the democrats are lefties
they really aren't, anti-communism and reagan drove the political system of the united states rightward
there's a reason that in america the usual word for 'leftier' is calling someone a liberal, when liberalism is a right-wing ideology about free market capitalism and small government
the liberals are the right-wing party in australia
idk, the freedom of living on this earth
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what's a leftest then?
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Both political parties are corrupt to the core but people on the left refuse to acknowledge this and are often complete hypocrites.
The two-party system was designed to give people the illusion of putting "their people" in power. Both sides serve corporate interests and do the bidding of powerful banking cartels and are influenced by one, particular country.
Here are some examples.... the trans shooters Robin Westman and Audrey Hale. As soon as it happened, people were QUICK to blame 'right wing MAGA nazis'. The MINUTE people discovered it was left leaning, bleeding-heart liberals behind the trigger; the stories were quickly buried because it didn't fit the left's narrative of demonizing white, hetero men.
Heck, Devon Tamura. CNN (liberal cesspool of ignorance) released a picture of him walking into the building and referred to him as a 'white' male. You can CLEARLY see he's black. Why lie so poorly like that? When they knew they couldn't lie any longer, the story was dropped.
But if you ever see a story about a truly white guy shooting up anywhere, it's non-stop howls for gun control from the left for weeks/months. If the shooter isn't white (which doesn't fit their gun control narrative), the story is pushed down the memory hole rather quickly. Think about that.
Leftists are quick to blame all their problems on white, conservative men because of what one of them does. But when one of their own shoots up a school...."not all trans people are homicidal maniacs, stop lumping everyone in the same bucket."
Something else that amuses me, a 'right wing' news outlet could have a factual story that paints liberals in a bad light and the left's reply? "Oh, that's just a smear campaign by a right-wing outfit"..... they won't say it's a lie they'll just discount it because it’s a right leaning source.
The recent case of Harjinder Singh. The Biden regime thought it would be a cool idea to give a CDL to an ILLEGAL INVADER and turn him loose on the highways even though he is not proficient in reading/understanding ENGLISH ROAD SIGNS. As a result, 3 people were killed by his actions.
And look at the illegal invaders that were absolutely flooding into this country under Biden. The left refers to them as "migrants"...."undocumented workers".... no, they are CRIMINAL INVADERS here illegally and need to be removed. If the USA had ZERO percent unemployment and companies from coast to coast were fighting each other for employees, this would drive wages UP because they'd need to attract folks and MAYBE we can SLIGHTLY loosen the laws on immigration to import more people. With tens of millions of illegal invaders, this drives wages DOWN (which is only good for the heads of corporations).
Look at all the videos on social media with native born US citizens complaining about lack of employment opportunities or low wages. Think they'll vote for more or less illegal invaders in the next election cycle?
Can somebody explain to me why people on the left, FIGHT to keep illegal invaders (some of them are murders and rapists) in this country? They KNOW they're murders and rapists but will fight ICE agents to keep them here. How in the world does this make sense?
Let's say you're a high school graduate and want to be a truck driver. To support yourself or a family, you need to earn about $100,000. The trucking company can pay you that or pay somebody who barely speaks English $30,000 year to do the same thing. Who do you think they'll hire?
You're a college grad looking for your first job in chemical engineering. Some company is going to pay you $100,000 for an entry level job or an H1B visa holder $50,000 to do the same work?
When you have an excess number of people, it's a race to the bottom as far as salaries are concerned. Who does this benefit? How is this helping American citizens?
As an American, do you think you can illegally move to Japan and demand (AND BE GIVEN) free health insurance, free schooling, free housing, free money? As a taxpayer, do you like paying for illegal invaders to be given all this stuff? You seriously OK with that?
To show you I'm not a far right MAGA nazi, the right is just as stupid. They should pass laws that hand out hefty fines AND prison sentences for anyone that hires an illegal invader. If that ever happens, watch how fast the illegals leave this country. Before Trump got into office, he (along with Kash Patel, Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino) went on and on and on about releasing the Epstein client list. What happens? "Oh, it's a nothing burger....... move along, nothing to see here". So, I guess letting billionaires rape children on Epstein's island is OK then? When the left was in power, why didn't THEY release this info? This just shows you that all politicians are corrupt. They keep the heat off themselves by making people fight over things like gay marriage, racism, trans issues, gun control, the environment, etc., etc.
Look at what's happening in Gaza. Israel is committing genocide for the world to see but both parties keep sending billions of dollars to them and all the military gear they want.
Occupy Wallstreet could have turned into something great, and the ruling class were shitting themselves seeing what was happening so they needed to start us fighting amongst ourselves and it worked because most people are stupid and they know this.
Imagine a world where people had critical thinking skills and could recognize patterns?
The two-party system was designed to give people the illusion of putting "their people" in power. Both sides serve corporate interests and do the bidding of powerful banking cartels and are influenced by one, particular country.
Here are some examples.... the trans shooters Robin Westman and Audrey Hale. As soon as it happened, people were QUICK to blame 'right wing MAGA nazis'. The MINUTE people discovered it was left leaning, bleeding-heart liberals behind the trigger; the stories were quickly buried because it didn't fit the left's narrative of demonizing white, hetero men.
Heck, Devon Tamura. CNN (liberal cesspool of ignorance) released a picture of him walking into the building and referred to him as a 'white' male. You can CLEARLY see he's black. Why lie so poorly like that? When they knew they couldn't lie any longer, the story was dropped.
But if you ever see a story about a truly white guy shooting up anywhere, it's non-stop howls for gun control from the left for weeks/months. If the shooter isn't white (which doesn't fit their gun control narrative), the story is pushed down the memory hole rather quickly. Think about that.
Leftists are quick to blame all their problems on white, conservative men because of what one of them does. But when one of their own shoots up a school...."not all trans people are homicidal maniacs, stop lumping everyone in the same bucket."
Something else that amuses me, a 'right wing' news outlet could have a factual story that paints liberals in a bad light and the left's reply? "Oh, that's just a smear campaign by a right-wing outfit"..... they won't say it's a lie they'll just discount it because it’s a right leaning source.
The recent case of Harjinder Singh. The Biden regime thought it would be a cool idea to give a CDL to an ILLEGAL INVADER and turn him loose on the highways even though he is not proficient in reading/understanding ENGLISH ROAD SIGNS. As a result, 3 people were killed by his actions.
And look at the illegal invaders that were absolutely flooding into this country under Biden. The left refers to them as "migrants"...."undocumented workers".... no, they are CRIMINAL INVADERS here illegally and need to be removed. If the USA had ZERO percent unemployment and companies from coast to coast were fighting each other for employees, this would drive wages UP because they'd need to attract folks and MAYBE we can SLIGHTLY loosen the laws on immigration to import more people. With tens of millions of illegal invaders, this drives wages DOWN (which is only good for the heads of corporations).
Look at all the videos on social media with native born US citizens complaining about lack of employment opportunities or low wages. Think they'll vote for more or less illegal invaders in the next election cycle?
Can somebody explain to me why people on the left, FIGHT to keep illegal invaders (some of them are murders and rapists) in this country? They KNOW they're murders and rapists but will fight ICE agents to keep them here. How in the world does this make sense?
Let's say you're a high school graduate and want to be a truck driver. To support yourself or a family, you need to earn about $100,000. The trucking company can pay you that or pay somebody who barely speaks English $30,000 year to do the same thing. Who do you think they'll hire?
You're a college grad looking for your first job in chemical engineering. Some company is going to pay you $100,000 for an entry level job or an H1B visa holder $50,000 to do the same work?
When you have an excess number of people, it's a race to the bottom as far as salaries are concerned. Who does this benefit? How is this helping American citizens?
As an American, do you think you can illegally move to Japan and demand (AND BE GIVEN) free health insurance, free schooling, free housing, free money? As a taxpayer, do you like paying for illegal invaders to be given all this stuff? You seriously OK with that?
To show you I'm not a far right MAGA nazi, the right is just as stupid. They should pass laws that hand out hefty fines AND prison sentences for anyone that hires an illegal invader. If that ever happens, watch how fast the illegals leave this country. Before Trump got into office, he (along with Kash Patel, Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino) went on and on and on about releasing the Epstein client list. What happens? "Oh, it's a nothing burger....... move along, nothing to see here". So, I guess letting billionaires rape children on Epstein's island is OK then? When the left was in power, why didn't THEY release this info? This just shows you that all politicians are corrupt. They keep the heat off themselves by making people fight over things like gay marriage, racism, trans issues, gun control, the environment, etc., etc.
Look at what's happening in Gaza. Israel is committing genocide for the world to see but both parties keep sending billions of dollars to them and all the military gear they want.
Occupy Wallstreet could have turned into something great, and the ruling class were shitting themselves seeing what was happening so they needed to start us fighting amongst ourselves and it worked because most people are stupid and they know this.
Imagine a world where people had critical thinking skills and could recognize patterns?
Well the pattern, which I've shared numerous times still indicates that an overwhelming majority of extremist is right wing motivated, 74%. Apolitically motivated incidents are 24%, leaving the remaining 2% by the hands of left wingers. So you can attempt to both sides this and pick your left wing examples which unlike you MAGA types, we won't deny, but the pattern and statistics would have those with critical (and basic) thinking skills suspect the violence is likely MAGA adjacent before the facts come out. And in most instances, that happens to be the case.
I'm not really interested in discussing your hypotheticals which are seeded in some low key racism and bigotry either. Especially considering your attempt to argue the unemployment rate in this when the unemployment rate under the US is still under 5%, which is considered an excellent rate to have by all metrics.
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So this I would actually be in favor for as those who hire undocumented workers are exploiting them while also evading taxes. Worth noting that it's usually right wingers who are the ones who hire em (its pretty weird projection all things considered) This would mean Trump goes to prison as well FYI.
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The left is often more left than the Democrats are, and that includes most people on this forum. In fact, most people on "the left" who support the Democrats only do so because they've been conditioned into thinking they have no choice, and not because they actually like them. The same cannot be said for the Republicans, who have brought themselves so far right that they have everyone on the right on their side.
Ask yourself why the illegals are invading. Is it because they're evil drug cartels who've come to rape our women and take our jobs? No, they're people fleeing extremely corrupt countries for work and safety because it's either that or death. Give them a decent meal and a roof over their heads and 9/10 times the crime will stop.
Ask yourself why you use terms like "invading" and "illegals". Is it because that's technically legally correct terminology, or is it because the government has conditioned you into thinking those people are a threat and an undesirable element by default by using words like that? Similar to how they called global warming "climate change"? Or how they used to call them "aliens"?
Ask yourself why we have low employment opportunities and low wages. Is it because DEY TUK UR JERBS? Or is it because we are run by corrupt billionaires who aren't being taxed or regulated properly and the so-called "trickle down economics" is not working as intended? They didn't "have" to drive wages down or employ people easier to exploit. They chose to do that. THEY are the enemy.
Ask yourself why tons and tons of independent and reliable studies, through statistics and science, have been done to study illegal immigrants and found that they help our economy and they aren't anywhere near as dangerous as the right would suggest. Is it because of the corrupt Democrats who are manipulating things behind the scenes and paying a bunch of people to keep quiet because they're apparently the Illuminati? Or maybe, just maybe, all this information is actually true and correct?
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Democrats left or leftists?
If it's the former, sometimes they do criticize them.
If it's the later, leftists blast democrats stupidity nearly as harshly as they do against Republicans.
The only party so far I've seen go unquestioned by their own base is, surprise. Republicans. Up until only recently with many going "I didn't vote for this"
Yes you did, we (collective Internet) warned you. You failed the open book test.
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in america leftist are represented by the bernie sanders style of social democrats
people gunning for universal healthcare, tuition free college, debt forgiveness, workplace reform, infrastructure projects, taxation on the rich, regulation on corporations and monopoly busting, getting money and corruption out of politics, green new deal, etc.
ideas the democratic party writ large want to destroy because they're bought and paid for by lobbyists and corporations
fuck the democratic party
like this post if you fucking hate the democratic party
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Yeah the fact of the matter is that while the Democratic party doesn't explicitly support Trump's oligarchical policies, they still prefer them to truly progressive policies like what Sanders brings to the table. After all, Bernie would've won in 2016, he had all the grassroots/working class momentum behind him, and he was the natural successor to Obama. People wanted the polar opposite of what Republicans were offering, and the Democratic party instead put a Republican-lite candidate on the pedestal.
wanted to ask seems you know of both sides good/bad ... the left always blames the far right and make it sound dangerous and all ways them . as you pointed out with the last few bad stuff that went down .. what has the far right done that was big news ? like all i can think of was the Unabomber after what happened with Waco church standoff . or am i wrong and he was not far right ? after looking at stuff i find the left and antifa more dangerous . they seem all loving as long as you believe what they believe but soon as you change your mind on something they kick you out and label you something .. just look at any Detransitioner get called bigot ... like any conversation or anything they dont like they attack instead of talk about it or move on example Edge of the matrix
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at the end of the day i just think why can't we be friends ?
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Jan6. Charlottesville. The bomb threats at many different locations because of trans people existing. The fact the far right said "transgenderism should be eradicated"
trans is not an ideological thing, doesn't work like that.
How about the fact that trans people not just are unable to serve in the military, but also even if they qualified for retirement benefits for their many years of service, they are denied it.
This list goes on, but that's just a few I can think from the top of my head
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