i don't understand far left vs far right help me understand it better

[chrisrlink]

growing up it was never a thing . then you see people from America talk about it then its all over the show . i take it it comes from democrat vs republican? the few things i want to understand
1) with what's going on in the UK\Europe with the migrant crisis if any of them kill \ or do something bad to kids . and you get upset over it and say its wrong and more should of been done to vetting the migrant . the left call you far right ! why is that ?
2)is there even a middle group or is it just left and right?
3) is there a place that the groups get together and talk with out it getting crazy ?
4) what makes you left\far left and right/far rite ?
i just find it all crazy no matter what you say or do you get labelled to one of the groups . like even this post am 2 minds about it . if i ask anything in the streets some crazy person going to go after me instead of . o no its a big misunderstanding we find it wrong as well but we think that side is going the wrong way about it .. like in south park bloods vs crips can we not just get along ? if not just delete this post

basicly left= for the middle class/ poverty level (98% of americans right is for the wealthy 1% and doesn't give a flying f**k about the middle class and then there are the extreme right (neo nazi's and maga movement that has infected our politics)

 

[Elohim]

Educate yourself before speaking

But your post is literally what a teenager would describe as left wing and right wing. Are you saying left wingers have never taken land from others? Have you ever heard of the Holodomor?

 

[Falconcrest64]

Love people? Left.
Hate people? Right.

That's a vast oversimplication of it, but fairly accurate.

The left are humanitarian, and care about ALL people, building them up and helping the poor where and when they can.

The right only care about themselves, billionaires, and hurting the poor, kicking them while they're down.

Which one are you, OP?

Love people? Left.
Hate people? Right.

That's a vast oversimplication of it, but fairly accurate.

Not entirely accurate.
I hate people BECAUSE of the right...
I hate seeing people mistreated,but the right has mastered that.
They are people too,so yeah...
I hate people because of people
Or,
"I used to be a people person,then people ruined it"

 

[Deleted member 753700]

But your post is literally what a teenager would describe as left wing and right wing. Are you saying left wingers have never taken land from others? Have you ever heard of the Holodomor?

State actions under authoritarian regimes do not define leftist political theory?

The core of leftist ideology opposes imperialism and private land acquisition.

The example you cite is a failure of state power, not an application of leftist principle. The theoretical framework explicitly rejects such actions.

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1 there has been significant polarization due to echo chambers created online based on engagement algorithms that have created a false dichotomy
2 there is a middle ground, but fewer and fewer people are there owing to point 1
3 discourse between people this radicalized is not possible - sane people exist (see point 2) but mostly they have given up discourse owing to point 1
4 see above points. You decide your own place - and if you disagree with both extreme ends of the spectrum you will be simultaneously called far left and far right by different groups

We're cooked, eventually one side will win and we'll get censored Internet and news like in China and we can at least have a false sense of state sponsored unity

May the best dictator win

lacking the integrity to understand and have empathy for the world is quite a feat but here we are.

Centrists thinking they are better but they just platform and allow the right to spew hatred and fear.

That’s why people hate you. You have no spine.

 

[Elohim]

State actions under authoritarian regimes do not define leftist political theory?

The core of leftist ideology opposes imperialism and private land acquisition.

The example you cite is a failure of state power, not an application of leftist principle. The theoretical framework explicitly rejects such actions.

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lacking the integrity to understand and have empathy for the world is quite a feat but here we are.

Centrists thinking they are better but they just platform and allow the right to spew hatred and fear.

That’s why people hate you. You have no spine.

Ah, yes, "that wasn't real communism".


Leftist political theory advocates for seizing private land, you are just changing the definition of what is a "good" land grab vs a bad one. Communism doesn't spread by itself, it is also colonialist in nature, unless you believe every country in the USSR willingly joined, their involvement in Africa, China trying to take Taiwan (also their involvement in Africa today), etc.

Your claims are unfair and biased, pure and simple. If you want to dismiss all historical examples of left wing ideology resulting in disaster and death, then you must do the same with the right wing. Right wing ideology today is isolationist in principle, we do not want more immigration, we do not want to be involved in other countries problems, it is the opposite of what you are saying.

Political ideology changes and you can't just conveniently adapt yours to a modern take and then pretend that current right wingers are still stuck in the 1930s.

 

[Darth Meteos]

Insanely one sided take. Left wing also believes in taking land from other people (or countries, in the case of the USSR and China). Left wing ideas are also very much unfair to a lot of people.

oh those poor innocent souls having their private land taken from them to become public property
surely they were peasants who simply inherited a small plot of land from pa and ma, only fourteen square foot to build the shack on it was

what? it was a foreign corporation exploiting the land for export? it was the owners of utility services whose "profit motive" resulted in generationally poor infrastructure? won't someone think of the rich? won't someone think of little jimmy, who left cuba to spend his life and enormous inheritance saying that castro took everything from him in between bites of caviar

"one-sided" here means one side is the rich, a shrinking class of people who live to exploit the working classes and interfere in our elections to their benefit, beneficiaries of grants, subsidies and all a manner of government bailouts, and the other side is everyone else, the people who live paycheck to paycheck, who can barely afford rising rent costs, who can't find a good job, who are increasingly pressured by inflation, debt and lowering quality of life
which side are you on

 

[Elohim]

oh those poor innocent souls having their private land taken from them to become public property
surely they were peasants who simply inherited a small plot of land from pa and ma, only fourteen square foot to build the shack on it was

what? it was a foreign corporation exploiting the land for export? it was the owners of utility services whose "profit motive" resulted in generationally poor infrastructure? won't someone think of the rich? won't someone think of little jimmy, who left cuba to spend his life and enormous inheritance saying that castro took everything from him in between bites of caviar

"one-sided" here means one side is the rich, a shrinking class of people who live to exploit the working classes and interfere in our elections to their benefit, beneficiaries of grants, subsidies and all a manner of government bailouts, and the other side is everyone else, the people who live paycheck to paycheck, who can barely afford rising rent costs, who can't find a good job, who are increasingly pressured by inflation, debt and lowering quality of life
which side are you on

Yes indeed these poor innocent souls, you are talking about farmers. During the Holodomor, seizing private farmland resulted in millions of people dying to starvation. You can downplay it all you want, but the fact is that you are one of the people who would have died to starvation, which would be poetic.

Seizing private land doesn't just affect the rich, and even if it does, I guarantee you that your life will decline for the worse. If you trust the state to effectively run everything and care for you, you are very naive.

You can take out your frustrations and inability to provide a good life for yourself (in one of the easiest countries do to that, even) on the rich all you want, but that does not mean the government will nanny you and provide you with everything you need. They simply become the new rich. A state who does not depend on anyone is way worse than a state that depends on the rich (not that that's a good thing either, it simply is less worse).

 

[Dark_Ansem]

And all of this were relevant if communism were making a comeback. It's not. Proving you have literally nothing to say, meaningful or otherwise.

 

[SeltzerMist]

New account created less than 2 weeks ago makes a beeline to the politics section. Not sus at all!

 

[Elohim]

And all of this were relevant if communism were making a comeback. It's not. Proving you have literally nothing to say, meaningful or otherwise.

The topic of the thread literally says "far right vs far left", what exactly do you think far left is? Or do you think communists don't exist anymore? Fascism isn't making a comeback either but you can read posts in this forum every day from people who swear it is.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

is? Or do you think communists don't exist anymore?

It doesn't.

Fascism isn't making a comeback either

Liar.

 

[Elohim]

It doesn't.


Liar.

Huh? If you're not even going to bother replying properly why do it at all?

Also you know the The Communist Party USA exists right? Coincidentally, there is no official, self proclaimed fascist party in USA (no, republicans are not fascist nor do they self identify as fascist, don't go for that tired trope). I am not sure what point you are trying to make here.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Coincidentally, there is no official, self proclaimed fascist party in USA (no, republicans are not fascist nor do they self identify as fascist, don't go for that tired trope)

They're playing by the fascist playbook so even if they don't identify as fascists, doesn't change what they are. LIAR.

 

[Elohim]

They're playing by the fascist playbook so even if they don't identify as fascists, doesn't change what they are. LIAR.

Okay, sure. You still haven't explained how there are no communists despite the fact there is literally an official communist party in the USA. You can't pretend fascists are still relevant today when they don't even have a party they can identify with while communists do.

Not to mention there are literal socialists running for offices, New York is projected to get one this year.

Your claim simply makes no sense, you are choosing to believe what you want to believe, it's very disingenuous. Also I am not sure what this "fascist playbook" is but being fascist and not identifying as fascist doesn't make any sense. There ARE people who support fascism just like there are people who support communism in the US, they're not happy with republicans and want their own party. This thread is "what is far right and far left" and all you are doing is confusing OP even more with nonsense.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

You still haven't explained how there are no communists despite the fact there is literally an official communist party in the USA. You can't pretend fascists are still relevant today when they don't even have a party they can identify with while communists do.

I take it you missed on purpose all those nazi flags at their rallies? Weird since you should have had a close-up.

 

[Elohim]

I take it you missed on purpose all those nazi flags at their rallies? Weird since you should have had a close-up.

Two can play the same game. Also in case you haven't caught on yet, I am not saying fascists don't exist, gen alpha and younger gen z men in general lean very far right, and this will only accelerate as America's problems become more serious. I am saying both exist. You are fabricating your own reality that communists don't exist but the entirety of republicans are fascist.

Fascists want their own party just like communists want their own party. I'm not sure why you are calling me liar for explaining a very basic fact to you.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Remind me, when did communists take power in the US, like, even in their entire history?

Fascists are at the helm of the US now, as you know very well, since they're your pals. Project 2025 is not a fabrication, it's a fascist playbook enabling fascist tactics.

LOL alpha and Z lean very far right? in your dreams.

 

[Elohim]

Remind me, when did communists take power in the US, like, even in their entire history?

Fascists are at the helm of the US now, as you know very well, since they're your pals. Project 2025 is not a fabrication, it's a fascist playbook enabling fascist tactics.

LOL alpha and Z lean very far right? in your dreams.

Never, nor have fascists. No, Republicans aren't fascist, otherwise 80% of this board would be getting waterboarded right now and there would be no more elections. But you are changing the goalposts, I asked you if you think communist don't exist today and you said they don't. So do they exist or not?

Also yes, younger men (not the generation as a whole) lean more and more right every year, and the opposite is true for women, this is true for the UK as well, except not as obvious as the US (or South Korea).

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Also yes, younger men (not the generation as a whole)

Moving the goalposts i see.

Never, nor have fascists. No, Republicans aren't fascist, otherwise 80% of this board would be getting waterboarded

More ridiculous thinking that this board is mostly US based

 

[Elohim]

Moving the goalposts i see.


More ridiculous thinking that this board is mostly US based

What goal posts? I literally said men, you changed it to the generations as a whole, it is not my fault you can't read.