Palworld developer responds to Nintendo's lawsuit, claims they don't know which patents are being infringed upon

TVL · Sep 20, 2024

I would like to hear about the patents they got. You can't patent a game idea. If so Nintendo could sue a LOT of game studios for "reskinning" Super Mario Bros, making Zelda-clones, copying Metroid etc.

But you can have patents for insane BS. Sega owned the patent to direct the player with an arrow in a racing game, like they have in Crazy Taxi. So maybe it's something like that, Nintendo might have the patent for keeping your monsters in an index. Naughty Dog also has a patent for a programming algorithm, Andy Gavin talks about it in an interview with Ars Technica, which I didn't think was possible, but appearantly it is (IMO disgusting).

Patents like that should not be granted, the ones asking should be publicly ridiculed for at least a year instead. Same with studios thinking they own a word, how Notch's game he was working on Scrolls infringed on The Elder Scrolls or some BS and the publishers of Candy Crush tried to hinder people from using Saga in their game title (something like that).

It will be interesting to hear an update. If you are a big company you could just kill a smaller company by keeping them in court until they go bankrupt, like Sony did with Lik-Sang and the guys that made Bleem.

samcambolt270 · Sep 21, 2024

smilodon said:
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lol this shit again, get some new material XD Discussing ai does not magically bring into question the authenticity of things you make and its literally irrelevant to whether palworld copied pokemon designs. Somehow even Ai is more original than you, considering how many times this has been regurgitated.

smilodon · Sep 21, 2024

samcambolt270 said:
lol this shit again, get some new material XD Discussing ai does not magically bring into question the authenticity of things you make and its literally irrelevant to whether palworld copied pokemon designs. Somehow even Ai is more original than you, considering how many times this has been regurgitated.

It is irrelevant because... you decided so? Ok?

samcambolt270 · Sep 21, 2024

smilodon said:
It is irrelevant because... you decided so? Ok?

it's relevant because you say so? No, it literally isn't. I can discuss ai as much as I want and it isn't magically evidence that something completely unrelated is a copy. It isn't proof they used ai and it isn't prove they copied designs. You're the one with the burden of proof here, prove that discussing ai on twitter makes some random thing you made a copy. Do it. It's not relevant!

dalmatian666 · Sep 21, 2024

This lawsuit proves to me why it's perfectly ok even good to pirate nintendos games. If you want the pokemon dollars from pc gamers, put your shit on pc then. I'm not buying a handheld equivalent to a 2013 mobile phone when i can play them in 5k 60fps on pc. Sony, Microsoft, everyone has figured out it makes sense to put their games on pc these days, everyone except your stubborn ass. I guarantee you would sell 5 mil plus even at $70 for Super Mario Odyssey, a 7 year old game off steam today if you got off your high horse. Hell, id probably buy it myself. But as it is, Nintendo go fark yourself, and i hope your lawsuit burns in the same hole as the Wii U digital store

AkiraKurusu · Sep 21, 2024

From memory, Nintendo tried to copyright the unique VCR-style jumpscares in Eternal Darkness, which is partly why we haven't seen another game like it since (along with VCRs going extinct in the home)

So I'm not surprised by this, at all.

DragonMals said:
I dont know which side to go upon, but considering their usual reputation, I'll continue to watch the fans of Nintendo hate upon them. It's almost like comfort food at this point

I'm generally a Nintendo fan...but not a diehard one by any means. I've been rather critical of their recent Pokémon and Legend of Zelda releases, not to mention Paper Mario.
You won't be getting any comfort food outta me, is what I'm saying.

The Catboy · Sep 21, 2024

smilodon said:
It is irrelevant because... you decided so? Ok?

It's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with Palworld. They didn't use AI to make the Pals, there's literally no point in bringing up that tweet.

SonowRaevius · Sep 21, 2024

I really hope that Nintendo doesn't win this because it would set a dangerous precedent in the legal world of video game and being able to patent Mechanics would drastically cut creativity and even set up lawsuits for many games AAA or Indie.

The Catboy · Sep 21, 2024

SonowRaevius said:
I really hope that Nintendo doesn't win this because it would set a dangerous precedent in the legal world of video game and being able to patent Mechanics would drastically cut creativity and even set up lawsuits for many games AAA or Indie.

Let's not beat around the bush, this would only benefit AAA companies. Copyright and patents very rarely help the little man, as large companies have the means to abuse the system. Simply put, letting them have this power will only harm indie games.

SonowRaevius · Sep 21, 2024

The Catboy said:
Let's not beat around the bush, this would only benefit AAA companies. Copyright and patents very rarely help the little man, as large companies have the means to abuse the system. Simply put, letting them have this power will only harm indie games.

That is what I meant, sorry if I phrased it oddly.

The Catboy · Sep 21, 2024

SonowRaevius said:
That is what I meant, sorry if I phrased it oddly.

You good, glad we are on the same page

DJ4461 · Sep 21, 2024

As obvious as it is WHY Nintendo is suing, and as much as I don't like PalWorld, I am hoping to see Nintendo lose some of their more unreasonable patents (They patented a BOSS FIGHT?)

jeremy2020 · Sep 21, 2024

HinaNaru Cutie said:
yes i know this already lol

Are you sure you did? Didn't seem like it.

Deleted member 221049 · Sep 21, 2024

Coping Gen 5 Pokémon design

MasterJ360 · Sep 21, 2024

I mean they might as well sue TemTem while they are at it.

dalmatian666 · Sep 21, 2024

Nintendo know this won't go to court even though they will/would be more than willing to take it that far. Reason being they are using the same method they used against yuzu, citra and other people who have made passion projects based on their IPs. They know the palworld devs dont have the money to defend themselves in court against Nintendo, so Nintendo are suing them knowing that palworlds devs will give in and pay them a settlement/delist the game or both. Thats the difference between SEGA and them. Fans make Sonic Mania, SEGA are impressed and hire them to release it as a legit canon title in their series of games. Nintendo just sue the shit out of these people, bankrupt them and or get them sent to jail. If i didnt already say it before, fuck Nintendo and anyone who defends these scummy copyright practices they engage in

Spider_Man · Sep 21, 2024

AlexMCS said:
About time. I mean, it was blatantly obvious.

What was?

How Crash Team Racing is pretty much Mario Kart?

Unless their is an exact identical likeness of anything nintendo..... then nintendo can just suck it.

The only thing here that gets away ripping off identical shit over and over is nintendo.

smilodon · Sep 21, 2024

The Catboy said:
It's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with Palworld. They didn't use AI to make the Pals, there's literally no point in bringing up that tweet.

Yeah once again you just decide to ignore things for no clear reason. If you can't see why this post of the Pocket Pair CEO has something to do with Pal World I don't think it is worth having a discussion with you.

Snintendog · Sep 21, 2024

smilodon said:
Yeah once again you just decide to ignore things for no clear reason. If you can't see why this post of the Pocket Pair CEO has something to do with Pal World I don't think it is worth having a discussion with you.

Reading Comprehension ZERO. Keep moving the goal posts.
1. Patent Infringement not Copywrong
2. AI Debunked as IGN misinformation
3. Patent Infringement is of "Throwing an ITEM to capture a BEAST. As a Gameplay mechanic in the 3rd Person." Craftopia Predates Legends Arceus even showing it being done by 4 years This is a case of BLATANT PATENT FRAUD. By definition Since Pocket pair was the first to the punch but didn't file the patent in japan it goes Public domain after 1 year post implementation. Nintendo just Tried to claim something in the Public DOMAIN. And EVEN IF nintendo was first to its punch they filed the Patent outside of that 12 month leeway period of Legends Arceus (People point to an unknown source stating march 2023 meanwhile Justia states may2024) so its a double level of PATENT FRAUD This goes for the storage box, IVs, Rideable Mounts, Flying mounts, Hybrid Mounts, Quickswap mounts, EVs, ETC. The Fact Craftopia isn't the first game to the punch is even more Damning since MULTIPLE games In and out of Japan have ALL of these gameplay through out gamings LONG years makes these Patents a possible Class action for Multiple companies against nintendo. The Situation Keep getting worse for the case for nintendo the more i look into JP law and other games with mechanics before this. So far Depending on the Patent TPC and Nintedo use They will draw ire from
Square Enix
Capcom
Sega(+Atlus)
Konami
Bandai Namco
Falcom
Sony
Fromsoft
An assortment of Indie Devs (Though the lawsuit alone would have drawn their ire legally they can act on it now.)
And that is JUST the Gaming based Companies. Many others have abided on the honor system on pokemon during its release for Copy Wrong this includes
Tatsunoko
Toei
4. Your being a douche

The Catboy · Sep 21, 2024

smilodon said:
Yeah once again you just decide to ignore things for no clear reason. If you can't see why this post of the Pocket Pair CEO has something to do with Pal World I don't think it is worth having a discussion with you.

You haven’t explained shit. You literally posted a tweet that has nothing to do with Palworld. Maybe consider actually explaining the point to your post and how it relates to Palworld and this lawsuit

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