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I have Nintendont installed on my wii. After installation nintendont does not work. it says Failed to load IOS58 from NAND” when I try to run it. to solve this problem, i installed other ios 58 with wad manager. After installation my Wii doesn't work and Priiloader doesn't work either. my wii shows heaviness. how can i put it back.
 

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Could be wrong, but I think ios 58 is part of 4.3 firmware. There's an installer for at least 4.1 iirc. I remember having to use the installer for clean rip as I'm on 4.1. I guess the question is if you have bootmii as boot2.
 

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i had bootmii as ios interested because wii has 4.3e firmware. i had installed priiloader. i don't know it works. wii has completely black screen, my television asks check that cable is connected, no signal.
 
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IOS58 is not required for any wii to boot up. Whatever wad u installed was NOT IOS58. Maybe u installed a stubbed/broken system menu IOS, or inappropriate system menu wad or similar.

Next time don't guess, either ask for help or follow a reputable guide like modmii or wii.guide

At this stage I think your only hope is probably if the wii had bootmii boot2 installed previously, probably unlikely
 

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on photos see your last system check
one of ios gives error during installation
 

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Photos won't help here (now it's too late to show them).
You screwed up the console as much efficiently as possible.
Now you can start heating up your soldering iron and looking for your NAND backup and your Wii's keys.
Ahead of you is a very long and exciting process of desoldering TSOP48 NAND Flash, flashing it on special equipment and soldering it back.
 

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Ahead of you is a very long and exciting process of desoldering TSOP48 NAND Flash, flashing it on special equipment and soldering it back.
Is there a step-by-step guide with currently available hardware? All I ever found was a blurry: "Get an Infectus" and some old pages. Granted, I never searched much in this regard (doing all potentially dangerous software stuff on a Wii with BootMii@boot2).

It would be interesting to know how to do it. For the DSi and 3DS there are these hardmods requiring nothing more than a few wires and a micro-SD adapter as well as an SD reader/writer supporting single data line mode.
Desoldering the NAND chip isn't easy (but easy to screw up things).

in most cases these kind of thread end with "Get another Wii and be more careful next time!" never to be heard of again. Rarely will people be willing and/or able to perform such a difficult task.
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What I'd like to know are two things:
  • What to buy and how to flash a Wii NAND with hardware methods?
  • Can the leaked – hence sadly not legal – SD boot be used to get access to BootMii on a Wii without backup/key? As far as I know recovery with hardware methods is possible on consoles with the old boot1, even without backup/key (??known plaintext attack like installing B9S on a 3DS via hardmod??)
 

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I found this by a fast search :
Short guide : gbatemp - How to unbrick your Wii
Detailed guide: wiibrew - How to fix a full brick
Thank you. This is actually quite detailed and maybe could be followed (missing pictures). But the problem is already Step 1: Get an Infectus. As far as I know they aren't available anymore.
This is why I asked for instructions with readily available hardware. There must be hardware tools for NAND flashing, but I lack all skills here. Searching this myself would require learning much -- it depends too much on previous general knowledge in these topics.

The old guides do state that the keys aren't required for a console with old boot1 -- which is what I hoped for. But SD boot wasn't known yet back then, this is why I threw this into the pot as well: It makes me think any software bricked Wii could be theoretically revived by a soldering professional.
For long-term preservation this is good news, because "throw away and get another one" isn't my preferred solution with devices out of production for 10+ years.
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Going back to the particular problem here:
@fireboys
If Priiloader won't start, there isn't much that can be tried with software methods. Provide an SD containing the BootMii files
https://static.hackmii.com/bootmii_sd_files.zip
and see if it automatically starts on power on. BootMii@boot2 would be the good case.

If you have installed more than IOS58, please provide a list of files (of course not the files). Maybe this shows what went wrong.
 
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There exist the Infectus 2 mod Chip e.g. available on shop01media or modchipcentral
I highly doubt shop01media has any actually in-stock. And modchipcentral shows out of stock.



Looks like Progskeet can be used as an alternative?

At least it has been mentioned some times.

https://psdevwiki.com/ps3/Hardware_flashing#Progskeet
Progskeet 1.0 / 1.1, based on an Actel A3P125 FPGA for NAND and NOR based consoles (not only PS3, but also useable for Wii and Xbox360)

https://gbatemp.net/threads/repaired-my-fully-bricked-wii-without-a-infectus-nand-dump.418627/
My plan was to purchase a ProgSkeet. But found it would actually be cheaper to just purchase a donor Wii
... will require a Infectus or Progskeet (may not need a infectus or progskeet

If I had to bet, a Teensy++ 2.0 (PS3 NOR and NAND) or a Raspberry Pi Pico (Xbox 360 NAND) could be repurposed into a flasher for the Wii, too.

EDIT: To answer this question,
It would be interesting to know how to do it. For the DSi and 3DS there are these hardmods requiring nothing more than a few wires and a micro-SD adapter as well as an SD reader/writer supporting single data line mode.
Desoldering the NAND chip isn't easy (but easy to screw up things).
The DSi and 3DS "NANDs" are eMMC chips iirc. Which has a similar (if not exact) protocal like SD cards do (hence why you can literally solder a SD-USB adapter up and it'll "just work").

However, certain consoles (Wii, PS3, Xbox 360, possibly more) do not use eMMC memory. So connecting a SD-USB card adapter will NOT work, because it cannot communicate with the NAND chip due to protocol differences.

Technically you CAN use a NAND clip like some are used for the PS3 and Xbox 360, but they're expensive (AliExpress has some for almost $40+ USD and it's fucking AliExpress for cheap-asses lol ) and I don't know how well they'd actually work compared to just lifting it off the board. Also not sure how well the console would like voltage from the NAND clip adapter being fed back into the board.
 
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Teensy++ 2.0
Here is an example of using Teensy to get a NAND dump: That console was an old revision (boot2 install-able), but the user in the best traditions did not bother to install BootMii, did not make a backup of the NAND and the keys and successfully bricked the console:
(It's a machine translation of the repair short summary. You can use your favorite site translator with this link)
This game console ended up in repair after trying to change the main menu theme. If BootMii isn't set as boot2, you shouldn't do such manipulations, it can lead to the System Menu ceasing to run, as it happened in the case of this console. There are no backups and no way to start anything. All we have is a black screen.
So, take the console apart, find and unsolder the nand flash, the Wii has 512 mb of it in a tsop-48 package.
T01.jpg

Dump, in our case using teensy 2.0+ and a little modified nandway.py for ps3, replace original boot2 with patched bootmii using wii flash toolz. But there is one condition here - the console must support this feature, which means it must have been produced before about the fourth quarter of 2008. We are lucky)
T02.jpg

Fill the dump back and add to the sd-card the files needed for bootmii and start the device with reset button pressed.
Choose "make backup", we get a dump with the keys. Open ohneswanzenegger, press "create new" and choose ours as a base for the new one. Then format and install the necessary packages (system menu and others necessary for normal operation), you can use NUS Downloader for this.
T03.jpg

T04.jpg

Fill in setting.txt (location, model, serial number of the device) and get a working dump of the device on the sd-card. Go back into bootmii and choose restore. After that everything should work.
Special message for the OP:
This case has nothing to do with yours. This case is much simpler and very different in general.
It is not worth trying to repeat it exactly step-by-step. It's not going to work in your case anyway.
 
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