Hacking How to make my old r4i-sdhc work on my 3ds under luma3ds ?

Sypherone · Nov 24, 2022

Spider_Man said:
question was can you use a different consoles sd card with Godmode9 to install it to my JAP console.

Sure, but only for homebrew stuff entered at boot like running godemode9 by boot holding start. Everything else installed to the primary 3DS menu cant be used on a secondary system, because its bound to the system with its ID in the Nintendo 3DS Folder. Therefore the System will create a new Nintendo 3DS folder.
As iam atm not sure if the primary Nintendo 3DS folder will be removed, back it up.

Spider_Man · Nov 24, 2022

M4x1mumReZ said:
As I and @Sypherone has already said before, you can brick your console if you restore the NAND of another console. If you mean preparing files, then yes.

Sorry still seems confused.

I am not trying to restore a NAND Backup of a different 3DS console.

The NAND Backup I have is of my JAP 3DS which I want to try re install to my JAP 3DS.

If you have set up CFW & Godmode9 on a different 3DS consoles SD card and its working fine (can enter Godmode9 by pressing Start on power up).

Can I remove that SD card, insert it into my JAP 3DS (which is Semi-Bricked) then re install my JAP NAND Backup using Godmode9.

I am not asking if I can use Godmode9 to install my AUS 3DS NAND to my JAP 3DS, the NAND Backup I have is of my JAP 3DS before it got Semi-Bricked.

Seeming that it is able to enter the Factory Recovery Mode, surely the console is not 100% bricked and I have a NAND Backup for that console, can you use another 3DS to fix another (Have NAND Backup for the console I want to fix).

SylverReZ · Nov 24, 2022

Spider_Man said:
Sorry still seems confused.

I am not trying to restore a NAND Backup of a different 3DS console.

The NAND Backup I have is of my JAP 3DS which I want to try re install.

If you have set up CFW & Godmode9 up a different 3DS consoles SD card and its working fine (can enter Godmode9 by pressing Start on power up).

Can I remove that SD card, insert it into my JAP 3DS (which is Semi-Bricked) then re install my JAP NAND Backup using Godmode9.

I am not asking if I can use Godmode9 to install my AUS 3DS NAND to my JAP 3DS, the NAND Backup I have is of my JAP 3DS before it got Semi-Bricked.

Seeming that it is able to enter the Factory Recovery Mode, surely the console is not 100% bricked and I have a NAND Backup for that console, can you use another 3DS to fix another (Have NAND Backup for the console I want to fix).

Oh, sorry. Your last posts really confused me because you didn't really explain much details. If you have a NAND backup for the console you are using, then yes you can restore it and re-install CFW.

Spider_Man · Nov 24, 2022

M4x1mumReZ said:
Oh, sorry. Your last posts really confused me. If you have a NAND backup for the console you are using, then yes you can restore it and re-install CFW.

But my JAP 3DS as said in first post didnt have CFW/Godmode9 set up.

Hence why I asked if my AUS 3DS which is running CFW/Godmode9.

Could it be possible to remove that SD card, insert it into my Semi Bricked JAP 3DS, and re install my Backup NAND of my JAP 3DS by copying my JAP 3DS NAND to the SD card.

Or is Godmode9 NAND Backup/Restore only work for the console that you set it up with.

Basically is there anything like a universal recovery method, where you can set something up on a 3DS that is working, to then insert into a Semi Bricked 3DS console and re install the NAND Backup you created for the console before it got Semi Bricked.

I apologise if i have made this sound very confusing....

I guess in very lamest terms, can you use a 3DS console that is working perfectly fine, to fix one that isn't (using the NAND Backup before the console stopped working properly)

SylverReZ · Nov 24, 2022

Sypherone said:
https://3ds.hacks.guide/ (different Language in upper right corner)
This guide is compatible with every retail device in the Nintendo 3DS family of consoles (including the New 3DS series and the 2DS), regardless of region or firmware.

Dont even think about it, the Nand is bound to the system by System ID. A Nand backup from different system will brick it.

From arm9loaderhax to boot9strap
https://3ds.hacks.guide/a9lh-to-b9s.html

Else check for troubleshooting
https://3ds.hacks.guide/troubleshooting

this ^

Sypherone · Nov 24, 2022

Spider_Man said:
If you have set up CFW & Godmode9 on a different 3DS consoles SD card and its working fine (can enter Godmode9 by pressing Start on power up).

Can I remove that SD card, insert it into my JAP 3DS (which is Semi-Bricked) then re install my JAP NAND Backup using Godmode9.

Only if you can enter godemode9 at boot on the secondary system. The SDCard with it files has no effect to other system, it will change nothing. Therefore the given link to change from A9LH to B9S.

//EDIT:

Basically is there anything like a universal recovery method, where you can set something up on a 3DS that is working, to then insert into a Semi Bricked 3DS console and re install the NAND Backup you created for the console before it got Semi Bricked.

Not in that way. If a Nandbackup dont exist or is corrupted, exist two methodes to recover the system. As primary CTRTransfer by godemode9 and as secondary CTRTransfer (Type decrypt9).

SylverReZ · Nov 24, 2022

Just follow the guide on installing Luma3DS and setting everything up as usual, and you should be good to go.

Spider_Man · Nov 25, 2022

M4x1mumReZ said:
Just follow the guide on installing Luma3DS and setting everything up as usual, and you should be good to go.

But that is impossible if the console is Semi Bricked.

Or is they're a way of setting up and SD card to do this?

Kwyjor · Nov 25, 2022

You really should have started a new thread about this.

Let's start here:

Spider_Man said:
Basically when I power the JAP 3DS on, nothing happens, I just get 2 black screens with the console LED light up blue.

What happens if you remove the SD card before turning on the 3DS?

Spider_Man · Nov 26, 2022

Kwyjor said:
You really should have started a new thread about this.

Let's start here:

What happens if you remove the SD card before turning on the 3DS?

nothing, because the console is semi bricked.

it will not do anything other than get into Factory Recovery if I press the buttons on power up.

If i turn on with or without an sd card in the console, it just sits on a black screen and the power LED is blue.

I have tried to insert the SD card from my AUS 3DS and hold START and nothing.

So its a shame, seems there is nothing I can do to try install my NAND backup, i guess for some reason CFW/Godmode9 is locked to the console it was initially set up on.

I was hoping it was something you can set up on the SD Card that could run on any 3DS console upon powering it on.

Kinda like the PS2 with FMCB you can configure it to run only on that console or do it to work on any console.

I was really hoping I could recover my JAP 3DS console to continue using Gateway 3DS flash cart for its cheat making feature on the flashcard.

Plus its easier (in my eyes) to just drag/drop a .3ds rom onto an SD card than having to mess about dropping a CIA onto an SD card, install it, then delete the CIA because you would then require 2x the storage, firstly to have the CIA on the SD card, then space to install it.

I was thinking of just looking online and buying a new 3DS that has already been set up with CFW installed, but ideally Id want the set up i already had, downgraded for Gateway 3DS to work and it be region free can run roms of any region and even install CIA files if i needed and nothing else needed to create my own cheat codes.

Thats basically the only reason I bothered picking my 3DS up again, I wanted to come back and start making cheat codes for it again because I am bored of doing Switch cheats and I left that to do PS4 cheats.

But i go through stages where I spend all my time playing one console, then decide to go to another and considering I own nearly every console from the PS1 upwards, I have plenty of options of what to play and to make cheat codes for.

Sypherone · Nov 27, 2022

I took some research. First of all, we must difference between arm9loaderhax and boot9strap, as they are need different files, file type and file structure. A9LH needs .bin and B9S .firm as file type. As information here the outdated A9HL guide . And since luma build v7.1 there is no support for A9LH as entry point. So you will need for A9LH support luma3DS version 7.05 (May 7, 2017) and also for use godmode.bin v1.2.8 (Jul 29, 2017).

Spider_Man said:
I have tried to insert the SD card from my AUS 3DS and hold START and nothing.
I was hoping it was something you can set up on the SD Card that could run on any 3DS console upon powering it on.

On the 2DS/3DS you need atleast access to godemode9 (thats your all in one for everything tool) at boot to get possibilitys to recover the system. So as your using A9LH verify you use the correct related file structur and files.

In worst case the screens are black and if you cant enter luma menu (hold select at boot) or godemode9 (hold start at boot) your console is bricked heavely. The last chance would be a NTR compatible Flashcard to install boot9strap, ~~but as you have A9LH installed iam not sure atm if this is possible without damaging the system irreparable.~~

Spider_Man said:
i guess for some reason CFW/Godmode9 is locked to the console it was initially set up.

No its not. The main hack is A9LH (needs .bin) or B9S (needs .firm) which will load your desired custom.firm or .bin and checks for it on specific location on your SDCard or CTRNAnd. By holding start at boot the located firm\bin in /luma/payloads/ will be loaded which is by standard godemode9. In case there are more firm\bin files located (e.g. a nativ.firm, Hourglas9.firm, Derypt9WIP.firm, Open_GBA_firm, gateway.bin) the luma chainloader menu will appear where you can choose which firm to run. BUT you are using arm9loaderhax, in this case you need a godemode9.bin not *.firm .

Spider_Man said:
I was really hoping I could recover my JAP 3DS console to continue using Gateway 3DS flash cart.
Ideally I want the set up i already had, downgraded for Gateway 3DS to work

Gateway needs (very) low firmware on a 3DS and is officially only supported until 9.2. There exist a guide for Luma+Gateway on B9S until 3DS firmware 11.2 . Latest supported version by some user modified version (Frankenstein firmware) is 11.5 or 11.7 .

Kwyjor · Nov 27, 2022

Indeed, if all else fails, an ntrboot flashcart can be used to recover a console that is otherwise mostly dead.

SylverReZ · Nov 27, 2022

You would need a spare DS if you are going re-program the flashcard seeing as your DS is semi-bricked.
Follow this guide: https://3ds.hacks.guide/ntrboot.html

Sypherone · Nov 27, 2022

Kwyjor said:
Indeed, if all else fails, an ntrboot flashcart can be used to recover a console that is otherwise mostly dead.

Yes, but was your answer also related that he has still Arm9Loaderhax not Boot9strap on his 3DS as bootrom? As iam not sure in this point, if then ntrboot can easely be used.

B9S is a bootrom exploit that runs a lot earlier in the boot process in comparison to Armloader9hax (A9LH), allowing access to new system files that A9LH didn't

Source: gamebrew.org boot9strap

// EDIT : OK, related to this post of @The Catboy its possible. And as seen in the guides, the A9LH to B9S Methode also NTRboot uses the SafeB9Sinstaller for boot9strap. So possible without issues.

Kwyjor · Nov 27, 2022

I'm still confused by:

Spider_Man said:
it was running Arm9Loader Hax and I think MenuHax to boot into Homebrew Loader by setting it to a button (DPad Down) when powering the console on

I mean, MenuHax never had anything to do with A9LH, did it? That's why I was thinking it could just be a home menu extdata problem, but that would be fixed by removing the SD card.

I am also reminded of this recent discussion where messing with firmware proved to be completely fruitless since the camera was at fault.

Spider_Man · Dec 1, 2022

Thanks for the responses.

Ive been ill past few days, will read through comments and links today.

Touch wood i can recover my 3DS, it would be a shame to have it sat there semi bricked.

I guess keeping it on its current firmware for gateway isn't as important, just want to get it working again.

I guess there are other tools to make 3DS cheat codes other than Gatways flash card. I set up citra and wow when it comes to 3DS cheats there are far too many out there where users haven't checked that the codes work properly.

But I knew this already and was going to come back onto the 3DS and go through games and either make cheats for ones that have none or make ones that actually work.

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Sypherone said:
I took some research. First of all, we must difference between arm9loaderhax and boot9strap, as they are need different files, file type and file structure. A9LH needs .bin and B9S .firm as file type. As information here the outdated A9HL guide . And since luma build v7.1 there is no support for A9LH as entry point. So you will need for A9LH support luma3DS version 7.05 (May 7, 2017) and also for use godmode.bin v1.2.8 (Jul 29, 2017).

On the 2DS/3DS you need atleast access to godemode9 (thats your all in one for everything tool) at boot to get possibilitys to recover the system. So as your using A9LH verify you use the correct related file structur and files.

In worst case the screens are black and if you cant enter luma menu (hold select at boot) or godemode9 (hold start at boot) your console is bricked heavely. The last chance would be a NTR compatible Flashcard to install boot9strap, ~~but as you have A9LH installed iam not sure atm if this is possible without damaging the system irreparable.~~

No its not. The main hack is A9LH (needs .bin) or B9S (needs .firm) which will load your desired custom.firm or .bin and checks for it on specific location on your SDCard or CTRNAnd. By holding start at boot the located firm\bin in /luma/payloads/ will be loaded which is by standard godemode9. In case there are more firm\bin files located (e.g. a nativ.firm, Hourglas9.firm, Derypt9WIP.firm, Open_GBA_firm, gateway.bin) the luma chainloader menu will appear where you can choose which firm to run. BUT you are using arm9loaderhax, in this case you need a godemode9.bin not *.firm .

Gateway needs (very) low firmware on a 3DS and is officially only supported until 9.2. There exist a guide for Luma+Gateway on B9S until 3DS firmware 11.2 . Latest supported version by some user modified version (Frankenstein firmware) is 11.5 or 11.7 .

As I am reading through the posts, some of your links sound familiar, was years ago when I downgraded this JAP 3DS and set it up and its not really been touched for a very long time.

I thought, maybe if I post a screen grab of my 3DS consoles SD card may help find exactly what it was I did years back and if possible the method to try re install the JAP NAND backup I have.

I cant seem to get anything to show on-screen as currently set up on this consoles SD card.

But surely if its able to enter the Factory Restore mode then its not fully bricked, just cant get it to download the latest update because its a JAP console I guess and I'm in the UK.

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