Trump Raid and the End of the United States (Padraig Martin)

[Xzi]

Lets just make things up now!

Literally the only logical conclusion unless you're gullible enough to believe he took the documents as souvenirs, and he stole a number of White House paintings on his way out for that purpose.

 

[kevin corms]

Literally the only logical conclusion unless you're gullible enough to believe he took the documents as souvenirs, and he stole a number of White House paintings on his way out for that purpose.

First off, they didn't find any documents. You are reading articles from journalists publishing misinformation given from intelligence and then going full alex jones. How many times can they investigate this man based on lies and still have people believe in it? The problem is that everything Trump did wrong isnt illegal and the worst of it is being continued by Biden and friends.

Morevover, we have a war in Ukraine where nuclear power plants are being shelled.. while you guys are glued to a cartoon.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Literally the only logical conclusion unless you believe he took the documents as souvenirs, and he stole a number of White House paintings on his way out for that purpose.

I'd hope your wrong. (since that means he didn't do that.)
But... Given that it was stated that people that did not have qualifications or rights to see some of the documents were seeing them. Kinda hard to argue.

The oligarchs, the ones who really have control. Ill give an example even someone simple minded can understand, in what country can the president be kicked off social media?

Former president. And, yesn't to the oligarch statement.

A lot of your folk drive up the wrong bark.
For example (I'm not saying your in this camp. First time I've seen you. Or at least, in memory)
Remember the whole "vaccines and big pharma" situation?
It was painted as a narrative were people were forcefully getting vaccinated, and that it was to assert control and some other conspiracy shiz?

That was the wrong bark. And even then, it ended up with that camp doubling down with big pharma (buying shit they didn't need, which came from massive pharmaceutical companies. Which some grifters got a cut of.)

What should of been focused off of was that corporations profited off of the covid vaccine patent. Which was going to be free (until patented)
Making the rest of the (poorer) world suffer.

So let's look at twitter now.
It should be concerned that media companies and their algorithms aren't exposed at all. We already know that it heavily favors right wing content, primarily being a stronger source of reactions and a lot of studies.
In other words, I don't take issue with Trump being booted off the platform.
I take issue with twitters entire existence. And we know that twitter profits (like facebook) off of those advertisements and your user data. If they found leftist content profitable, they would do it. Obiviously it isn't since well, leftism straight up is anti corporate/pro union.

 

[Xzi]

First off, they didn't find any documents. You are reading articles from journalists publishing misinformation given from intelligence and then going full alex jones.

Rofl, "they didn't find anything except the twelve boxes of highly classified documents they recovered." It's also hilarious how fast Trump's cultists did a 180 on wanting the details of the warrant to be made public after he screeched about it on social media. We'll know for sure what exactly the FBI was looking for and what they found soon enough.

I'd hope your wrong. (since that means he didn't do that.)

If I am right it means they have concrete evidence that he has attempted to sell it, so he's ultra-fucked, legally speaking.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Trump's cultists did a 180

they do that all time.

Back the blue!
Suddenly:
The FBI is corrupt burn it down!
Them:
Those communist anarchist leftists are burning it all down, they're awful for not following the law
Also them: at fucking CPAC

Really on the nose with this one. It's almost like... idk
They are fascists or something?
Like facists will say what they want to do to people. We already see that much (my signature is proof of that)

 

[kevin corms]

Rofl, "they didn't find anything except the twelve boxes of highly classified documents they recovered." It's also hilarious how fast Trump's cultists did a 180 on wanting the details of the warrant to be made public after he screeched about it on social media. We'll know for sure what exactly the FBI was looking for and what they found soon enough.


If I am right it means they have concrete evidence that he has attempted to sell it, so he's ultra-fucked, legally speaking.

You got it wrong, they removed boxes of documents and claim some were classified. Considering their track record, ill call complete bs. It would be known if he took them as soon as he did. The whole nuclear secrets thing is ridiculous as well, but its you that will be disappointed later.

 

[kevin corms]

they do that all time.

Back the blue!
Suddenly:
The FBI is corrupt burn it down!
Them:
Those communist anarchist leftists are burning it all down, they're awful for not following the law
Also them: at fucking CPAC


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Really on the nose with this one. It's almost like... idk
They are fascists or something?
Like facists will say what they want to do to people. We already see that much (my signature is proof of that)

Fascists are people who go around intimidating people they dont agree with, they dehumanize others and think if they just agreed with them everything would work out. Plenty on both "sides". Its also funny the "left" all hated the agencies until suddenly they were mean to Trump, now they love them?

 

[Xzi]

You got it wrong, they removed boxes of documents and claim some were classified.

As if you could get a search warrant signed by the AG and FBI director for a bunch of beauty magazines, rofl. Of course they were classified.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Fascists are people who go around intimidating people they dont agree with, they dehumanize others and think if they just agreed with them everything would work out. Plenty on both "sides".

False.
There isn't "plenty on both sides"
Facists are ultra nationalist who believe that their country, or a particular x quality of them, is superior to others, or believe that it should be the way things are run, and will prioritize power over others beyond all else, including self destruction.

Fascism is and always has been a far right wing ideology. Fascism is a specific form of authoritarianism (in which yes you'd be correct there were some left leaning authoritarians)
This country has a center right, and far right party. as a result of capitalists gaining more and more power, we've entered late stage capitalism, and at the borderline risk of falling into fascism.

If you don't believe me, read my signature. Look at those people. I can unequivocally call them facists. I don't do that because "muh feelings" it's because they match the idealogy extremely closely. They strongly other people, happy that people's civil rights are being banned, under the pretense that it's "states rights" the same argument for slavery of all things, and call themselves patriots.

 

[kevin corms]

False.
There isn't "plenty on both sides"
Facists are ultra nationalist who believe that their country, or a particular x quality of them, is superior to others, or believe that it should be the way things are run, and will prioritize power over others beyond all else, including self destruction.

Fascism is and always has been a far right wing ideology. Fascism is a specific form of authoritarianism (in which yes you'd be correct there were some left leaning authoritarians)
This country has a center right, and far right party. as a result of capitalists gaining more and more power, we've entered late stage capitalism, and at the borderline risk of falling into fascism.

If you don't believe me, read my signature. Look at those people. I can unequivocally call them facists. I don't do that because "muh feelings" it's because they match the idealogy extremely closely. They strongly other people, happy that people's civil rights are being banned, under the pretense that it's "states rights" the same argument for slavery of all things.

Im going to look at quotes on a forum signature from a lunatic?

It has nothing to do with nationalism or imaginary lines. Once leaders dehumanize people for any reason, they are fascists. The original fascist party was started by socialists who thought their culture was superior to everyone else... study Mussolini and stop playing whack a mole on twitter bots.

 

[Xzi]

It has nothing to do with nationalism or imaginary lines.

You're right, it's much easier to just call "christian nationalists" neo-nazis instead of dancing around with more generalized terminology.

 

[kevin corms]

You're right, it's much easier to just call "christian nationalists" neo-nazis instead of dancing around with more generalized terminology.

Seems way too vague, racists are racists. Doesnt matter what religion they believe in or how much they love the country. I think thats what you are getting at? The racists that bother me the most are the ones who pretend to be nice, like the feel bad for other races being "inferior"; especially politicians like Biden who use that train of thought to their advantage. I was really looking forward to Bernie Sanders being president...

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Im going to look at quotes on a forum signature from a lunatic?

It has nothing to do with nationalism or imaginary lines. Once leaders dehumanize people for any reason, they are fascists. The original fascist party was started by socialists who thought their culture was superior to everyone else... study Mussolini and stop playing whack a mole on twitter bots.

Bullshit
Maybe you just watch the channel and don't check sources. But I just did.
First off, he bases his video off of previous videos as sources. Not very professional. Further more when you have historically inaccurate videos on the channel such as "The Nazi privatization myth" Or trying to claim Hitler as socialist. NONE OF THAT matches history.

Hitler claimed he was a socialist. This is a tatic used by facists, they use x likable concept to gain power, but not actually support it.
Like remember how Trump was supposed to "drain the swamp" and he never did that?
Further more (going to have to use this again)
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller

let's pay attention to who they came after first.

they came for the socialists. Then the trade unions. Those were the opposing idealogy to hitler. If hitler truly supported socialism, why would he come after his own party?

Further more, removing unions is a pro captalist move.

We live in that kind of hell hole right now. We don't get any access to unions. Or if we do,our bosses will just right us down for a different reason and then fire us.

Further more, We know that facism has to find a new scapegoat non stop. As with hitler it reached the point that if your eyes weren't blue you were aborted, or if you weren't white you were aborted. But facists will always remove their opposition first, before getting to that point, because they want to secure a zone without opposition, or any rhetoric that could oppose them.

 

[kevin corms]

Bullshit
Maybe you just watch the channel and don't check sources. But I just did.
First off, he bases his video off of previous videos as sources. Not very professional. Further more when you have historically inaccurate videos on the channel such as "The Nazi privatization myth" Or trying to claim Hitler as socialist. NONE OF THAT matches history.

Hitler claimed he was a socialist. This is a tatic used by facists, they use x likable concept to gain power, but not actually support it.
Like remember how Trump was supposed to "drain the swamp" and he never did that?
Further more (going to have to use this again)
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists


let's pay attention to who they came after first.

they came for the socialists. Then the trade unions. Those were the opposing idealogy to hitler. If hitler truly supported socialism, why would he come after his own party?

Further more, We know that facism has to find a new scapegoat non stop. As with hitler it reached the point that if your eyes weren't blue you were aborted, or if you weren't white you were aborted. But facists will always remove their opposition first, before getting to that point, because they want to secure a zone without opposition, or any rhetoric that could oppose them.

I said study Mussolini, the guy who defined fascism. Hitler was a coked up mad man. Mussolini didnt even like the man, but if you study you can see why he dealt with him anyway. I dont expect to "win" this discussion, im just pleading with people to expand what they look at.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Im going to look at quotes on a forum signature from a lunatic?

Really?

The original fascist party was started by socialists

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller

No, socialists didn't support Hitler. Hitler claimed he was a socialist. But his actions weren't that. He wouldn't target them first if he was pro socialists.
This also means that no, Hitler was pro corporation since he wasn't pro union.

I said study Mussolini, the guy who defined fascism

I'm pretty damn sure that Hitler takes the cake on that one. But regardless, that's unessary since both Mussolini and Hitler are cut from the same cloth.
FFS, It's even more blatant. Benito Mussolini's party was
"Republican Fascist party"
Are you trying to make your case more difficult?

 

[Xzi]

Seems way too vague, racists are racists. Doesnt matter what religion they believe in or how much they love the country. I think thats what you are getting at?

Nationalism is the belief that your country is inherently superior to all others, and generally leads to a person being unable to identify or acknowledge any flaws in their nation; past, present, or future. If that sounds familiar, it should, because racists have the same superiority complex in connection to race, almost always their own. So it follows that racists become nationalists, and nationalists become racists, it's an easy jump to make. Assuming one doesn't break the cycle of those psychological pitfalls, anyway, and a lot of people are incapable of managing to do that by themselves.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

I said study Mussolini, the guy who defined fascism. Hitler was a coked up mad man. Mussolini didnt even like the man, but if you study you can see why he dealt with him anyway. I dont expect to "win" this discussion, im just pleading with people to expand what they look at.

Nonsense. The guy who "defined fascism" is actually professor Umberto Eco and he said, in no uncertain terms, there is a plurality of fascist movements, So your whole idea of "only mussolini represents fascism" is absolute shite.

And if you want to quote George Orwell, do it properly, not with a stupid youtube video.

 

[Coto]

Ah yes, the mythical Hunter Biden laptop.

How come that and Hillary's e-mails are supposedly hard evidence and they havent been found before the motherfucking nuclear documents of Mar-a-lago?

Also, Irán? My dude, Irán is the country that PAID for the fascist party in my country created by the Opus Dei and trained by Steve Bannon.

Really:

Next time trying to assert a point, try to backup with facts, you make your country look like stupid assholes.

 

[AncientBoi]

FUQ YOU tRuMp SUPPORTERS !

THEY DID FIND NATIONAL SECURITY FILES IN HIS HOME! FILES HE WAS NOT ENTITLED TO HAVE !

So stop it you bunch of KARENS and DARRENS !

 

[kevin corms]

Nonsense. The guy who "defined fascism" is actually professor Umberto Eco and he said, in no uncertain terms, there is a plurality of fascist movements, So your whole idea of "only mussolini represents fascism" is absolute shite.

And if you want to quote George Orwell, do it properly, not with a stupid youtube video.

The guy who defined fascism is the guy who created the fascist party... I dont appreciate your stupid fallacy argument.