TheFlow has discovered a major exploit called bd-jb for PS3, PS4, and PS5, can be used to load game backups burned to discs

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One of the PlayStation scene's most notable figures, TheFlow (Andy Nguyen), is back at it again. He's discovered a major exploit that affects not just one PlayStation console, but three. A hackerone report by TheFlow sheds light on five vulnerabilities that range in effectiveness, allowing users to load payloads that can be used to exploit the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, and even the PlayStation 5. The exploit is referred to as bd-jb, or the Blu-ray Disc Java Sandbox Escape, and was featured during a panel at this year's hardwear.io security conference.

Below are 5 vulnerabilities chained together that allows an attacker to gain JIT capabilities and execute arbitrary payloads. The provided payload triggers a buffer overflow that causes a kernel panic. Please consider each of the vulnerabilities individually. AFAIK, this is the first exploit chain that is being submitted to you :)

According to Nguyen's report, a UDF driver can cause an overflow on both the PS4 and the PS5. An exploit chain, aka bd-jb, can then be loaded as the payload as a burned Blu-ray disc. The hack, in summary, will allow users to burn physical discs of game backups, and then play them on their consoles. This affects PlayStation 4 consoles below OFW 9.50, and PlayStation 5 systems that are below OFW 5.0.

With these vulnerabilities, it is possible to ship pirated games on bluray discs. That is possible even without a kernel exploit as we have JIT capabilities.



TheFlow's panel that discusses the exploit in detail will be uploaded in "a few weeks". The full hackerone report and all of its technical details can be read about below.

Following the initial report, TheFlow made an update to his claims.



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The price may increase eventually.
It's not particularly cheap anyway, burning discs specifically BR is just too expensive still even at around $25-30, the time to burn (which is about 2 hours)

I guess it is worth it for new games.

I remember burning DL DVD's for 360 games, even that was a PITA, can imagine this is much worse, tying up a PC for 2 hours while it's writing, hoping of no failures, too long winded to be viable imo.

But it's probably the case that a lot of games actually aren't the full 100gb, may get away with a 50gb for some
 
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It's not particularly cheap anyway, burning discs specifically BR is just too expensive still even at around $25-30, the time to burn (which is about 2 hours)

I guess it is worth it for new games.

I remember burning DL DVD's for 360 games, even that was a PITA, can imagine this is much worse, tying up a PC for 2 hours while it's writing, hoping of no failures, too long winded to be viable imo.

But it's probably the case that a lot of games actually aren't the full 100gb, may get away with a 50gb for some
Well, apparently, HFW is 97GB for the ps4 version and 98GB for the ps5 version
Expect it to be about the same for most AAA games
 

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I was going off a few non AAA releases I'd seen

But games are getting bigger so you're probably roght
You know, I wanted to download and play PUBG Battlegrounds (F2P) on my 9.60 PS4, but the freaking game is over 80GBs in total (at least 10hrs to dl all)!

Nintendo can compress games amazingly while others reach nearly 100GBs.
 
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So maybe there will be an unlocking disc to hack your playstation to read games from somewhere else?
I don't know why I care, got no time to game. I'm just so mind blown by TheFlow (for like the 10th time)
 
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So maybe there will be an unlocking disc to hack your playstation to read games from somewhere else?
I don't know why I care, got no time to game. I'm just so mind blown by TheFlow (for like the 10th time)
you've got no time to game?
Then why the fuck are you here? :tpi:
 

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Quick Question - The Flow was talking about using BD-RE discs he said "Not to use BD-R ones because they're writable once"

What is wrong with just using BD-R ones??
Well, it says right there. Use once only.

RW allows to burn and rewrite.
 
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Well, it says right there. Use once only.

RW allows to burn and rewrite.

Ok….. so Basically just to re-write another game over it and that’s all? I guess I thought There was some bigger picture I was missing with the BD-RE discs.
 

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