Covid-19 vaccine

[Dakitten]

Something my spouse made recently after viewing some of this thread with me~ Thanks for the inspiration, folks!

 

[NyaakoXD]

Something my spouse made recently after viewing some of this thread with me~ Thanks for the inspiration, folks!

I see someone's a fan of FGO.

 

[appleburger]

Pretty easy risk assessment, imo

Seems very clear to me that the risks COVID imposes are much more likely to affect the vast majority of us, meanwhile vaccine complications aren't nearly as likely. I also see a lot of posts referring to sudo-science that could easily be debunked by reading up on some high-level, easy to read explanations as to how vaccines work in the first place from multiple reputable sources. We've studied and used vaccines for much longer than we've studied COVID, and I'm personally going the route of science on this one, versus speculation from folks who haven't bothered to do any real homework.

I really wish we all valued where we source our information from more. The biggest issue with COVID, in my opinion, has been education. If we all put in the effort to hold our sources up to a golden standard, I think this "debate" would be up there with Flat Earth and Lizard People.

 

[Immortallix]

 

[Dakitten]

As is the stupidity that perpetuates the problem...

 

[Dr_Faustus]

Had it since March, the vaccine that is. I'm fine, nothing wrong with me health wise aside from the stuff I had prior from the shot, and that's just poor eating habits.

Also had covid back in December too, (got it on Christmas day as a matter of fact!) And I had a fever that lasted 7+ days with temps high enough that I had to self cool down in my bathtub with cold water to help lower my temp and keep myself stable. Because like hell the ER was going to take my young arse in over the others who probably could have died from it if they were older.

After having to deal with that I'm glad to have the vaccine. I don't want to deal with that shit again. Anyone who refuses to get it must be lucky and haven't gotten covid bad yet, because if you had it and lived past the torture the virus can cause on you, you too wouldn't want to have it again. Don't be foolish and play russian roulette with your immune system and those around you. Be smart and just get the vaccine, so we can get on with our collective lives and move past this stop gap shit pile of a time we live in.

 

[appleburger]

This is just social commentary, using the "left" and "right" archetype to talk about the attitude this dude is seeing through the lens of social media. Not very useful for this discussion. I already take issue with boxing millions of people into simple "right" "left" politics as it is, so I don't see any value in this video.

Discussing these social issues with such a broad brush is inherently flawed, in my opinion. I mean, how many people do you know that don't fully identify with the two political parties we have in the US? Many, many of us fall somewhere on the spectrum depending on the issue at hand.

So, bucketing a population of millions into two "characters" based on "left/right" leaning tweets is just a weak point of observation. I think focusing on the science is the far more productive angle to talk about this issue, because you can actually scrutinize what's happening objectively, if you're willing to go down the rabbit hole and see what's actually likely to work or not.

 

[Immortallix]

This is just social commentary, using the "left" and "right" archetype to talk about the attitude this dude is seeing through the lens of social media. Not very useful for this discussion. I already take issue with boxing millions of people into simple "right" "left" politics as it is, so I don't see any value in this video.

Discussing these social issues with such a broad brush is inherently flawed, in my opinion. I mean, how many people do you know that don't fully identify with the two political parties we have in the US? Many, many of us fall somewhere on the spectrum depending on the issue at hand.

So, bucketing a population of millions into two "characters" based on "left/right" leaning tweets is just a weak point of observation. I think focusing on the science is the far more productive angle to talk about this issue, because you can actually scrutinize what's happening objectively, if you're willing to go down the rabbit hole and see what's actually likely to work or not.

Funny you say that since most of the pro covax people in this thread have been doing just that, lumping everyone who disagrees into the same general anti-vax, anti-science group. All while defending everything leftist politicians, corps/orgs, & media does.

 

[Lacius]

Funny you say that since most of the pro covax people in this thread have been doing just that, lumping everyone who disagrees into the same general anti-vax, anti-science group. All while defending everything leftist politicians, corps/orgs, & media does.

To be against the COVID-19 vaccine is to be anti-vax and anti-science.

 

[tabzer]

To be against the COVID-19 vaccine is to be anti-vax and anti-science.

No it's not. You can be against the "COVID-19 vaccine" and still be pro-vax and pro-science.

 

[impeeza]

Exacly. Remember the so called covid-19 "vaccine" is NOT A Vaccine. Is a genetic treatment. The problem with SARS-Cov2 is the human body can not generates natural antibodies for it.

 

[appleburger]

Funny you say that since most of the pro covax people in this thread have been doing just that, lumping everyone who disagrees into the same general anti-vax, anti-science group. All while defending everything leftist politicians, corps/orgs, & media does.

Sure, lumping people into groups on either side of any argument is weak, I agree. That’s why I said that.

Not once in this thread have I done that - just dropping the facts and asking leading questions to better understand where the rest of you are coming from.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

I got mine, although I did wait quite a few months.... messing with RNA and all that I wanted to see how things played out. Mostly everyone seemed fine so I got my second shot a few weeks back. Still no mutations although I will say this lizard skin is really itchy.... lol (I kid I kid)

 

[Dakitten]

No it's not. You can be against the "COVID-19 vaccine" and still be pro-vax and pro-science.

Well, no, actually. The science shows covid vaccinations are useful and extremely limited in their occurrence of noteworthy reactions, and it... is a vaccine, for something actively killing millions. If you're against the use and advocacy of the vaccine, and don't have any sources to show how the above statements are incorrect, you ARE anti-vax and anti-science. Simple, eh?

 

[KingVamp]

Either through mRNA or a weaken version of the virus, they are both helping you prepare for the real thing.

 

[Xzi]

Exacly. Remember the so called covid-19 "vaccine" is NOT A Vaccine. Is a genetic treatment. The problem with SARS-Cov2 is the human body can not generates natural antibodies for it.

I'm sure this has been covered a thousand times in this thread already, but that's misinformation. The mRNA vaccines do not alter or even reach the human genome, they simply signal your cells to build their own spike protein. And the J&J vaccine is solely of the "traditional" variety, it uses dead/dying cold cells to deliver a C19 spike protein for your immune system to fight off. So even those who are skeptical of the mRNA vaccines, for whatever silly reason, have no excuse for not getting the J&J vaccine instead.

 

[Chary]

Has anyone discussed how the vaccine possibly affects women's periods?

Women said the COVID vaccine affected their periods. Now more than $1.6 million will go into researching it (Seattle Times)

I was concerned about this but a little dubious, when it came to getting my first shot. Side effects overall to the vaccine were kind of meh, except for that factor. Legitimately was in some of the worst pain of my life. After how bad the first shot was, I'm hesitant to get my second next week (though it won't be stopping me entirely...I'm just a bit worried)

I'm sure there's nothing bad long term--everything reported only seems to last a few months, but it's cropped up enough to warrant research into it. I just wish there was more information regarding it so I could be more certain.

 

[SG854]

Has anyone discussed how the vaccine possibly affects women's periods?

Women said the COVID vaccine affected their periods. Now more than $1.6 million will go into researching it (Seattle Times)

I was concerned about this but a little dubious, when it came to getting my first shot. Side effects overall to the vaccine were kind of meh, except for that factor. Legitimately was in some of the worst pain of my life. After how bad the first shot was, I'm hesitant to get my second next week (though it won't be stopping me entirely...I'm just a bit worried)

I'm sure there's nothing bad long term--everything reported only seems to last a few months, but it's cropped up enough to warrant research into it. I just wish there was more information regarding it so I could be more certain.

Site can't be reached

 

[Chary]

Site can't be reached

Not sure why the link didn't work:

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...than-1-6-million-will-go-into-researching-it/

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56901353

 

[Xzi]

Has anyone discussed how the vaccine possibly affects women's periods?

Women said the COVID vaccine affected their periods. Now more than $1.6 million will go into researching it (Seattle Times)

I was concerned about this but a little dubious, when it came to getting my first shot. Side effects overall to the vaccine were kind of meh, except for that factor. Legitimately was in some of the worst pain of my life. After how bad the first shot was, I'm hesitant to get my second next week (though it won't be stopping me entirely...I'm just a bit worried)

I'm sure there's nothing bad long term--everything reported only seems to last a few months, but it's cropped up enough to warrant research into it. I just wish there was more information regarding it so I could be more certain.

Finally a legitimate concern. I wonder why this wasn't reported during clinical trials, or if it was, why it was ignored. Also curious to find out whether it's exclusive to one type of vaccine or the other. Guess we'll find out soon enough.