Covid-19 vaccine

[ut2k4master]

Look who's talking.

"no you!1!"

 

[linuxares]

Whether you believe the vaccines are experimental or not depends on your personal definition of experimental. In any case, it's hard to argue that their long term effects are well understood. In theory maybe, but you have to wait "long term" to gather the actual data. There is, however, plenty of data that it's better to get vaccinated than not when it comes to positive outcomes of Covid infection. It's also possible to have positive outcomes without being vaccinated but that is a much bigger gamble. Also, people seem to love bringing up side effects of vaccines but how do you know there are no long term effects of asymptomatic Covid infection that would've been mitigated by vaccine?

But we been using mRNA since the 90s... it's kind of long term no?

 

[djpannda]

Whether you believe the vaccines are experimental or not

its not a matter of Believing or not ... it is no longer experimental/Emergency. Here is the Link where the FDA Approved it
FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine
as for the long term effects, Testing usually provides a Good Outlook on effects MRNA ( which is low/non)
but by that same token, we don't Definitely dont know the long term effect of the COVID Virus have on our systems

 

[Foxi4]

There’s something to be said about the speed at which the vaccines have been developed and put on the market, however you have to consider the sample size. The reason why controlled trials take forever is because they’re very small and stretched apart. Now more than half of the world got the jab - young people, old people, white, black, thin, obese, men, women - you have a huge group of patients with a variety of different characteristics doing just fine. I personally find that a satisfactory test run.

 

[djpannda]

There’s something to be said about the speed at which the vaccines have been developed and put on the market, however you have to consider the sample size. The reason why controlled trials take forever is because they’re very small and stretched apart. Now more than half of the world got the jab - young people, old people, white, black, thin, obese, men, women - you have a huge group of patients with a variety of different characteristics doing just fine. I personally find that a satisfactory test run.

lol This is the largest Test sample in History bout 2-3 billion people so far.. I would say that should be a sufficient sample.

 

[Foxi4]

lol This is the largest Test sample in History bout 2-3 billion people so far.. I would say that should be a sufficient sample.

3.27 billion had at least one dose, 2.3 billion are fully vaccinated, so technically you’re dealing with 5.6 billion individual jabs (2.3x2). As it turns out, we didn’t go extinct as a result.

 

[djpannda]

we didn’t go extinct as a result.

"We didn't go extinct" ....YET!!!! There still time for the Virus to Mutate into Death itself..

 

[Deleted member 535703]

But we been using mRNA since the 90s... it's kind of long term no?

Not to mention the amount of research and development that has gone into it. I trust mRNA more than I trust literally any other form of vaccination.



For those of you looking into a horse dewormer, literally go to a mental institution. They provide no help, and can cause unintended side effects, since well, it's made for a 840 pound animal.

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"We didn't go extinct" ....YET!!!! There still time for the Virus to Mutate into Death itself..

If the virus mutates one more effing time I'm going to (insert generic exaggeration here).

 

[linuxares]

Not to mention the amount of research and development that has gone into it. I trust mRNA more than I trust literally any other form of vaccination.



For those of you looking into a horse dewormer, literally go to a mental institution. They provide no help, and can cause unintended side effects, since well, it's made for a 840 pound animal.

Well they do help... if you got worms. And a doctor prescribed a HUMAN DOSE and not a bloody horse.

 

[djpannda]

They provide no help, and can cause unintended side effects, since well, it's made for a 840 pound animal.

"unintended Side Effects" you mean that the Blindness from overdosing and Reports of sterility where not on the box.?

 

[Deleted member 535703]

Well they do help... if you got worms. And a doctor prescribed a HUMAN DOSE and not a bloody horse.

Yeah, but Joe Rogan took Ivermectin for COVID. What an idiot.

"unintended Side Effects" you mean that the Blindness from overdosing and Reports of sterility where not on the box.?

More like death but yeah, you've got the point. Taking dewormers for covid won't do anything since COVID is commonly known for not being a worm.

 

[djpannda]

Yeah, but Joe Rogan took Ivermectin for COVID. What an idiot.

More like death but yeah, you've got the point. Taking dewormers for covid won't do anything since COVID is commonly known for not being a worm.

Thats where they get you... secrets that Big Pharm does not want you to know!! lol

 

[Deleted member 535703]

Thats where they get you... secrets that Big Pharm does not want you to know!! lol

I Found TEN SECRETS the GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW!!! (Gone Wrong)

 

[NyaakoXD]

Yeah, but Joe Rogan took Ivermectin for COVID. What an idiot.

More like death but yeah, you've got the point. Taking dewormers for covid won't do anything since COVID is commonly known for not being a worm.

I'm sure many of these folks that have "taken" Ivermectin and "recovered" are actually fully vaccinated and are pretty much lying through their teeth and pretend that COVID was nothing and Ivermectin did help.

 

[subcon959]

There’s something to be said about the speed at which the vaccines have been developed and put on the market, however you have to consider the sample size. The reason why controlled trials take forever is because they’re very small and stretched apart. Now more than half of the world got the jab - young people, old people, white, black, thin, obese, men, women - you have a huge group of patients with a variety of different characteristics doing just fine. I personally find that a satisfactory test run.

It's satisfactory if all you want to know is the efficacy against Covid and any immediate risks. But again, to get long term effects we have to wait, and it's not obvious how one would even attain such data reliably so it may just be speculative anyway.

Also, can people stop using FDA as some sort of universal standard. Just like your so-called World Series it doesn't mean all that much to the rest of us.

 

[smf]

we don't Definitely dont know the long term effect of the COVID Virus have on our systems

Or the effect of food, drink, computer use, etc.

In 50 years time we will probably know why people get delusional when looking at anti vax/5g etc stuff on the internet and start believing crazy things like becoming magnetic.

So many people have been vaccinated now that if it does cause long term problems, they will be long term problems that governments will be motivated to solve. While they are no longer motivated to find alternate types of cure for covid.

If it turns out that everyone who has been jabbed is doomed, then I'm not sure I'd want to stick around with all the people who don't want to be vaccinated either.

In the meantime, not dying from covid is pretty good.

 

[djpannda]

no seeable long term side effects in testing..period

 

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[Deleted member 568587]

What would you do if you found out for a fact that the conspiracy theorists were right and you were being lied to?

A. Re-evaluate your entire life
B. Start doing more research in an open minded way from both sides, even if it's just to satisfy your mind that the conspiracy theorists are still wrong
C. Stay in denial and blame the other party?
D. Shit your pants

 

[SyphenFreht]

Sounds to me like they're trying to prioritize who gets the vaccinations, probably because we still don't have an overwhelming backup of said vaccinations. Or maybe the vaccinating needs to be administered in a specific way, since we have different strains against a backdrop of a myriad of citizens who are some combination of unvaccinated, vaccinated, awaiting a booster, carrier of the Delta variant...

More than likely they're trying to get the virus under control with our own citizens first, rather than just vaccinating everyone left and right and having so much chaos and discord, especially since immigrants are still somewhat of a fight risk (in general) considering they most likely have no concrete place of residence.

She might not have answered the question, one she might not have been prepared for, so all hate on her for that is (I guess) adequately deserved, but her lack of answer does not discredit the validity of vaccinations thus far.

I'm kind of glad this covid has caused such a divide that it has. Some of these people really need to be weeded out.