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So uhh "3.horrible gullible people who are susceptible to right wing propaganda" That seems pretty biased af not calling out the opposite side of the dice there. I'd argue heavily against your last point of this just being a gaming website. Reason being Hillary Clinton largest referrals to their campaign was neogaf. We aren't neogaf, but it shows gaming sites can be biased wouldn't you say?

90% of all news is left wing. and because of it source credibility will always be scrutinized much heavier to republicans. So your point of being against right wing propagandists doesn't make sense when it's much more likely to be left propaganda. If I'm interested in the media I go deep diving, not because I'm scrapping for a narrative, but that the 1st pages of google, the 1st pages of youtube they are the same company I can use different search engines and get vastly different answers about incidents where things are intentionally left out that'd change the story in its entirety and the news ends up gaslighting the stories to push what is propaganda/ biased journalism.
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These guys care so much. I'm sure all of them will be ok with us taking in refugees.

What does taking refugees has to do with this conversation? No one is talking about taking in refugees. If Biden did his work correctly we wouldn't be taking refugees on first place, so who are you kidding? The refugee crisis is on the incompetent administration of Biden. Still deflecting many questions as usual. I've noticed that you lot has a habit to insert unrelated topics that none is talking about ( Look a few post back about talking how "Good" the extremist are, no one said that)

But how things would be if you were one of those refugees, your country gets tonked and botched by a government with no plan, nothing and then you hear in your face no we dont want you, go back. You're lucky that you have the luxury that you have now while those people are doing everything they can to get away from the mess created by your loving ice cream eating president.

Again, no one is talking about refugees. If you dont have any clue about the situation, go asap to Kabul and see what the US have done.

As i said, Biden needs to fire all the morons that advised him, start cleaning House and be a leader that helps the people not abandoning them. We have 3 years to go, he needs to man up otherwise the US will be a puppet play ground and the big countries like China will do anything they want, creating another mess.
 
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What does taking refugees has to do with this conversation? No one is talking about taking in refugees. If Biden did his work correctly we wouldn't be taking refugees on first place, so who are you kidding? The refugee crisis is on the incompetent administration of Biden. Still deflecting many questions as usual. I've noticed that you lot has a habit to insert unrelated topics that none is talking about ( Look a few post back about talking how "Good" the extremist are, no one said that)

But how things would be if you were one of those refugees, your country gets tonked and botched by a government with no plan, nothing and then you hear in your face no we dont want you, go back. You're lucky that you have the luxury that you have now while those people are doing everything they can to get away from the mess created by your loving ice cream eating president.

Again, no one is talking about refugees. If you dont have any clue about the situation, go asap to Kabul and see what the US have done.

As i said, Biden needs to fire all the morons that advised him, start cleaning House and be a leader that helps the people not abandoning them. We have 3 years to go, he needs to man up otherwise the US will be a puppet play ground and the big countries like China will do anything they want, creating another mess.

Waitwaitwait... are you actually pushing for some measure of animosity to China in the middle of all this? And how does a president whose only spent less than a full year in office own fixing a problem two two-term republican presidents introduced us to and perpetuated?

My spouse and I both served since this whole mess began, a mess that never had any sensible way out, and we've had friends and family traumatized and killed in the line of duty. Nobody wanted to die occupying a country that never wanted us there to begin with, and there was no clear path to stabilization in the region, so unless you want to enlist and rally the drums of war from on the front lines and prove you're not just virtue signaling, I cordially invite you to eat your foot in the corner. Maybe take Jimbo's hand out of your rectum too, you're making Val jealous.

Also, given Trump's obesity, I'm pretty sure he eats more ice cream than Biden.
 

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I'm not sure how taking refugee's comes into this, because I don't care about what happens to the middle east, nor do I want it's cowardice populace who didn't want to fight but rather flee to another country and bring their shit with them over here.
 

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Waitwaitwait... are you actually pushing for some measure of animosity to China in the middle of all this? And how does a president whose only spent less than a full year in office own fixing a problem two two-term republican presidents introduced us to and perpetuated?

My spouse and I both served since this whole mess began, a mess that never had any sensible way out, and we've had friends and family traumatized and killed in the line of duty. Nobody wanted to die occupying a country that never wanted us there to begin with, and there was no clear path to stabilization in the region, so unless you want to enlist and rally the drums of war from on the front lines and prove you're not just virtue signaling, I cordially invite you to eat your foot in the corner. Maybe take Jimbo's hand out of your rectum too, you're making Val jealous.

Also, given Trump's obesity, I'm pretty sure he eats more ice cream than Biden.

Classic answer, i knew one of you lot would react exactly like this, go figure.

You lot are ignoring and dodging many replies and picking out what "Interest" you all.

Trump had a withdrawal date, May 2021, for an unknown reason Biden pushed that all to September 2021. Even after a few months has passed since May, Biden waited until the very last minute to withdraw, leaving citizens in harms way to potential harm.

Secondly, if Biden just followed through the plan of instead deflecting it to proof a point that he ignored Trump he wouldn't defnitely be in the mess that he is in now. He failed miserably. He had months to do things in a good swiftly way.

Respect to you and your spouse for serving, thank you kindly both.

But at the end of the day its Biden that made the decision, he solely decided to do how it happened and he is to blame for it.

Can you tell me where Kamala Harris is? She is gone awol and she is doing a terrible job with the whole Southern borders.

You can point everything what you want, Biden botched it.

Its funny that you cant even answer why Biden rejected every Trump policies yet he kept going on with Trumps plan to withdraw.

Im telling you, China is watching, 100% and those big countries are losing the respect they had for the US. How can Biden even defend Taiwan when he botched it hard and failed the Afghan people?

All he had to do was remove its citizens, get out all the weapons that are now in the hands of those extremist, destroy the embassy and bring all the soldiers home. He had plenty of time to do it. That is why i say it again, he needs to fire the incompetent advisors, clean the whole house.
 
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What does taking refugees has to do with this conversation? No one is talking about taking in refugees. If Biden did his work correctly we wouldn't be taking refugees on first place, so who are you kidding?
Just wondering if people are being consistent, with how much they actually care. As someone pointed out, the contempt seems to be missing when talking about Trump's deal with the Taliban. As for doing things correctly, we had 20 years to do so, when we shouldn't have been there in the first place.
 
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Just wondering if people are being consistent, with how much they actually care. As someone pointed out, the contempt seems to be missing when talking about Trump's deal with the Taliban. As for doing things correctly, we had 20 years to do so, when we shouldn't have been there in the first place.

We care less than the other 1000 countries that don't care and wont be taking them either, Lecture Canadians.


Just remember this next time a progressive wants to lecture you on the importance of masking, No price is ever to high for THEIR priorities.

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We care less than the other 1000 countries that don't care and wont be taking them either, Lecture Canadians.
What does taking refugees has to do with this conversation?
I'm not sure how taking refugee's comes into this, because I don't care about what happens to the middle east, nor do I want it's cowardice populace who didn't want to fight but rather flee to another country and bring their shit with them over here.
Lol lol guess that talking point advances quicker than thought.. so your arugement is that “look at Afghanistan, Biden is so Bad, he abandoned them and now he’s allowing equipment and the people to get captured/killed.. but we should only get back the equipment.. fuck those people that we pretend to care about ( that was for show, we really don’t care, we just wanted to make Biden look bad)”
Wow you guys really are 1-2-3s, as you care bout a m16 rifles more then your fellow man . WWJD
 
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...thats what developing human assets on the ground is for?! Like any proper intelligence agency does?! Y'know, like they done during WWII, the Cold War etc? Though theyve been over dependent on ELINT for waaaay too long and its caught them out again.

The problem with intelligence gathering is you only know you haven't done it well enough when it all goes wrong.

It's never perfect. There is the old story of the terrorist cell that turned out was run entirely by agents who were gathering evidence on all the other agents, believing them to be terrorists.

Just remember this next time a progressive wants to lecture you on the importance of masking, No price is ever to high for THEIR priorities.

You're so salty. Wearing a mask is still important, but escaping with your life is also important.

You really should start making reasoned argument instead of all this black and white thinking.

90% of all news is left wing.

90% of news is based on reality. If you find yourself watching news thinking it's biased, then watch a channel that is openly manipulating and lying to forward the right wing agenda. You'll be happier, if less educated about reality.

The refugee crisis is on the incompetent administration of Biden.

No, the crisis was inevitable. You could blame biden for the timing, except he delayed it. Under Trump it would have happened sooner as he set the date to pull out in june.

No matter how much it hurts for you to admit it under Trump, it would have happened the same.

The constant protest that it's biden's fault, is 100% proof of your delusion.

He had months to do things in a good swiftly way.

So he's bad because the troops were removed swiftly, but he would have been good if he'd removed them swiftly.

Magical thinking ftw!

get out all the weapons that are now in the hands of those extremist,

So Joe Biden is bad because he doesn't have a time machine?

The weapons were in use by the Afghanistan army after the us soldiers left, Trump would have left them there too. It was well known that the Taliban would defeat the Afghanistan Army, it is only the speed that nobody predicted.

You need help, not posting your delusions on a gaming forum.

Canada has the room and 1/4 of the population, we've had our share it's wouldn't be fair to hog all of the "enrichment" for ourselves.

Not the right climate though, there is plenty of room to build a mosque in every town in the US.
 
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Ignore Panda posting about the dumbass Fuentes he still mad Biden is failure anyway to actual info now

Weird. The president told me afghans were pitiful cowards who lacked the will to fight.
 

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Ignore Panda posting about the dumbass Fuentes he still mad Biden is failure anyway to actual info now

Weird. The president told me afghans were pitiful cowards who lacked the will to fight.
https://twitter.com/srdmk01/status/1427922780327084035
yes Regular Afghans ... Afghan military Surrendered not the the people..
As New Reports are saying The Taliban were making deals with Providences for Takeovers as soon as they Signed the Agreement with Trump. Meaning Trumps agreement has the opposite effect of "controlling " the Taliban

edit:: did you even look at the Video... its just people on the street celebrating...no Context or distinguished actions .... I think you got Trolled?
the dumbass Fuentes
2nd.. The Fact you were Spam Tweeting Fuentes Garbage in the Past makes you looks like a bigger joke of a tool
 
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The problem with intelligence gathering is you only know you haven't done it well enough when it all goes wrong.

It's never perfect. There is the old story of the terrorist cell that turned out was run entirely by agents who were gathering evidence on all the other agents, believing them to be terrorists.



You're so salty. Wearing a mask is still important, but escaping with your life is also important.

You really should start making reasoned argument instead of all this black and white thinking.



90% of news is based on reality. If you find yourself watching news thinking it's biased, then watch a channel that is openly manipulating and lying to forward the right wing agenda. You'll be happier, if less educated about reality.



No, the crisis was inevitable. You could blame biden for the timing, except he delayed it. Under Trump it would have happened sooner as he set the date to pull out in june.

No matter how much it hurts for you to admit it under Trump, it would have happened the same.

The constant protest that it's biden's fault, is 100% proof of your delusion.



So he's bad because the troops were removed swiftly, but he would have been good if he'd removed them swiftly.

Magical thinking ftw!



So Joe Biden is bad because he doesn't have a time machine?

The weapons were in use by the Afghanistan army after the us soldiers left, Trump would have left them there too. It was well known that the Taliban would defeat the Afghanistan Army, it is only the speed that nobody predicted.

You need help, not posting your delusions on a gaming forum.



Not the right climate though, there is plenty of room to build a mosque in every town in the US.

Excuses and more excuses, how bad can you defend a man who made a colossal failure to leave Afghanistan? He was looking for credit, to show the world that he could do it BETTER than Trump and his plan blowed up his nose, it failed.

Like Biden you lot still deflect the incompetency. There was no time machine needed, he didn't need to wait so long close to September to make him look good for the 20th anniversary of the attacks in New York.

And you know what is so sad? The extremist closed the airport in Kabul with a lot of westerners in it. The moment a video of a westerner appears being killed we will be back to 2001, more troops will be going back and we will have another war that in the first place could've been prevented if Sleepy Joe didn't botched things up.

Again i repeat, he need to take responsibility, to admit he was wrong and look for a solution to this. The clock is ticking for a lot of people trapped there.

Trump DEFNITELY wouldn't NOT left the weapons there! Since it was in his initial withdrawal plan to get out all the weapons and machinery, is that so hard to understand? After May 2021 Biden had 2 and half month to LEAVE yet he waited almost close to September.

You can say but yeah 20 years, there was a good plan, the citizens could've been evacuated, weapons out and soldiers out. The US would have a very different image than it has now.

Its funny you are telling me to get help yet you are defending a man who left its people to die, oh the irony. You're lucky that you don't have any family member there, the desesperation and horror of so many young girls.

Still no answer about Kamala Harris. Why is your president avoiding questions? They are getting grilled everywhere for a good reason.

Lets see what you will say when China close in onto Taiwan, another upcoming mess.


"So he's bad because the troops were removed swiftly, but he would have been good if he'd removed them swiftly"

You and the other lot must be really joking, really i cant just say how pointless that statement is. Isn't that the whole why the world is grilling Bidens administration, that he would be not in this cluster mess if he did the withdrawal in a good way? Cant tell if you and the other poster are taking this seriously.

You are commenting: no matter what, it would happened under Trump. NO it wouldn't! The extremist feared him, they would've NEVER done what they did if he was in charge.

4 years went by and no one single extremist that tried to do something, that says a lot. No single soldier died there the moment he started look for a solution to get out, NOT a single one!

The USA is the laughing stock of the world, China is mocking the US. How much you try to paint Biden good the point stands that he made a colossal mistake.

Trump DID have a talk with one of those morons extremist leaders and said if you touch one of our own i will be coming after you. They knew not to mess with him.

How hard you want it to accept it, Biden administration is weak and the whole world knows it.

Why did it work for Trump 4 years? Now you are getting more immigrants from the Southern borders being taken to different cities in the US. A flight full with immigrants has landen yesterday night in NY, and there will me more coming. THAT wouldn't have happened with Trump!

And to add to it, people from the other side of the border are shooting at the borders patrol. Kamala was suppossed to find a way to solve this, well not going good at all.

Under Trump, gas was 1,87 and now its ABOVE 5 dollars.

Trump gave the order to take out Soleimani, what would've stopped him to bomb the extremist? Nothing. They knew he was someone not to play with.

What is Biden doing? Hiding to avoid questions. He needs to come up with a plan or the extremist will start killing westerners, that will be really really bad.
 
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Excuses and more excuses, how bad can you defend a man who made a colossal failure to leave Afghanistan? He was looking for credit, to show the world that he could do it BETTER than Trump and his plan blowed up his nose, it failed.

Like Biden you lot still deflect the incompetency. There was no time machine needed, he didn't need to wait so long close to September to make him look good for the 20th anniversary of the attacks in New York.

And you know what is so sad? The extremist closed the airport in Kabul with a lot of westerners in it. The moment a video of a westerner appears being killed we will be back to 2001, more troops will be going back and we will have another war that in the first place could've been prevented if Sleepy Joe didn't botched things up.

Again i repeat, he need to take responsibility, to admit he was wrong and look for a solution to this. The clock is ticking for a lot of people trapped there.

Trump DEFNITELY wouldn't NOT left the weapons there! Since it was in his initial withdrawal plan to get out all the weapons and machinery, is that so hard to understand? After May 2021 Biden had 2 and half month to LEAVE yet he waited almost close to September.

You can say but yeah 20 years, there was a good plan, the citizens could've been evacuated, weapons out and soldiers out. The US would have a very different image than it has now.

Its funny you are telling me to get help yet you are defending a man who left its people to die, oh the irony. You're lucky that you don't have any family member there, the desesperation and horror of so many young girls.

Still no answer about Kamala Harris. Why is your president avoiding questions? They are getting grilled everywhere for a good reason.

Lets see what you will say when China close in onto Taiwan, another upcoming mess.


"So he's bad because the troops were removed swiftly, but he would have been good if he'd removed them swiftly"

You and the other lot must be really joking, really i cant just say how pointless that statement is. Isn't that the whole why the world is grilling Bidens administration, that he would be not in this cluster mess if he did the withdrawal in a good way? Cant tell if you and the other poster are taking this seriously.

You are commenting: no matter what, it would happened under Trump. NO it wouldn't! The extremist feared him, they would've NEVER done what they did if he was in charge.

4 years went by and no one single extremist that tried to do something, that says a lot. No single soldier died there the moment he started look for a solution to get out, NOT a single one!

The USA is the laughing stock of the world, China is mocking the US. How much you try to paint Biden good the point stands that he made a colossal mistake.

Trump DID have a talk with one of those morons extremist leaders and said if you touch one of our own i will be coming after you. They knew not to mess with him.

How hard you want it to accept it, Biden administration is weak and the whole world knows it.

Why did it work for Trump 4 years? Now you are getting more immigrants from the Southern borders being taken to different cities in the US. A flight full with immigrants has landen yesterday night in NY, and there will me more coming. THAT wouldn't have happened with Trump!

And to add to it, people from the other side of the border are shooting at the borders patrol. Kamala was suppossed to find a way to solve this, well not going good at all.

Under Trump, gas was 1,87 and now its ABOVE 5 dollars.

Trump gave the order to take out Soleimani, what would've stopped him to bomb the extremist? Nothing. They knew he was someone not to play with.

What is Biden doing? Hiding to avoid questions. He needs to come up with a plan or the extremist will start killing westerners, that will be really really bad.
I guess you don't follow rules
If you would stop distracting/derailing from the Biden administrations humanitarian disaster that would be great, thanks.
 
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Lol lol guess that talking point advances quicker than thought.. so your arugement is that “look at Afghanistan, Biden is so Bad, he abandoned them and now he’s allowing equipment and the people to get captured/killed.. but we should only get back the equipment.. fuck those people that we pretend to care about ( that was for show, we really don’t care, we just wanted to make Biden look bad)”
Wow you guys really are 1-2-3s, as you care bout a m16 rifles more then your fellow man . WWJD
Let me do a Lacius format reply quick:
1. Like it's pointed out before, Biden himself said the sitting president should take responsibility for any crisis that happens during his term, so I'm just applying his own rhetoric on him.
2. We should've gotten our own damn equipment long before actually pulling out so the bad guys wouldn't take it and, you know, take over a damn nation.
3. I never said that *I* cared about the people over there. What's happening over there is bad, but we shouldn't have even been there in the first place, and if we had to go there, it should've been only for a year or two to just to get Osama Bin Laden and destroy the Taliban for starting all this shit, 9/11, instead of dicking around for 20 years, doing next to nothing. And they never wanted to learn how to defend their own country, but they let the Taliban take over, then all the men want to flee, leaving behind all the women and children, and want to come here. Like, why the fuck should we take these type of people? Let your country get over run then, well, run? As well as abandoning your families, your wives (because most of them likely have multiple) and your kids? Over there I guess the saying, instead of "Women and children first", is, "Men first, women and children can go fuck themselves."
 
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I guess you don't follow rules

And that proved point number 2 in my messages. You lot pick what its incovenient for your awesome replies and deflect most of the portion of the replies.

But ok surely. I do believe that this will not be Bidens only failure. Time will tell.
 

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The Taliban is all over social media eating ice cream, riding go karts, and throwing dance parties while the President hides away. Sort of surreal really.
 
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Welps, how things are going im wondering if we ever will reach those 3 years without any more casualties.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Taiwan-force-Biden-abandoned-Afghanistan.html

Bidens Afghanistan's action will affect mostly the citizens. If China does invade Taiwan nothing will happen, US will do nothing. China sees this a big opportunity.

Im afraid what happened in Afghanistan will open Pandora's box and it will be like domino stones, one after one we will be falling.
 
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