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I'm not surprised, a lot of people tuned into Trump's speeches to hate-watch or because they were expecting a trainwreck. Both those audiences are gone, so the only people tuning into Biden are heavily politically engaged (C-SPAN viewers), or people looking for a sleep aid. People voted to make politics boring again, and that's precisely what they got.
Biden can't open his mouth without a gaffe falling out of it, his speeches can be called many things, but they're definitely not boring. They're certainly good meme material, if nothing else.
 
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Biden can't open his mouth without a gaffe falling out of it, his speeches can be called many things, but they're definitely not boring.
From the clips I saw, Biden's speech was supremely boring. He stumbled over the words at the beginning of sentences a few times, that's about it. You can't rely on him to go way off-script like you could with Trump, and he can't hit the high notes of speeches like Obama and other past presidents could.
 
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Fair, provided we agree that doing so is a perversion of the system and that the Supreme Court was never intended to be a replacement for the legislature when the party in power fails to push their agenda effectively.
We are in agreement that Congress passes bills and presidents signs them, and that's where new laws should come from. However, if the Supreme Court finds something unconstitutional, for example, and that has a significant effect on the law, that should also happen if the thing was actually unconstitutional. I think you would agree.

Pressing X.
I have been shouting from the metaphorical mountaintops that we should end the filibuster and Electoral College, even when members of the Democratic Party benefited from the filibuster and/or Electoral College. You can disagree with me, but I'm going to be consistent. If eliminating the filibuster, Electoral College, unrepresentative Senate, gerrymandering, etc. benefited Republicans, I would still say we should do it.

The filibuster prevents legislation that's only popular with one side of the aisle to pass and forces both parties to reach compromises. Congress wasn't created to rapidly pass new laws - the opposite is true, the hurdles are there on purpose and are supposed to stop Congress from passing legislation that does not have broad appeal.
The filibuster prevents legislation that's broadly popular, and even has 50-59% support, from passing. It allows from a minority of just above 40% the ability to block any legislation, and it's anti-democratic. The history of the filibuster is also embarrassing. It was accidentally created from an oversight because a Senate rule was eliminated without being replaced, and it was made what is mostly is today because Senators wanted to block anti-lynching bills and the removal of Jim Crow laws.

For someone who likes the Constitution and balance of powers so much, you seem to be ignoring the original intent by the founders for the Senate to be a majority body. Sounds like an ex post facto rationalization to me.

As for your point about the filibuster leading to more compromises, that's demonstrably untrue. It's a tool for the minority to use to block legislation they don't like automatically without having to participate in the legislative process. Without the filibuster, the two parties would actually have to work together to come up with compromise bills. If the majority party didn't do that, they would have to deal with the electoral consequences of passing a bill without support from the other party. If the minority party didn't do that, the bill they didn't like would be passed without them having any say. And, when the majority margin is thin (like 50/50), one or two Senators could cross over to the other side, leading to compromise. If a moderate member of the majority party had concerns with a bill, they could cross over and require the majority party to compromise. If a moderate member of the minority party offered support for a bill with changes, those concessions might be met if it meant bipartisan support.

In summary, the filibuster is undemocratic, and it doesn't accomplish what you think it does.

I cannot be called a bad guy when my team's name is The Good Guys™.
That's not at all applicable. Democracy is the antithesis of a dictatorship, by definition.

As a side note, the opposite is true - the Democratic party is the ruling party, the Republicans are the opposition. What you have a problem with is that the opposition has teeth to bite back with, you'd prefer if the Democrats were in Congress in numbers required to pass legislation completely unopposed. If that is not your intention, it is in effect what you're advocating for.
I referencing the broad electoral advantages the Republican Party arbitrarily has. It's not difficult to imagine the scenario I laid out with the Republican Party as the ruling party and the Democratic Party as the minority opposition party, despite the Democratic Party being much more popular. The anti-democratic system needs to be changed.

Scalia is dead and irrelevant to this conversation.
Scalia is completely relevant to the point that was made. I'm sorry he's an inconvenient stain on history for you, but he is a really good example of conservative legislation from the bench.

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Biden can't open his mouth without a gaffe falling out of it, his speeches can be called many things, but they're definitely not boring. They're certainly good meme material, if nothing else.
Biden is boring, which is a good thing. The former president is the one who couldn't open his mouth without some insane nonsense and/or utter lie coming out.

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Lol. The argument is "it's not fascism if we are forcing people to do the right thing".
I never came close to making that argument.

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the Supreme court is not only for dems to put people
Only one person said that members of a particular party weren't allowed to nominate people to the Supreme Court, and that person was Mitch McConnell, a Republican.
 
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We are in agreement that Congress passes bills and presidents signs them, and that's where new laws should come from. However, if the Supreme Court finds something unconstitutional, for example, and that has a significant effect on the law, that should also happen if the thing was actually unconstitutional. I think you would agree.
That depends on your definition of what is and is not constitutional. I feel we might have a different opinion on the matter, but in principle, sure.
I have been shouting from the metaphorical mountaintops that we should end the filibuster and Electoral College, even when members of the Democratic Party benefited from the filibuster and/or Electoral College. You can disagree with me, but I'm going to be consistent. If eliminating the filibuster, Electoral College, unrepresentative Senate, gerrymandering, etc. benefited Republicans, I would still say we should do it.
Good for you. Consistency is good, even if it's consistency in being wrong about the institutions of the Republic.
The filibuster prevents legislation that's broadly popular, and even has 50-59% support, from passing. It allows from a minority of just above 40% the ability to block any legislation, and it's anti-democratic. The history of the filibuster is also embarrassing. It was accidentally created from an oversight because a Senate rule was eliminated without being replaced, and it was made what is mostly is today because Senators wanted to block anti-lynching bills and the removal of Jim Crow laws.

For someone who likes the Constitution and balance of powers so much, you seem to be ignoring the original intent by the founders for the Senate to be a majority body. Sounds like an ex post facto rationalization to me.

As for your point about the filibuster leading to more compromises, that's demonstrably untrue. It's a tool for the minority to use to block legislation they don't like automatically without having to participate in the legislative process. Without the filibuster, the two parties would actually have to work together to come up with compromise bills. If the majority party didn't do that, they would have to deal with the electoral consequences of passing a bill without support from the other party. If the minority party didn't do that, the bill they didn't like would be passed without them having any say. And, when the majority margin is thin (like 50/50), one or two Senators could cross over to the other side, leading to compromise. If a moderate member of the majority party had concerns with a bill, they could cross over and require the majority party to compromise. If a moderate member of the minority party offered support for a bill with changes, those concessions might be met if it meant bipartisan support.

In summary, the filibuster is undemocratic, and it doesn't accomplish what you think it does.
50-59% is not broad support. 3/4ths is unquestionably broad support. When we're talking about legislation that changes the very mechanisms of the Republic, I wouldn't want anything less, but I'll shake hands on 60-69%. 69 seems like a very attractive number, I like that.
That's not at all applicable. Democracy is the antithesis of a dictatorship, by definition.
Dictatorship of the stupid is still dictatorship. Besides, this wouldn't be the first totalitarian dictatorship that was elected into position of power, nor the first one to have broad support.
I referencing the broad electoral advantages the Republican Party arbitrarily has. It's not difficult to imagine the scenario I laid out with the Republican Party as the ruling party and the Democratic Party as the minority opposition party, despite the Democratic Party being much more popular. The anti-democratic system needs to be changed.
Nah, thanks.
Scalia is completely relevant to the point that was made. I'm sorry he's an inconvenient stain on history for you, but he is a really good example of conservative legislation from the bench.
God bless his soul.
 
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I'm not surprised, a lot of people tuned into Trump's speeches to hate-watch or because they were expecting a trainwreck. Both those audiences are gone, so the only people tuning into Biden are heavily politically engaged (C-SPAN viewers), or people looking for a sleep aid. People voted to make politics boring again, and that's precisely what they got.
To bad you only post personal opinions and not facts. Democrats never state the facts because they are not educated on the subjects. You continue to make baseless claims without backing it up, which is a trend with democrats.
 
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Good for you. Consistency is good, even if it's consistency in being wrong about the institutions of the Republic.
I'm not wrong about what is and isn't anti-democratic.

50-59% is not broad support. 3/4ths is unquestionably broad support. When we're talking about legislation that changes the very mechanisms of the Republic, I wouldn't want anything less, but I'll shake hands on 60-69%.
That depends on your definition of broad. I consider broad support to be a majority with room to spare. There's also a pretty arbitrary distinction between broad support at 60% but not 59%.

Dictatorship of the stupid is still dictatorship. Besides, this wouldn't be the first totalitarian dictatorship that was elected into position of power, nor the first one to have broad support.
God bless his soul.
When a party with minority support can retain power against an opposition party that has majority support, it's a festering ground for corruption and authoritarianism.

god i hope they really are paying you to defend biden lol
It was the former president who had to pay people to publicly support him. You keep drawing attention to this embarrassing fact.

To bad you only post personal opinions and not facts. Democrats never state the facts because they are not educated on the subjects. You continue to make baseless claims without backing it up, which is a trend with democrats.
The Republican Party is the party of 30,000 lies from the former president, "alternative facts," baseless allegations of voter fraud, debunked policies like trickle down economics, global warming denial, COVID-19 denial, anti-vaccination, etc. I could really go on and on.
 
To bad you only post personal opinions and not facts. Democrats never state the facts because they are not educated on the subjects. You continue to make baseless claims without backing it up, which is a trend with democrats.
I never claimed any of that as fact, it's just my analysis of the ratings decline. Unless you work for Nielsen, your analysis isn't gonna be any more accurate than mine or anyone else's.

And you can blow it out your ass with the "holier than thou" routine, Trump set new records for the number of lies told in office. Anybody willing to keep licking the boot of a New York billionaire who tried to stage an insurrection to keep himself in power has piss-poor moral judgement.
 
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Some good News, a water infrastructure bill passed the Senate.
"The only two senators to vote against the bill, the Drinking Water and Wastewater Infrastructure Act, were Republicans Mike Lee of Utah and Ted Cruz of Texas."

Seriously, does anybody like Ted Cruz?
 
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Biden so far
No $15 wage
No $2000 checks, let alone monthly checks
No rent forgiveness
No full student debt cancelation
No Green New Deal
$20 billion increase in military funding
Increased police funding
Bombing Syria
 
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Biden so far
No $15 wage
No $2000 checks, let alone monthly checks
No rent forgiveness
No full student debt cancelation
No Green New Deal
$20 billion increase in military funding
Increased police funding
Bombing Syria
Your checks must have gotten lost in the mail, because I got my $2,000.
 
Biden can't open his mouth without a gaffe falling out of it, his speeches can be called many things, but they're definitely not boring. They're certainly good meme material, if nothing else.

I certainly hope you feel exactly the same about Trumps speeches, because they certainly fit your bill.

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Biden so far
No $15 wage
No $2000 checks, let alone monthly checks
No rent forgiveness
No full student debt cancelation
No Green New Deal
$20 billion increase in military funding
Increased police funding
Bombing Syria

Oh, you mean in a bit over three months in office? Can you compare that to Trumps first 100 days in office and which of his campaign promises he completely fulfilled in the same time frame? Or how about this, come back to this post in 4 years time and then we can talk about pots and kettles and whatnots.

Lol.

Gets money from Trump.

"Thanks Biden."

Says the guy who must actually believe the money people received came from Biden OR Trump. Here's a factoid for ya that you seem to be missing.... it didn't.
 
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Hehe, man these threads continue to be dumpster fires.

From where I'm standing, it seems like there's a lot of good being done so far into the presidency, and I hope the Biden administration can keep up this trend.

If you feel differently, that's totally fine. If the country does totally plunge into the ground and become godless, genderless, and communist, there's probably no better time for it (were already pretty low altitude following COVID), and it'll all be over in 4 years when there's a revolution of the silent majority, amiright? Whiny, spineless dems couldn't handle the crunch anyway.

I think things'll turn out just fine, though.
 
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Says the guy who must actually believe the money people received came from Biden OR Trump. Here's a factoid for ya that you seem to be missing.... it didn't.

Besides the point as you ignore the context of the conversation. Somebody claimed they got $2,000 from Biden. Go ahead and target anybody else who brought that up in the past 50 or so pages.
 
you got the ticket stub for that mate we only got 1400 at best some only got 300.
Lol.

Gets money from Trump.

"Thanks Biden."
The promise from Biden was $2,000, Trump and the Republicans capped it at $600 and sent out those checks, and then Biden and the Democrats sent out $1,400 checks to make up the difference. That's $2,000. That's also not including the multitude of other benefits in the bill, including but not limited to the increase in the child tax credit, etc.

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Besides the point as you ignore the context of the conversation. Somebody claimed they got $2,000 from Biden. Go ahead and target anybody else who brought that up in the past 50 or so pages.
I got $2,000 after a promise was made that I'd receive $2,000.
 
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