Hacking USB Loader GX

[NoobletCheese]

can you post a system check..

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6175).

Region: PAL (original region: AUS)
System Menu 4.3E (v514)

Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: [redacted]
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Australia (65)
Boot2 v4
Found 68 titles.
Found 46 IOS on this console. 18 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 525): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1038): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1293): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1806): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4123): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4123): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5918): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6175): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6943): No Patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS250 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 03/10/2021.

edit: it seems I need to install d2x cIOS on slots 249 and 250?

 

[NoobletCheese]

Can anyone recommend a cheap out of the box HDD that 100% works with this loader (especially for Just Dance 2015 etc) and that is easily available to purchase in the UK? I'm currently using a Bipra 320GB but when playing it will suddenly come up with a screen saying 'reading disc'.

Sing it/just dance/etc. IOS base 57... Most musical games don't work with base56

IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0.

Maybe try telling USB Loader to use IOS 250 just for that game?

 

[cosmicnana]

Hi All - thanks for all the replies and help - really glad I joined the forum. Just to clarify, not sure if I did a typo somewhere, but the drive I've been using is a HDD not an SSD.

I've done a few things since yesterday. I read somewhere that games ripped using the loader are prone to failure so I went to rip JD2014 using Cleanrip instead. Cleanrip threw an error mid way through the rip. I then cleaned the disc and used Cleanrip again, disc ripped fine.

2 things here - is the loader reliable for ripping discs and/or did the dirty disc affect the rip?

I was going to then test the rip but it was format I didn't recognise and 2 files. Gave up with that.

Reformatted the HDD a few times with different methods, settled on Wii Backup Manager using FAT32. Original JD2014 rip failed again but we also tried my GX rip of JD2, seemed to work okay for 45 minutes.

By means of a last test we have reformatted the drive again (WBM FAT32) and I downloaded the JD2014 wbfs file from elsewhere. I've also updated the Wii with ModMii.

We are currently playing that file now, 12 minutes and counting...

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Maybe try telling USB Loader to use IOS 250 just for that game?

I was already doing that, this is (hopefully was) a different issue I believe.


**Update***
Soooo - JD2014 worked fine for over an hour - no issues. Seems that problem is sorted! But alas I think I have a new one.

After JD2014 we left it a while, came back and went to boot a GC game. Loader couldn't find the HDD...

Pulled the USB from the console and reinserted it, drive light came on. Rebooted the loader and games worked fine.

So I guess my next Q is, is this normal? Do all drives do this? I assume its some kind of sleep or spin down? Is this going to happen mid game?

 

[XFlak]

In my experience most drives that come with sleep timers baked in usually come with software than u can use to disable them

 

[cosmicnana]

In my experience most drives that come with sleep timers baked in usually come with software than u can use to disable them

Its a very cheap drive to be fair. Would the WD work without mucking around with it? Or is it even worth getting a USB? I am getting to the point where I just want to play tbh.

 

[Draxikor]

@cosmicnana The WD elements don't have the sleep problem i leave games without playing for more than an hour and return to play with no problems

 

[cosmicnana]

@cosmicnana The WD elements don't have the sleep problem i leave games without playing for more than an hour and return to play with no problems

Perfect! Thanks for that info

 

[ca032769]

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6175).

Region: PAL (original region: AUS)
System Menu 4.3E (v514)

Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: [redacted]
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Australia (65)
Boot2 v4
Found 68 titles.
Found 46 IOS on this console. 18 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 525): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1038): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1293): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1806): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4123): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4123): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5918): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6175): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6943): No Patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS250 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 03/10/2021.

edit: it seems I need to install d2x cIOS on slots 249 and 250?

Correct you need base 56 or 57 (i use 57) in slot 249 and put base 56 in slot 250 and you can also put base 58 in slot 251.

There are differing opinions, but the general rule is:
cIOS249 (base 57 or 56)
cIOS250 (base 56 or 57)
cIOS251 (base 58)

So if you run into a game that does not work on what you have incIOS 249 you can force cIOS 250 to see if it works. Base 58 is only used by a couple games as far as I know.

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Its a very cheap drive to be fair. Would the WD work without mucking around with it? Or is it even worth getting a USB? I am getting to the point where I just want to play tbh.

With either a Western Digital Elements, Passport or P-10 Game Drive that are only powered by the USB cable, I suggest spending the $6 to $8 and also getting a Y-cable to ensure the drive is getting maximum power.

The beauty of the USB powered drives is they'll turn on and off with the Wii, unlike some that are powered by an external power adapter and stay on all the time unless you unplug them.

The drives that have the separate AC power adapter seem to be a crap shoot if they turn off with the Wii. The Western Digital MyBooks do turn off though, I've used them from 1TB up to 10TB and all of mine always turned off. But my go to drives these days are the WD 5TB passport or WD 5TB P-10 Game Drive which are only USB powered.

 

[kingjinxy2]

The beauty of the USB powered drives is they'll turn on and off with the Wii, unlike some that are powered by an external power adapter and stay on all the time unless you unplug them.

Have you or has anyone else managed to find out how a USB HDD can be spun down before shutting off the Wii? Whenever I just shut off the Wii in the middle of a game by holding the Wiimote's power button or tapping the Wii's power button, the hard drive makes a beep that doesn't exactly give me confidence in its lifespan. I can usually wait about 30 seconds on the Wii Menu or slowly disconnect the drive from the USB socket and it won't make that noise, but both of these options are kind of annoying, especially when I consider that I can just shut off the Wii without a problem while using a flash drive.

 

[biggzsizzle]

@kingjinxy2 Nah my man,...
There's no such functionality to be utilized.
This is the very reason why using a portable external (USB powered) drive is so widely encouraged when it comes to the Wii. Independently powered, desktop, traditional external hard drives, or enlocsures made as such are meant to be in a setting where they DON'T have to be powered down ever. ie. plugged into the back of a PC, for instance.
The WiiU lacks the power support the Wii has in this regard. That's why "Y" cables, or as the afore-mentioned independent power supply cables are needed. (honestly, for my WiiU, I use a 256GB SanDisk usb stick drive that doesn't need the additional power, nor does it ever go to "sleep".

 

[ca032769]

Have you or has anyone else managed to find out how a USB HDD can be spun down before shutting off the Wii? Whenever I just shut off the Wii in the middle of a game by holding the Wiimote's power button or tapping the Wii's power button, the hard drive makes a beep that doesn't exactly give me confidence in its lifespan. I can usually wait about 30 seconds on the Wii Menu or slowly disconnect the drive from the USB socket and it won't make that noise, but both of these options are kind of annoying, especially when I consider that I can just shut off the Wii without a problem while using a flash drive.

No, I don't think anyone was ever concerned with shutting the drive down. If I had a drive the kept running I'd just put it on a surge bar and once the Wii is Off flip the surge bar power switch so I wouldn't have to keep unplugging the drive.

@biggzsizzle has given you the correct information. Use a portable drive with a Y-cable and there will be no issue. If you buy one I recommend a Western Digital Elements, Passport or P-10 Game drive. If you want a full size drive the Western Digital MyBooks work great and they do power off on their own once the Wii is turned off. I have used various sizes of MyBook for many many years before converting over to the Passports and P-10 with Y-cables.

If you are not able to purchase a new drive I'd just put the one you have on a surge bar and locate it so you can easily flip the power supply power switch off when you are done using the Wii.

 

[NoobletCheese]

How risky is it installing a forwarder for USB Loader on Wii? I'm trying to work around an issue where the HOME button during Nintendont games returns to Wii Menu instead of Homebrew Channel, even though I've set USB Loader to 'Return to: Homebrew channel' (it works for Wii games but not Nintendont ones).

 

[ber71]

Use the official forwarders from sourceforge https://sourceforge.net/projects/usbloadergx/

 

[johw]

any update for usbloadgx tabmod?

 

[Ashtot]

Wondering if I can get someone to see if they can find probable cause of black screening when loading backup Wii games. USB drive is a SanDisk 32gb (can't find a model name, but it is a 3.0 gen newer model) and it is formatted in fat32.

The weirdest part is that Gamecube games will launch fine, but Wii games black screen. Folders are all labelled correctly.

EDIT: Updated with USB information as I forgot it originally.

Here is my SysCheck:

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6175).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.1U (v449)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 103445137
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Canada (18)
Boot2 v4
Found 72 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 7 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 525): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1038): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1293): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1806): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 3867): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4123): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5406): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5406): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5918): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6175): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.0): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4.0): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, Beer Ticket
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[38] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 03/19/2021.
https://syscheck.rc24.xyz/view.php?id=oPCPrqPS

I appreciate it!

 

[jeannotte]

Wondering if I can get someone to see if they can find probable cause of black screening when loading backup Wii games. Here is my SysCheck:

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6175).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.1U (v449)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 103445137
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Canada (18)
Boot2 v4
Found 72 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 7 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 525): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1031): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1038): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1293): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1806): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 3867): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3606): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4123): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5406): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5406): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5918): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6175): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5661): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.0): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4.0): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, Beer Ticket
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[38] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 03/19/2021.
https://syscheck.rc24.xyz/view.php?id=oPCPrqPS

I appreciate it!

Hello,

what is your USB support ?? , in what format ??

what version of usb loader gx do you have ??

If you have a USB key ==> try the wbfs format.

avoid USB keys (often black screen or does not start

Prefer a fat32 external hard drive, for best results

 

[Ashtot]

Hello,

what is your USB support ?? , in what format ??

what version of usb loader gx do you have ??

If you have a USB key ==> try the wbfs format.

avoid USB keys (often black screen or does not start

Prefer a fat32 external hard drive, for best results

Hi there, thanks so much for responding! I'm using a 32 gb SanDisk USB drive. It's formatted in fat32. I don't have a spare external hdd right now, but I also assumed that could be the issue. The odd part is that Gamecube games are working fine off of the USB drive, whereas Wii games black screen. Do you think if the Gamecube games are working, it could still be a USB drive compatibility issue for the Wii games? Thanks for your time.

 

[jeannotte]

Do you think if the Gamecube games are working, it could still be a USB drive compatibility issue for the Wii games? Thanks for your time.

Yes

 

[Ashtot]

Yes

I will purchase a new external hdd and update when I find out if that works. Thanks for your help!

 

[sonictopfan]

Hey, sorry to pump, Idk if this is still active, I have a question, similar to Nintendont is it possible to emulate other USB controllers to work as classic controllers like the dual shock 4 for example? Since I don’t have a GC USB converter and my sister took my Wii about a year ago (is why I modded the vWii on my WiiU) and while I do have a classic controller it’s not particularly comfortable to hold, plus I always need double AA batteries installed in the wiimote, using a DS4 would be a nice alternative, thanks.