Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Deleted User]

The usual Multinational Contracts have Clauses for Police Record, Adherence to Company Ethics in and out of the Workplace for Management and Culpability if any information written down isn't true.

That covers practically every concern here, and it's standardised in both Western and Eastern iterations I've signed.

 

[Plasmaster09]

To be fair though, this is not a firm belief. In an ideal world there'd be no such thing as a "protected class" and everyone would just focus on fulfilling their contracts to the t, but I have to work within the framework we've got. I can be swayed one way or the other, depending on the circumstances.

Fair point. However, for that to work, said ideal world would also have to be void of any widespread discrimination that would prevent people from getting jobs just because of who they fundamentally are- otherwise it's less "ideal" and more "America with even less restraint".

You cannot expect someone to predict all the fucked up things that conservatives get up to.

I mean who would have asked David Cameron if he ever fucked a pigs head?

And David Cameron is one of the tame ones.

You're implying that only conservatives do "fucked up things". Are we conveniently forgetting about the crazy Bernie Bro who shot up a congressional baseball game? Because that happened, and not so long ago either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

Okay, you're both wrong. On one hand, there are problems on both sides. On the other hand, all the atrocities Trump supporters have committed in recent memory makes the golden mean and balance fallacies shatter like glass because there is simply no way to equate said sides.

 

[smf]

You're implying that only conservatives do "fucked up things".

The US doesn't have left wing politicians like the UK, they have a choice of right and far right. As we're both from the UK and I'm discussing UK conservatives then a US example doesn't seem relevant.

Maybe Conservatives just get caught more.

 

[Foxi4]

Fair point. However, for that to work, said ideal world would also have to be void of any widespread discrimination that would prevent people from getting jobs just because of who they fundamentally are- otherwise it's less "ideal" and more "America with even less restraint".

Okay, you're both wrong. On one hand, there are problems on both sides. On the other hand, all the atrocities Trump supporters have committed in recent memory makes the golden mean and balance fallacies shatter like glass because there is simply no way to equate said sides.

I disagree. American cities, including federal buildings, were burning all summer. Didn't see many MAGA hats there. There's screwed up stuff going on on both sides of the aisle, and both sides should own it. Everybody should take their lumps.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

THANKS TO @smf FOR BRINGING THIS GEM TO MY ATTENTION
JUDGES DO NOT LOOK AT EVIDENCE BEFORE A CASE
Jesus Christ, you could have saved yourself the trouble of being such a laughing-stock by the most small-brain Google search

That´s why I wrote "as far as I know".
The only time I got into legal trouble in my life was a minor case in Germany and it was dismissed despite my guilt.
So yeah, I don´t know these things. Boohoo. Are you in some kind of girls club with smf? Why didn´t he respond himself?

So when the Supreme Court dismissed the case they looked at evidence? (like videos, statistics or witness testimony?)

 

[smf]

I disagree. American cities, including federal buildings, were burning all summer. Didn't see many MAGA hats there. There's screwed up stuff going on on both sides of the aisle, and both sides should own it. Everybody should take their lumps.

I thought black people loved Donald Trump, that is what he's been saying all last year. So why wouldn't there be loads of his supporters at BLM rallies?

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

I thought black people loved Donald Trump, that is what he's been saying all last year. So why wouldn't there be loads of his supporters at BLM rallies?

8% or so voted for Trump. It is a record but still a small amount of African-Americans. Of these 8% even fewer probably agree with BLM. Some of them may own businesses which were attacked at the BLM riots.

 

[smf]

Boohoo. Are you in some kind of girls club with smf? Why didn´t he respond himself?

WTF are you on?

So when the Supreme Court dismissed the case they looked at evidence? (like videos, statistics or witness testimony?)

Well they looked at the case

The US Supreme Court on Friday rejected an unprecedented attempt by the state of Texas to throw out election results in four battleground states that Donald Trump lost, an effort backed by the president and more than 100 other elected Republicans. In a brief statement explaining its decision, the court rejected the suit without a hearing, saying Texas had no standing to challenge the results in other states: “Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognisable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections.”

 

[Foxi4]

The US doesn't have left wing politicians like the UK, they have a choice of right and far right. As we're both from the UK and I'm discussing UK conservatives then a US example doesn't seem relevant.

Maybe Conservatives just get caught more.

I think it's fair considering the UK doesn't have a real right-wing party, the Tories are a joke.

I thought black people loved Donald Trump, that is what he's been saying all last year. So why wouldn't there be loads of his supporters at BLM rallies?

Maybe it has less to do with the skin colour and more to do with the narrative, or the general dislike of the organisation.

 

[Xzi]

There's no denying the Republican party has a serious image problem, and it will only get worse if they try anything at Biden's inauguration. They sold whatever little soul the party had left to a guy who won them a single election, and subsequently lost so many others for them. Gonna be a good while before they can cleanse themselves of Trump's stink entirely, even if they do vote to convict in the Senate (and there's no guarantee of that).

 

[smf]

I think it's fair considering the UK doesn't have a real right-wing party, the Tories are a joke.

There are loads of parties for far right racists, bnp, edl, ukip, whatever farage is calling his party today.

Tories are a joke, but they are a right wing joke (as right wing parties are)

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

WTF are you on?

I never had the urge to send another user to do my bidding. Seems girly to me.

“Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognisable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections.”

Yeah so I was right (at least with regards to the Supreme Court case).

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with regards to left vs right
Depends how you define left and right.
Both American parties are right-wing in the sense that they support military aggression around the world.
Furthermore both reject healthcare for all, as we have just seen. Even AOC and Sanders reject it. It has always just been virtue signaling to get votes. (see "force the vote")

In the UK both Torries and Labor are left-wing with regards to immigration. Didn´t Boris Johnson basically invite millions of Chinese? This would be unheard of the other way around.

 

[Deleted User]

To be fair, the Right Wing played their 4-Dimensional Chess intelligently and understood the synergy that can be had between Corporations and Career Politicians; Head of State is a temporary position in comparison.

They needed to act on the ducks they had lined up before Majority Voice was lost and the best option was celebrity recognition, which actually worked.

Since they're accustomed to Long-Term Games, they probably rationalised that the hit on Public Perception could be resolved with time.

Most that planned this already have their Golden Parachutes and are close to bowing out anyway, so it's the next Generation of Right Wing's mess to clean up, as it were.
But they've gained their bonuses and Right Wing perks for the Party.

Again, some well-played 4-Dimensional Chess on their part.

 

[Xzi]

To be fair, the Right Wing played their 4-Dimensional Chess intelligently and understood the synergy that can be had between Corporations and Career Politicians; Head of State is a temporary position in comparison.

Lmao, good luck convincing anybody that losing the House, the Senate, and the presidency in just four years was the plan all along. The inability to look past the short-term is more like 1D checkers.

 

[White_Raven_X]

And you have zero evidence of Trump losing 60+ cases. Case closed, goober.

A little bit of google search has found the proof that your dumb lazy ass couldnt find!

Lawsuit tracker: Donald Trump’s legal battle runs into repeated dead ends

Link to source:
https://www.ft.com/content/20b114b5-5419-493b-9923-a918a2527931

Here's another site that fact checks:

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...den-right-more-60-trumps-election-lawsuits-l/


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Attached are just a few of those failed Trump cases.

@tabzer so now that you have read all of this info, you cannot be ignorant about these facts! So shut your face about this topic!

 

[Frankfort42]

One group intended to kill (terrorists at the capital. Yes I'll refer to them as terrorists from now on. You don't casually place bombs, and they were looking for the speaker of the house, to either kill her or take hostage. Along with AOC. )
While another group just wants to no longer be shot by cops, or be brutalized.
In other words, false dichotomy.

You believe that the BLM cause is valid and the DC riot cause wasn't. That's an opinion. Yes, it may be shared by many of your peers, but there's half of the country that didn't agree with the BLM bullshit including me. In our eyes both causes were stupid and yes, if you're trying to compare ransacking offices to burning down buildings you're logic is failing you.

so... your defending people at the capital who had intent to kill?
I see
So.... burning down buildings, is somehow worse than, idk. trespassing into the captial, breaking into where the federal government mostly functions, expressly telling others to find AOC, speaker of the house, or saying Mike Pence should die....
that checks out yup I guess burning buildings is now equivalent to murder people in federal power

The "protesters were out to murder" is a false narrative being concocted by the leftist lying media who simply found some posts online to support their lies and went with them. I'm not a mind reader and neither are you so either of us can't say what was motivating most of the rioters, but the DC protests had 100,000+ peaceful people and only a few hundred started to riot. That's the same logic your side uses when comparing peaceful BLM protests to the rioting, looting, arson and murder you side did. So why isn't your same logic applied? Oh yeah, the hypocrite factor and double standards of the left.

There's no hard evidence that anyone who was arrested was trying to kill "people in federal power" as many of them simply ransacked a few offices and in very few cases some property was removed. There's also no difference between members of Congress or your "people in federal power" than any other citizen in the country. Just because they are lawmakers doesn't make them more important than you or me. So yes, arson and grand theft is much worse than ransacking a few offices.

BLM riots have been going on every single week since this summer and I don't see your side condemning them yet when we have one single riot from the Conservative side it's some big fucking deal. I understand that the politicians are all butthurt because they ran like little bitches as the rioting personally came to their front door, but that doesn't make ransacking a few offices outweigh months of arson, looting, murdering all from your side.

So if your eyes BLM riots were justified because you agreed with the cause and the DC riot wasn't because you didn't agree with it. That's simply your opinion. Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but there's 70 some million people that didn't agree the BLM protests and riots were justified, especially considering the motivating factor was the death of a criminal who overdosed on drugs while being restrained for resisting arrest.

 

[Deleted User]

Lmao, good luck convincing anybody that losing the House, the Senate, and the presidency in just four years was the plan all along. The inability to look past the short-term is more like 1D checkers.

As you point out - LMAO if you think the goal was to convince anybody.

The people who planned this planned it for themselves, and it's sad that you think any of the common-folk were to benefit.
Almost as sad as those extremists that believed anyone had their interest in mind or that their idol wasn't a burner figure.

But again, 4-Dimensional Chess isn't meant to be understood by the majority, so your position is understandable.

 

[Lumstar]

As you point out - LMAO if you think the goal was to convince anybody.

The people who planned this planned it for themselves, and it's sad that you think any of the common-folk were to benefit.
Almost as sad as those extremists that believed anyone had their interest in mind or that their idol wasn't a burner figure.

But again, 4-Dimensional Chess isn't meant to be understood by the majority, so your position is understandable.

Chipping away at trust in the system is the long term goal for those extremists sincerely looking to seize power.

 

[Xzi]

The people who planned this planned it for themselves, and it's sad that you think any of the common-folk were to benefit.

We are talking about people that were born rich in the US, so in that sense you're correct, they'll always be ahead of the game no matter which direction their life takes. But do they ultimately "benefit" from losing more than they do from winning and retaining control over one or several federal branches of government? No, that's stupid. The only thing better than being rich is being rich AND powerful.

 

[Deleted User]

We are talking about people that were born rich in the US, so in that sense you're correct

... To be precise, I am talking about Right-Wing Career Politicians, who understand the cyclical nature of Politics and what they can and cannot achieve in their lifetime, so I'll leave the rest up to you to understand.

Chipping away at trust in the system is the long term goal for those extremists sincerely looking to seize power.

Between what they perceive to be their goal and what is attainable is a mystery; one thing is for sure, this is not the last time they'll be unwitting participants in Politics, as much as they feel they understand the lay of the land.