Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Plasmaster09]

"Conspirational claims". Lol. Claims of conspiracy are automatically debunked because there are no such thing as conspiracies?

The claims are absurd in nature, unproven and you still refuse to provide any form of even SLIGHTLY trustworthy evidence to them. So yeah, they're conspiracy theories.

 

[Darth Meteos]

And, so, the logic goes that Biden has been blocking investigation. See?

okay, show me the proof of that
you just made the claim, prove it

 

[Deleted User]

I make it a point not to meet my extended family, so I've never had those awkward and political Thanksgiving Dinners.

I guess this is my time to catch up on the action.
Who knows, if this Thread holds up until Thanksgiving 2021, I can even read this whilst having some turkey.

 

[Plasmaster09]

And, so, the logic goes that Biden has been blocking investigation. See?

...No??? The investigations happened, and the results were that there was no widespread election fraud. This is why Trump's team lost all those cases. Well, that and the fact that they refused to provide any actual evidence- just as you do now.

 

[Lacius]

"Conspirational claims". Lol. Claims of conspiracy are automatically debunked because there are no such thing as conspiracies?

Your claims of widespread voter fraud and Seth Rich's murder and involvement in the 2016 election meddling are textbook examples of conspiracy theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

 

[tabzer]

i can use the fact there was quite a lot of security surrounding the election as backup to my assertion that the election is legitimate, but you're specifically asking me to prove a negative

The election was "secured". But how well do you know these people? Do you believe in them?

 

[Darth Meteos]

I make it a point not to meet my extended family, so I've never had those awkward and political Thanksgiving Dinners.

I guess this is my time to catch up on the action.
Who knows, if this Thread holds up until Thanksgiving 2021, I can even read this whilst having some turkey.

this thread won't die unless mods lock it
you'll be here at the next election if they don't get sick of it

The election was "secured". But how well do you know these people? Do you believe in them?

i have no reason not to, since no proof has been provided to the contrary

 

[tabzer]

Your claims of widespread voter fraud and Seth Rich's murder and involvement in the 2016 election meddling are textbook examples of conspiracy theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

Conspiracy theories are ok. Everyone knows conspiracies exist. The theory is how they work until they reach a point of exposure.

 

[Plasmaster09]

The election was "secured". But how well do you know these people? Do you believe in them?

dude I might not personally know anyone working at NASA but I still believe they made the fucking rockets and sent a fucking man to the fucking moon
...oh wait you might be a moon landing denier too, that might not work

 

[tabzer]

this thread won't die unless mods lock it
you'll be here at the next election if they don't get sick of it


i have no reason not to, since no proof has been provided to the contrary

You have no proof that i am deceiving you.

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dude I might not personally know anyone working at NASA but I still believe they made the fucking rockets and sent a fucking man to the fucking moon
...oh wait you might be a moon landing denier too, that might not work

Idk. It's interesting nonetheless.

 

[Plasmaster09]

You have no proof that i am deceiving you.

You have absolutely no proof.
You are making a claim.
It is YOUR job to prove it.
The burden of proof lies on YOU.
If I just decide to say "Tabzer's a pedophile", it's not your job to disprove it. It's my job to back it up with evidence. Using your fundamentally flawed 'understanding' of the burden of proof, it would be your job to disprove a pedophilia accusation it took one second and zero points of evidence for me to come up with.

 

[Darth Meteos]

Conspiracy theories are ok. Everyone knows conspiracies exist. The theory is how they work until they reach a point of exposure.

the difference between the panama papers and me claiming that "lincoln's assassination was faked and he became the permanent ruler of america in the cosmos" is simply a matter of proof
provide the proof and we're into it

You have no proof that i am deceiving you.

Sure I do. You haven't made a single accurate claim on this topic. This leads me to believe you are attempting to deceive me.

 

[smf]

American Thinker Issues Groveling Apology to Dominion Voting Systems For ‘Completely False’

In case they turn round later and say they only said that to avoid going to court, then dominion should still take them to court.

That's not what they were trying to do though? They were trying to stop votes sent after the deadline, not postmarked properly, and not verified or that didn't have a witness inspect them from being counted.

Denying someone a vote because a Republican postal worker purposefully postmarked them incorrectly would be bad.

In one state alone they had a small investigation and found 100,000 people voted twice for example. Genuine fraud and also incompetence.

Who did the investigation? Can you point to evidence of it?

As far as I know judges do not look at evidence before a case. This is done during a case. A court can deny opening a case if it believes it is none of their business (see Supreme Court).

You normally present evidence before the day of the court case, because you have to disclose it to the other side.

It would be entirely possible for the defense attorney to apply to the court before the case is heard to have the case thrown out or delayed, if there was no evidence or it was supplied too late for you to build a defense.

In cases like this where the court needs to make a time sensitive decision, I would expect for an injunction against having the result certified to be requested and that would happen before the case is heard.

 

[Lacius]

Conspiracy theories are ok. Everyone knows conspiracies exist. The theory is how they work until they reach a point of exposure.

Conspiracy theories are not okay. They are the antithesis of skepticism. A person who engages in conspiratorial thinking is a person who does not care about truth.

A conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable. The term has a negative connotation, implying that the appeal to a conspiracy is based on prejudice or insufficient evidence.

Conspiracy theories resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and an absence of evidence for it are re-interpreted as evidence of its truth, whereby the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than something that can be proved or disproved. Research suggests that conspiracist ideation—belief in conspiracy theories—may be psychologically harmful or pathological and that it is correlated with psychological projection, paranoia and Machiavellianism. Psychologists attribute finding a conspiracy where there is none to a mental phenomenon called illusory pattern perception.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

If you don't have the wherewithal to take an honest and objective look at your thought processes, please seek professional help.

 

[tabzer]

You have absolutely no proof.
You are making a claim.
It is YOUR job to prove it.
The burden of proof lies on YOU.
If I just decide to say "Tabzer's a pedophile", it's not your job to disprove it. It's my job to back it up with evidence. Using your fundamentally flawed 'understanding' of the burden of proof, it would be your job to disprove a pedophilia accusation it took one second and zero points of evidence for me to come up with.

I have my wits and the evidence is widely available. I'd call it proof, but many of you would deny the sky being blue if it gave Trump the election. I settle for the term "evidence".

 

[Lacius]

I have my wits and the evidence is widely available. I'd call it proof, but many of you would deny the sky being blue if it gave Trump the election. I settle for the term "evidence".

Please see what I said above. You have no evidence of widespread voter fraud, Seth Rich's involvement in the 2016 election meddling, etc. You're engaging in conspiratorial thinking, and you're accepting claims before they've met their burdens of proof.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I have my wits and the evidence is widely available. I'd call it proof, but many of you would deny the sky being blue if it gave Trump the election. I settle for the term "evidence".

dude, it's still your job to prove it
if it was the sky being blue, you could make a video recording of various parts of the sky and send it as evidence of the sky being blue
if it's so widely available, then fucking prove it to us yourself

 

[Darth Meteos]

As far as I know judges do not look at evidence before a case. This is done during a case. A court can deny opening a case if it believes it is none of their business (see Supreme Court).

THANKS TO @smf FOR BRINGING THIS GEM TO MY ATTENTION
JUDGES DO NOT LOOK AT EVIDENCE BEFORE A CASE
Jesus Christ, you could have saved yourself the trouble of being such a laughing-stock by the most small-brain Google search

I have my wits and the evidence is widely available. I'd call it proof, but many of you would deny the sky being blue if it gave Trump the election. I settle for the term "evidence".

this ain't evidence, mate
come back with evidence

I have my wits and the evidence is widely available. I'd call it proof, but many of you would deny the sky being blue if it gave Trump the election. I settle for the term "evidence".

for five pages people have been going "show proof" and you haven't
i don't know if your wits are something you wanna rely on, mate

 

[tabzer]

dude, it's still your job to prove it
if it was the sky being blue, you could make a video recording of various parts of the sky and send it as evidence of the sky being blue
if it's so widely available, then fucking prove it to us yourself

I can't convince people who are willing to lie to stop lying without having greater leverage. Showing a video of a blue sky, in this context, would yield people saying "that's not blue!". Politics is not about truth. It's about the pursuit of power.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

You have no proof that i am deceiving you.

The entire thread is loaded with you attempting to deceive people. Flat out lies that have been factually debunked by many people, many times over. Yet YOU still have not provided one single concrete shred of factual evidence to your claims, to anyone. You make things up out of thin air. You try to constantly shift the burden of proof. You've been proven a hypocrite. Yes, you are absolutely 100% factually attempting to deceive people. Proof? This thread. Now provide some factual and credible evidence for your own claims. We've all been waiting this entire time. 344 pages, and notta from you. Time to pay up or shut your mouth.